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I knew of a housing association in the UK that was doing similar, housing people of color before white people that needed it more, just to keep up the color 'Diversity'.  

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Although I am an extreme-left liberal and fervently support diversity, I do think that should not be done at the cost of discriminating against anyone based on their race, gender, sexuality, religion, etc. I don't know if this was done in this case, but if it was, it's wrong and should be rectified the best way possible.

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13 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Although I am an extreme-left liberal and fervently support diversity, I do think that should not be done at the cost of discriminating against anyone based on their race, gender, sexuality, religion, etc. I don't know if this was done in this case, but if it was, it's wrong and should be rectified the best way possible.

Yes of course... diversity over meritocracy is your mantra until it is applied to you... then hear the uproar.

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52 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Although I am an extreme-left liberal and fervently support diversity, I do think that should not be done at the cost of discriminating against anyone based on their race, gender, sexuality, religion, etc. I don't know if this was done in this case, but if it was, it's wrong and should be rectified the best way possible.

 

Yeah - swinging the pendulum in the other direction is still racism.

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6 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:
6 hours ago, WDSmart said:

Although I am an extreme-left liberal and fervently support diversity, I do think that should not be done at the cost of discriminating against anyone based on their race, gender, sexuality, religion, etc. I don't know if this was done in this case, but if it was, it's wrong and should be rectified the best way possible.

Yes of course... diversity over meritocracy is your mantra until it is applied to you... then hear the uproar.

This wasn't applied to me, although I agree with you that when YOU are the one affected, the activities get personalized.

In this case, IF this man was LET GO AND THEN REPLACED by a person of a different race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion, etc., in order to diversify the employer's workplace, then that, IMO, is wrong. If, however, a person was HIRED over another person in order to enhance the diversity of the workplace, that, then, IMO, is okay.

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2 hours ago, WDSmart said:

This wasn't applied to me, although I agree with you that when YOU are the one affected, the activities get personalized.

In this case, IF this man was LET GO AND THEN REPLACED by a person of a different race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion, etc., in order to diversify the employer's workplace, then that, IMO, is wrong. If, however, a person was HIRED over another person in order to enhance the diversity of the workplace, that, then, IMO, is okay.

 

 

Neither are ok. 

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15 hours ago, WDSmart said:

  If, however, a person was HIRED over another person in order to enhance the diversity of the workplace, that, then, IMO, is okay.

That is precisely the problem... pretty soon the hiring becomes reliant on appearances of being diverse rather than qualified... pretty soon you have second rate service to your industry... a very good example is government workers... ever been to the DMV or any government office and tried to get good service?  NO... didn't think so... if you did it was a mistake made in their hiring practice and one of the qualified slipped through the diversity requirements.

So in your mind it is OK to discriminate as long as it is for the "right" reason... that's total hogwash.

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On 7/5/2024 at 1:36 PM, Hawaiian said:

Time to boycott any company that advertises on CBS.

I wouldn't even know who advertises on CBS.  I only boycott products from the USA and Israel  ... so far :coffee1:

 

... and the UK.  Had to add a 3rd, so I can call them the "Axis of Evil" :cheesy:

 

On topic ... tough lawsuit to win, unless stated fired for diversity.  Going to be a hard one to prove, as many get replaced for younger, less paid employees.

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2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:
18 hours ago, WDSmart said:

  If, however, a person was HIRED over another person in order to enhance the diversity of the workplace, that, then, IMO, is okay.

That is precisely the problem... pretty soon the hiring becomes reliant on appearances of being diverse rather than qualified... pretty soon you have second rate service to your industry... a very good example is government workers... ever been to the DMV or any government office and tried to get good service?  NO... didn't think so... if you did it was a mistake made in their hiring practice and one of the qualified slipped through the diversity requirements.

So in your mind it is OK to discriminate as long as it is for the "right" reason... that's total hogwash.

I disagree because I value societal issues more than economic issues. In other words, I am a left-leaning liberal who favors socialism, and above and IMO, you are expressing the perspective of a right-leaning conservative who favors capitalism.

It's true that hiring the most qualified candidate will most likely provide better service (and more profit) for an organization, but hiring candidates that enhance the diversity of the workplace gives opportunities to those who have not had an equal chance to develop their skills because of their race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion, etc., and that helps enhance the diversity of the society as a whole.

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1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

I disagree because I value societal issues more than economic issues. In other words, I am a left-leaning liberal who favors socialism, and above and IMO, you are expressing the perspective of a right-leaning conservative who favors capitalism.

It's true that hiring the most qualified candidate will most likely provide better service (and more profit) for an organization, but hiring candidates that enhance the diversity of the workplace gives opportunities to those who have not had an equal chance to develop their skills because of their race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion, etc., and that helps enhance the diversity of the society as a whole.

BS... socialism fails repeatedly just for that reason... people do not want to have others put before them that are less qualified and productive... in the USA it is a falsehood to imply that there are those who no longer have all the tools needed to get ahead in society... the laggards now choose to be victims... why is diversity something that needs to be enhanced... what are the benefits... except to the lazy?

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3 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

BS... socialism fails repeatedly just for that reason... people do not want to have others put before them that are less qualified and productive... in the USA it is a falsehood to imply that there are those who no longer have all the tools needed to get ahead in society... the laggards now choose to be victims... why is diversity something that needs to be enhanced... what are the benefits... except to the lazy?

Socialism does not fail repeatedly. It's a part of every nation on earth. Nations like my home country, the USA, are a mix of capitalism and socialism. Every government service that starts with "public," like "public parks," "public libraries," "public streets," and "public hospitals," are examples of the socialistic part of the economy. The contact argument in the USA is always about what the mix of socialism and capitalism should be, not whether there should be only one or the other. This is called a "Bayesian" economy. 

All people in our society will not be treated equally. Some of that is because of prejudices, such as lowered evaluations of people based on their race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion, etc., as I suggested above. But also, some are based on people's physical condition and habits, such as being strong or weak, fast or slow, tall or short, good-looking or ugly, healthy or sickly, smart or dumb, and even energetic or lazy. All of these people are part of our society, and they all should have the same ability to access what they need from all that society has to offer. That's socialism.  

Their share of society's assets should not be based on their identities, skills, or contributions. That's capitalism.
 

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9 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

All of these people are part of our society, and they all should have the same ability to access what they need from all that society has to offer. That's socialism.  

Their share of society's assets should not be based on their identities, skills, or contributions. That's capitalism.

 

for you society should act before you do....to enforce your moral code. 

 

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8 minutes ago, stoner said:
15 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Their share of society's assets

 

are you sharing your assets with those you speak of ?

I do share some of my assets with others and even other non-humans, but I don't live in a country with a pure socialist economy. Like everyone else, Thailand is a Bayesian economy with a mix of more public assets than the USA.  If I lived in a society with a pure socialist economy, I wouldn't have any assets. There would only be "public" assets.  I would be assigned to use whatever public assets I required (if they existed).

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6 minutes ago, stoner said:
13 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I do share some of my assets with others

 

like ?

My wife, my village, almost all those I interact with, the 12 abandoned dogs we've rescued, you, etc., ....

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1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

My wife, my village, almost all those I interact with, the 12 abandoned dogs we've rescued, you, etc., ....

 

what kind of percentages are we talking about here ? 60 percent of your wealth ? your wife really ? 

 

 

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1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

what kind of percentages are we talking about here ? 60 percent of your wealth ? your wife really ? 

 

 

I've never considered that, but I'd estimate about 30%. I calculate that using my savings and monthly income.

But I'll say again: Your question is, IMO, not relevant. What I share of my personal assets in a Baysian economy doesn't matter. What matters is why I should have any personal assets at all, and what percentage of the society-as-a-whole's assets are shared with me and the public, 

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2 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I've never considered that, but I'd estimate about 30%. I calculate that using my savings and monthly income.

But I'll say again: Your question is, IMO, not relevant. What I share of my personal assets in a Baysian economy doesn't matter. What matters is why I should have any personal assets at all, and what percentage of the society-as-a-whole's assets are shared with me and the public, 

 

then why don't you donate all of your assets ? live on social security and be happy to own nothing. you believe life is fair. tell that to a deer down at the watering hole who gets its neck snapped from an alligator.

 

you obviously worked hard in life to gather assets right ? why ? why didn't you live a life of selflessness ? why didnt you work non profit ? become a priest or a monk. live secluded in the forest living off bare essentials and minimums. 

 

how was your upbringing ? were your parents poor ? if so good on you for becoming more than them but....

 

all seems a little virtue signally to me.  

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4 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

then why don't you donate all of your assets ? live on social security and be happy to own nothing. you believe life is fair. tell that to a deer down at the watering hole who gets its neck snapped from an alligator.

 

you obviously worked hard in life to gather assets right ? why ? why didn't you live a life of selflessness ? why didnt you work non profit ? become a priest or a monk. live secluded in the forest living off bare essentials and minimums. 

 

how was your upbringing ? were your parents poor ? if so good on you for becoming more than them but....

 

all seems a little virtue signally to me.  

I have no idea why you're asking all these questions. I'll answer them in the order you asked.

I don't donate all my assets because I need them to live. I live in Thailand, a Bayesian economy and one in which I, as a non-citizen, do not have access to all the public assets.
I do live primarily on social security. I would be happy to own nothing as long as I had access to the assets I needed.
I don't believe life is fair and don't expect it to be, but I do believe the major goal of any society is to care for its members - all of them.
Your story about the deer and the alligator is the theme of the "life of the jungle." And, yes, that's the basis for capitalism.
I worked to gather assets because I lived in the USA, a society with a Basayian economy, which, IMO, leaned heavily towards capitalism, so I didn't have a choice to live a "life of selflessness."

I rejected religions, so I did not become a priest or monk.

I have often thought of living in the forest off bare essentials, and in fact, my life now is moving more toward that, but I don't expect it will ever get to that extreme.

My upbringing was good. My parents were "upper middle class." I never desired to be exactly like them.

 

I don't know what you mean by "virtue signally," but I can say that now that I'm 78, retired, and living in the mountains of Thailand, I believe I can see things a lot clearer than when I was 35, working self-employed in IT (in what is now called "AI"), traveling all over the world to do contract work, mainly for banks, and never having the time to really think about topics like this one. 

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1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

I have no idea why you're asking all these questions. I'll answer them in the order you asked.

I don't donate all my assets because I need them to live. I live in Thailand, a Bayesian economy and one in which I, as a non-citizen, do not have access to all the public assets.
I do live primarily on social security. I would be happy to own nothing as long as I had access to the assets I needed.
I don't believe life is fair and don't expect it to be, but I do believe the major goal of any society is to care for its members - all of them.
Your story about the deer and the alligator is the theme of the "life of the jungle." And, yes, that's the basis for capitalism.
I worked to gather assets because I lived in the USA, a society with a Basayian economy, which, IMO, leaned heavily towards capitalism, so I didn't have a choice to live a "life of selflessness."

I rejected religions, so I did not become a priest or monk.

I have often thought of living in the forest off bare essentials, and in fact, my life now is moving more toward that, but I don't expect it will ever get to that extreme.

My upbringing was good. My parents were "upper middle class." I never desired to be exactly like them.

 

I don't know what you mean by "virtue signally," but I can say that now that I'm 78, retired, and living in the mountains of Thailand, I believe I can see things a lot clearer than when I was 35, working self-employed in IT (in what is now called "AI"), traveling all over the world to do contract work, mainly for banks, and never having the time to really think about topics like this one. 

 

What is a Basayian economy?

 

Is it spelled right? I can't find anything and there are too many near misses to make a guess.

 

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4 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I disagree because I value societal issues more than economic issues. In other words, I am a left-leaning liberal who favors socialism, and above and IMO, you are expressing the perspective of a right-leaning conservative who favors capitalism.

It's true that hiring the most qualified candidate will most likely provide better service (and more profit) for an organization, but hiring candidates that enhance the diversity of the workplace gives opportunities to those who have not had an equal chance to develop their skills because of their race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion, etc., and that helps enhance the diversity of the society as a whole.

Really? You want a so so Pilot who was hired based on DEI landing your plane. Or a pilot hired on merit.

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