CBS poll, 72% percent of voters expressed doubts about President Joe Biden's mental fitness

[Hanaguma]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

Trump was yet again a serial liar during the so called 'debate' with 30 plus lies / misinformation and so on. It baffles me how anyone can vote for / align themselves with such a person, including the recent disgraceful ruling my the Supreme Court. The end of a once great country, despite some terrible foreign policy decisions such as the Invasion of Iraq and Vietnam, leading the democratic Western world. Let's not forget trump also tried to stab the Kurds in the back  during their outstanding and courageous acts against ISIS. trump will be a disaster of the USA.

 

Trump's debate lies debunked (msn.com)

 

It is a debate. A contact sport. If Trump lies, it is up to Biden to call him out and refute him, not the moderators.  And Biden was incapable. Ironically, it ws Biden who was being childish and infantile, calling names and making personal attacks. And it was Trump who had to ask, "let's not act like children".  

 

Joe is done. 

[ThaiFelix]

10 hours ago, Social Media said:

Overall, 45 percent of Democrats think Biden should step aside

Yes, maybe Groucho Marx is free right now?

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

It is a debate. A contact sport. If Trump lies, it is up to Biden to call him out and refute him, not the moderators.  And Biden was incapable. Ironically, it ws Biden who was being childish and infantile, calling names and making personal attacks. And it was Trump who had to ask, "let's not act like children".  

 

Joe is done. 

Trump has normalised lies. In the past, lies had political consequences. Nixon lied and he was forced to resigned. Bill Clinton lied and he was impeached. Now

lies have to be treated like contact sport. Trump lie and lie and his supporters lapped it up and dared the opposition to call him out. Then they will denied the lies and the circle of denial continue. Like saying carry on with the crimes until you are caught. The damage that Trump do to his country will take years to recover. 

[Hanaguma]

12 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Trump has normalised lies. In the past, lies had political consequences. Nixon lied and he was forced to resigned. Bill Clinton lied and he was impeached. Now

lies have to be treated like contact sport. Trump lie and lie and his supporters lapped it up and dared the opposition to call him out. Then they will denied the lies and the circle of denial continue. Like saying carry on with the crimes until you are caught. The damage that Trump do to his country will take years to recover. 

Clinton wasnt impeached for lying. He was impeached for suborning perjury.

All politicians lie. It is in their nature. Trump is also a fabulist, a world class BS artist. It is part of being from New York.  And ol' Joe wasn't exactly telling the truth either- no American soldiers killed this century, sorry this decade, sorry in my presidency....

 

The point is that Biden was incapable of noticing. He stood with his mouth open and a rictus look, rarely blinking.  The split screen absolutely killed him. 

[thesetat2013]

7 hours ago, susanlea said:

Biden has late stage dementia. No way back

there is still hope for all you Biden fans and he could still win. A Prison sentence for Trump could save the Democrats. Perhaps there is something we do not know yet as to the reason Biden is refusing to back down to allow someone else to run for the Democrats? 

 

[susanlea]

20 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Trump has normalised lies. In the past, lies had political consequences. Nixon lied and he was forced to resigned. Bill Clinton lied and he was impeached. Now

lies have to be treated like contact sport. Trump lie and lie and his supporters lapped it up and dared the opposition to call him out. Then they will denied the lies and the circle of denial continue. Like saying carry on with the crimes until you are caught. The damage that Trump do to his country will take years to recover. 

Trump improved the country. Real wages up, unemployment down. Created more jobs for blacks and hispanics.

 

Biden lies more than anyone.

[earlinclaifornia]

15 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

there is still hope for all you Biden fans and he could still win. A Prison sentence for Trump could save the Democrats. Perhaps there is something we do not know yet as to the reason Biden is refusing to back down to allow someone else to run for the Democrats? 

 

Possibly another reason is Trump is by far the worst possible choice for America

[Hanaguma]

36 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

there is still hope for all you Biden fans and he could still win. A Prison sentence for Trump could save the Democrats. Perhaps there is something we do not know yet as to the reason Biden is refusing to back down to allow someone else to run for the Democrats? 

 

Trump wont spend one night in prison. Even IF the judge sentences him, the sentence will be appealed immediately. There will be a superior court/appeals court judge on standby to stay the sentence pending hearing the appeal. Trump will walk out of the courthouse the same day regardless.

 

Biden isnt backing down, partly out of pride. Partly because his wife loves being First Lady. Partly because there would be chaos if he stepped down- who gets top slot? Kamala? A guaranteed election defeat. Anyone else, especially a white man, and the party will burst into intercine conflict. 

[Eric Loh]

42 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Clinton wasnt impeached for lying. He was impeached for suborning perjury.

All politicians lie. It is in their nature. Trump is also a fabulist, a world class BS artist. It is part of being from New York.  And ol' Joe wasn't exactly telling the truth either- no American soldiers killed this century, sorry this decade, sorry in my presidency....

 

The point is that Biden was incapable of noticing. He stood with his mouth open and a rictus look, rarely blinking.  The split screen absolutely killed him. 

You think most if not all American voters are not familiar with Trump consistent lying and lack of substance? Everything Trump brought up during the debate are no different from his wild, bizarre incoherent rally speeches. Biden not engaging in Trump's lies and allowing him to ramble unhinged and appeared mean will benefit Biden more than Trump. His supporters may be over the moon to see their hero speaking without hinderance and fact checked but he also not gaining anything to expand beyond his base.  

[Hanaguma]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

You think most if not all American voters are not familiar with Trump consistent lying and lack of substance? Everything Trump brought up during the debate are no different from his wild, bizarre incoherent rally speeches. Biden not engaging in Trump's lies and allowing him to ramble unhinged and appeared mean will benefit Biden more than Trump. His supporters may be over the moon to see their hero speaking without hinderance and fact checked but he also not gaining anything to expand beyond his base.  

Who appeared mean? It was Biden who did most of the personal attacks. Trump was remarkably restrained.

 

Biden didnt engage in Trumps lies because he couldnt. He was not capable of thinking quickly or speaking extemporaneously. He was lost in a fog of prepared and canned soundbites. Even then he mixed them up.  Just admit it, Biden performed very poorly and showed a rather shocking deterioration in mental agility and temperament.

[susanlea]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

You think most if not all American voters are not familiar with Trump consistent lying and lack of substance? Everything Trump brought up during the debate are no different from his wild, bizarre incoherent rally speeches. Biden not engaging in Trump's lies and allowing him to ramble unhinged and appeared mean will benefit Biden more than Trump. His supporters may be over the moon to see their hero speaking without hinderance and fact checked but he also not gaining anything to expand beyond his base.  

Yet Trump grew real wages. Fallen under Teleprompter Joe.

[riclag]

5 hours ago, ThaiFelix said:

Yes, maybe Groucho Marx is free right now?

He’s DEAD , a Corpse , lacking  brain waves

 

3 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

there is still hope for all you Biden fans and he could still win. A Prison sentence for Trump could save the Democrats. Perhaps there is something we do not know yet as to the reason Biden is refusing to back down to allow someone else to run for the Democrats? 

 

Well if the cards , letters and small & large donations come in like they did 

with the dem conviction announcement , Trumps  mug shot and all the other dem lawfare ..

And the-undeniable loss of trust   Of dem media  credibility .

 

Game over

 

methinks

Edited July 2 by riclag

[simple1]

5 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

It is a debate. A contact sport. If Trump lies, it is up to Biden to call him out and refute him, not the moderators.  And Biden was incapable. Ironically, it ws Biden who was being childish and infantile, calling names and making personal attacks. And it was Trump who had to ask, "let's not act like children".  

 

Joe is done. 

 

trump continuously acts as a child, never stops, calling people names and ad\busing his power as president by insulting his fellow citizens, including Gold Star family members - just incredible US citizens support him. trump is unfit to be President of the USA as he was proven to be when last elected. Only reason trump is running now is Republicans acted corruptly by failing in their Oath of Duty when trump was impeached.

Edited July 2 by simple1

[Eric Loh]

4 hours ago, susanlea said:

Trump improved the country. Real wages up, unemployment down. Created more jobs for blacks and hispanics.

 

Biden lies more than anyone.

Simpleton reply with no specific timeline on real wage. Economic not your strong suit.
 

Trump mountain of lies well documented. Reason he is the worst President on record. 

[Robert Paulson]

72%?

 

whoever these 28% ar need to be removed from society immediately 

[susanlea]

3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Simpleton reply with no specific timeline on real wage. Economic not your strong suit.
 

Trump mountain of lies well documented. Reason he is the worst President on record. 

Your reply was just abuse. I posted the link previously. Are you not an adult capable of researching economic data yourself? You come across as a sad old biased man who is totally full of Trump hate. I will post again as you lack basic knowledge and googling skills. Personally I think Trump is not very good but the corpse is a joke. 

 

https://therightfacts.org/2024/03/13/real-wages-have-fallen-2-5-under-biden/

[susanlea]

6 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Reason he is the worst President on record. 

One of the best. Low inflation, low unemployment, secure borders. You are just a lefty who loves Biden. You got no economic data to back up your claims. All too easy to rip your nonsense apart.

[Robert Paulson]

It seems like a lot of folks did not even watch the debate. This has little to do with which one lied more and quite a lot to do with one of them obviously being unable to speak or put thoughts together, much less run a country.

 

You guys did watch it, right? Did you see him get his hand held off stage and treated like a 3rd grader by his wife? Not to mention his entire presidency is a documented scam… it’s very possible even probable the hunter Biden laptop story would have swayed the election, and there is actual proof the 50 some odd signatures hand biden played was a known lie they all perpetrated. 

[susanlea]

• U.S. inflation rate for 2022 was 8.00%, a 3.3% increase from 2021.
• U.S. inflation rate for 2021 was 4.70%, a 3.46% increase from 2020.
• U.S. inflation rate for 2020 was 1.23%, a 0.58% decline from 2019.
• U.S. inflation rate for 2019 was 1.81%, a 0.63% decline from 2018.

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/USA/united-states/inflation-rate-cpi

[illisdean]

15 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Trump mountain of lies well documented. Reason he is the worst President on record. 

Sure, worst than Biden despite absolutely crushing Biden in all polling, especially battlegrounds with MI Gov Gretch saying now we can't beat Trump in MI. Ask yourself a really simpleton question: if Trump is so bad why is he humiliating Biden in the polls not to mention the recent beatdown CNN debate. Simple, Biden is mentally retarded and destroying everything good in America. 

Oh, but wait, Spec Counsel R Hur deemed Biden mentally unfit to stand trial for espionage, it's no wonder Biden gets the benefit of his imbecile defense. Perhaps though he get bracelets and stands behind the pipes sometime early next year. Trump can decide how that plays out.

 

In the meantime Dr. jill gets Vogue cover and Biden your savior gets the "Vague" cover, and thats because he is mentally challenged, wouldn't you agree? Ask your US chums if they will vote for a decomposing corrupt mentally challenged moron. 

. 

LOL

 

Vague Biden Simpleton

Edited July 2 by illisdean

[Hanaguma]

20 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

trump continuously acts as a child, never stops, calling people names and ad\busing his power as president by insulting his fellow citizens, including Gold Star family members - just incredible US citizens support him. trump is unfit to be President of the USA as he was proven to be when last elected. Only reason trump is running now is Republicans acted corruptly by failing in their Oath of Duty when trump was impeached.

Again ironically in the debate it was BIDEN who was name calling and being childish, even Trump had to call him on it.  Gold Star families aren't crazy about Biden either, considering he FORGET that they even exist in the debate.

 

For better or worse, the Trump years pre-Covid were pretty good. You can argue about why and all that, but the bottom line is that people will remember them. They will remember when gas was 2 bucks and their mortgage rate was 3%. And that will sink Biden. Because he has nothing to run on that anyone will believe. That is why the Democrats are reverting to their old playbook of "RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA" and "OH OUR DEMOCRACY" and other tired shibboleths. 

 

It won't work.

[Eric Loh]

13 minutes ago, susanlea said:

One of the best. Low inflation, low unemployment, secure borders. You are just a lefty who loves Biden. You got no economic data to back up your claims. All too easy to rip your nonsense apart.

Again simpleton reply. Inflation affected by supply disruption and geopolitical events. No country in the world were spared. Some countries still  trying to recover.  Low employment due to pandemic and borders were not secured during Trump. Biden policies help in the economic recovery savaged by Trump’s mishandling the pandemic. Well documented. You just another Trump’s apologist.  

[susanlea]

11 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Again ironically in the debate it was BIDEN who was name calling and being childish, even Trump had to call him on it.  Gold Star families aren't crazy about Biden either, considering he FORGET that they even exist in the debate.

 

For better or worse, the Trump years pre-Covid were pretty good. You can argue about why and all that, but the bottom line is that people will remember them. They will remember when gas was 2 bucks and their mortgage rate was 3%. And that will sink Biden. Because he has nothing to run on that anyone will believe. That is why the Democrats are reverting to their old playbook of "RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA" and "OH OUR DEMOCRACY" and other tired shibboleths. 

 

It won't work.

Could Biden operate the cash registrar at McDonalds? Could he operate one at a fuel station? No. Why the heck is he president? The most useless leader in the world by a long way.

[susanlea]

4 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Again simpleton reply. Inflation affected by supply disruption and geopolitical events. No country in the world were spared. Some countries still  trying to recover.  Low employment due to pandemic and borders were not secured during Trump. Biden policies help in the economic recovery savaged by Trump’s mishandling the pandemic. Well documented. You just another Trump’s apologist.  

Again a sad reply. You got no links to support your claims. Supply issues finished in 2023. Inflation is still high in 2024. Take about being a simpleton. 

 

More people died with covid under Biden. Now we have an 81yo dementia guy who can't speak without a teleprompter or a weeks coaching. An 81yo simpleton.

 

You really need to try harder as so far you have only shown your lack of economic knowledge.

Edited July 2 by susanlea

[susanlea]

5 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Inflation affected by supply disruption and geopolitical events

Have you no idea about other countries? Inflation is 2% in the UK and 3.4% in the US. 

 

Clearly you have no facts to support your claims.

 

Real wages grew under Trump. Inflation was low. Employment grew before covid. All facts buddy.

 

Please try harder and make a more intelligent response. 

[susanlea]

13 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Low employment due to pandemic and borders were not secured during Trump

Shutting the borders entirely or more early hurts the economy more. Then you would be whining about more job losses. You can't have it both ways. You attack him for low shutdowns then argue he wrecked the economy. Make up your mind which story you are running with.

[thesetat2013]

3 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Biden not engaging in Trump's lies and allowing him to ramble unhinged and appeared mean will benefit Biden more than Trump. His supporters may be over the moon to see their hero speaking without hinderance and fact checked but he also not gaining anything to expand beyond his base.  

You are proof how Biden supporters and staunch Democrats are blinded by what is in their face about their own party members. Biden made some lies also during the debate. . He lost so much from that debate. His supporters finally got to see what the news and others in his office have been hiding. He is too old and feeble minded to continue being president. He gets confused easily and manipulated even easier. The dumbfounded look on his face said it all. His confusing comments and statements made him look even more feeble. 'He surely will and did not benefit more than Trump from this last debate. You need to watch it again and this time open your eyes and actually see him for what he is. 

How can this man even now be running the country? 

[Eric Loh]

3 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Shutting the borders entirely or more early hurts the economy more. Then you would be whining about more job losses. You can't have it both ways. You attack him for low shutdowns then argue he wrecked the economy. Make up your mind which story you are running with.

Still difficult to reconcile the fact that Trump is still the worst president and Biden is ranked above him. 
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/20/presidents-ranking-trump-biden-list

[susanlea]

2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Still difficult to reconcile the fact that Trump is still the worst president and Biden is ranked above him. 
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/20/presidents-ranking-trump-biden-list

By left wing people 5 months ago 

 

(Democrats like you)

Edited July 2 by susanlea

[susanlea]

8 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

You are proof how Biden supporters and staunch Democrats are blinded by what is in their face about their own party members. Biden made some lies also during the debate. . He lost so much from that debate. His supporters finally got to see what the news and others in his office have been hiding. He is too old and feeble minded to continue being president. He gets confused easily and manipulated even easier. The dumbfounded look on his face said it all. His confusing comments and statements made him look even more feeble. 'He surely will and did not benefit more than Trump from this last debate. You need to watch it again and this time open your eyes and actually see him for what he is. 

How can this man even now be running the country? 

Worse than soccer fans. So one eyed. Soccer fans would be more intelligent.