Veteran CBS Anchor Sues Network for $5M, Alleging Discrimination in Pursuit of Diversity

[WDSmart]

47 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

What is a Basayian economy?

 

Is it spelled right? I can't find anything and there are too many near misses to make a guess.

 

Wow! Thanks for your post.

I've thought I've used that term for many years and truly believe I have seen it explained on the web, but now, like you, I can't find it! 

The term used now is just a "mixed economy." 

"Bayesian" is a probabilistic model used in machine learning, which I used to use in my profession, so maybe now, at 78 years old, I've just mixed up the terms. However, I could not find the term for a mixed socialistic/capitalistic economic system - other than just a "mixed system."

Sorry! 

[WDSmart]

10 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Really? You want a so so Pilot who was hired based on DEI landing your plane. Or a pilot hired on merit.

First, I don't want to ever get on a plane again.

Second, and to answer your question, I would like the training to be a pilot available to all diverse types of people. As long as that's the case, I would accept any pilot who meets the basic requirements.

[WDSmart]

24 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

1 hour ago, rabas said:

 

Is it spelled right? I can't find anything and there are too many near misses to make a guess.

 

Wow! Thanks for your post.

I've thought I've used that term for many years and truly believe I have seen it explained on the web, but now, like you, I can't find it! 

The term used now is just a "mixed economy." 

"Bayesian" is a probabilistic model used in machine learning, which I used to use in my profession, so maybe now, at 78 years old, I've just mixed up the terms. However, I could not find the term for a mixed socialistic/capitalistic economic system - other than just a "mixed system." 

Sorry! 

@rabas I found it! It is a "Keynesian" economy. I was using the wrong word. Here is the online definition:

 

"Keynesian economics is a macroeconomic theory that says the government should increase demand to boost growth. The theory supports the expansionary fiscal policy, which involves government spending on infrastructure, unemployment benefits, and education1. Keynesian economics was developed by British economist John Maynard Keynes during the 1930s in an attempt to understand the Great Depression. The theory centers around the idea that governments should play an active role in their countries' economies, instead of just letting the free market reign." keynesian economics for dummies - Search (bing.com)

I've interpreted that as a mix of socialism and capitalism. 

Thanks for your post, which has helped me find this term again.

Edited July 7 by WDSmart

[rabas]

27 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

you must be joking - first hit on google:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_econometrics

 

Yes, that and other things came up.

 

But, Bayesian econometrics is not a type of economy.  It is a type of analysis based in Bayesian distributions, a branch of statistical analysis using probabilities to analyze economic data and trends. Not what the poster intended, I think. 

 

That and the odd spelling led to my question. 

[rabas]

2 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

@rabas I found it! It is a "Keynesian" economy. I was using the wrong word. Here is the online definition:

 

"Keynesian economics is a macroeconomic theory that says the government should increase demand to boost growth. The theory supports the expansionary fiscal policy, which involves government spending on infrastructure, unemployment benefits, and education1. Keynesian economics was developed by British economist John Maynard Keynes during the 1930s in an attempt to understand the Great Depression. The theory centers around the idea that governments should play an active role in their countries' economies, instead of just letting the free market reign." keynesian economics for dummies - Search (bing.com)

I've interpreted that as a mix of socialism and capitalism. 

Thanks for your post, which has helped me find this term again.

 

Congratulations, that make sense. 

 

Of course, you could use Bayesian econometrics to analyze Keynesian economics but by that time it may be easier to just pay your $5 and go home...

 

[WDSmart]

4 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

Yes, that and other things came up.

 

But, Bayesian econometrics is not a type of economy.  It is a type of analysis based in Bayesian distributions, a branch of statistical analysis using probabilities to analyze economic data and trends. Not what the poster intended, I think. 

 

That and the odd spelling led to my question. 

Read my post just above. It's "Keynesian." The mixup in term was my error.

[WDSmart]

...Alleging Discrimination in Pursuit of Diversity

I have a question about what is alleged as the reason for the "Pursuit of Diversity." Was it really to make their workplace more diverse for social reasons? Or was it to make their workplace more diverse to attract more viewers - for economic reasons?

[jayboy]

6 hours ago, WDSmart said:

It's true that hiring the most qualified candidate will most likely provide better service (and more profit) for an organization, but hiring candidates that enhance the diversity of the workplace gives opportunities to those who have not had an equal chance to develop their skills because of their race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion, etc., and that helps enhance the diversity of the society as a whole.

 

 

It's very important we should apply the principle of diversity through all sectors of employment, not just media related.For example we should focus in on the medical and aviation professions where for too long the emphasis in recruitment/hiring has been on merit and potential - thus reinforcing the white male patriarchy.It seems to me we should accept the downside that would be incurred through a more progressive approach to recruitment, ideally with quotas for different ethnicities (not Asians of course - too intelligent and merit oriented) as well as LGBTQ allocations.The most important criterion is diversity not merit. and we should shake off the last century adherence to outdated concepts like professional excellence.

[blazes]

12 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

 

It's very important we should apply the principle of diversity through all sectors of employment, not just media related.For example we should focus in on the medical and aviation professions where for too long the emphasis in recruitment/hiring has been on merit and potential - thus reinforcing the white male patriarchy.It seems to me we should accept the downside that would be incurred through a more progressive approach to recruitment, ideally with quotas for different ethnicities (not Asians of course - too intelligent and merit oriented) as well as LGBTQ allocations.The most important criterion is diversity not merit. and we should shake off the last century adherence to outdated concepts like professional excellence.

 

It's not often we get such a 100% clear picture of the kind of ignorance, racism and virtue signalling involved in this damnable and divisive policy of diversity etc etc. 

 

Going back to the aviation example mentioned earlier:  I would be more than happy to accept a gay, black, disabled flight attendant, but for the left hand pilot's seat of the 787, I would (IF such a choice were to be given to us passengers) like to be informed if the pilot has got there by merit or not.

[WDSmart]

7 minutes ago, blazes said:

 

It's not often we get such a 100% clear picture of the kind of ignorance, racism and virtue signalling involved in this damnable and divisive policy of diversity etc etc. 

 

Going back to the aviation example mentioned earlier:  I would be more than happy to accept a gay, black, disabled flight attendant, but for the left hand pilot's seat of the 787, I would (IF such a choice were to be given to us passengers) like to be informed if the pilot has got there by merit or not.

If by "merit" you mean "the best" applicant, I disagree. If by "merit" you mean "qualified," then I agree.

[Skipalongcassidy]

17 hours ago, rabas said:

 

What is a Basayian economy?

 

Is it spelled right? I can't find anything and there are too many near misses to make a guess.

 

It is a hogwash basis of trying to figure out why dogs poop in the street... rather than deal with the fact that they do.

[Skipalongcassidy]

15 hours ago, WDSmart said:

...Alleging Discrimination in Pursuit of Diversity

I have a question about what is alleged as the reason for the "Pursuit of Diversity." Was it really to make their workplace more diverse for social reasons? Or was it to make their workplace more diverse to attract more viewers - for economic reasons?

OR was it so they could steal more taxpayer funding and secure a tighter control on the population.

[stoner]

19 hours ago, WDSmart said:

so I didn't have a choice to live a "life of selflessness."

 

sure you did. there are lots of ways you could of lived and not worked in the system gathering assets for your retirement. 

 

19 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I don't donate all my assets because I need them to live.

 

you don't though. become a monk. it is not a religion but a way of life. a chance to break free from all of societies ills you speak of and truly live selfless. 

 

but your excuses flow. 

 

19 hours ago, WDSmart said:

working self-employed in IT (in what is now called "AI"), traveling all over the world to do contract work, mainly for banks, and never having the time to really think about topics like this one. 

 

now it all makes sense. 

[WDSmart]

1 hour ago, stoner said:

 

sure you did. there are lots of ways you could of lived and not worked in the system gathering assets for your retirement. 

 

 

you don't though. become a monk. it is not a religion but a way of life. a chance to break free from all of societies ills you speak of and truly live selfless. 

 

but your excuses flow. 

 

 

now it all makes sense. 

I grew up and lived in these countries, so I was, of course, encouraged to live with the systems they have. When I was younger, I did. As I grew older, I realized there are better systems, like socialism. This is why I now advocate it. When I was 20 or 30, or even 40, I would not have and was then totally engaged in capitalism. It was not until later in my life, when I was around 50, that my understanding of life and the ways it could be lived, including living under different economic systems, grew to the point that I began to lean towards socialism.

 

Now, at 78, I am a far-left liberal who recognizes the disadvantages and harms of capitalism and advocates socialism.

[stoner]

16 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I grew up and lived in these countries, so I was, of course, encouraged to live with the systems they have. When I was younger, I did. As I grew older, I realized there are better systems, like socialism. This is why I now advocate it. When I was 20 or 30, or even 40, I would not have and was then totally engaged in capitalism. It was not until later in my life, when I was around 50, that my understanding of life and the ways it could be lived, including living under different economic systems, grew to the point that I began to lean towards socialism.

 

Now, at 78, I am a far-left liberal who recognizes the disadvantages and harms of capitalism and advocates socialism.

 

you're a walking cliche. trying desperately to make up for all the damage you did. worked mostly for banks your whole life...... now you advocate fairness.

 

please.

[WDSmart]

Just now, stoner said:

 

you're a walking cliche. trying desperately to make up for all the damage you did. worked mostly for banks your whole life...... now you advocate fairness.

 

please.

Yes, and what's wrong with that? Would it be better to continue doing the damage? What I am doing is called "learning from experience," not "seeking salvation." 

[stoner]

Just now, WDSmart said:

Yes, and what's wrong with that? Would it be better to continue doing the damage? What I am doing is called "learning from experience," not "seeking salvation." 

bs.

 

you knew when you were 20 30 40 what you were doing was wrong. but you needed to secure your own future first.

 

full circle back to my alligator and deer comment. 

[WDSmart]

Just now, stoner said:

bs.

 

you knew when you were 20 30 40 what you were doing was wrong. but you needed to secure your own future first.

 

full circle back to my alligator and deer comment. 

I did not know what I was doing was wrong. It was not "wrong." I'm not saying that working within the economic system you are under is wrong. I'm saying that now, after working and living under a mainly capitalistic system,  I believe a socialist economic system would be better for society as a whole.

As I said before, your "alligator and deer" comment is an analogy of capitalism. The analogy is based on the belief that there will always be more deer than the alligator can devour. However, if the deer decide to migrate elsewhere or the alligator finally eats all of them, what does the alligator do then? He will look for another victim and try to continue working under the same system, destroying victim after victim until he's forced to turn on his own and eat other alligators. 

That is capitalism.

 

[JonnyF]

ITV should take note.

 

Inflicting the embarrasingly useless Eni Aluko on us at the expense of the brilliant Clive Tyldesley was a crime against humanity. 

[Gsxrnz]

I'm reconciled to the fact that my Caucasian (with a capital C) grandchildren will actually be a minority by about 2075. 

 

Auckland, the largest city in NZ, is only 54% Caucasian. Place Summaries | Auckland Region | Stats NZ And that information is from 2018.

 

Immigration to NZ last year was 225,000 on a population of circa 5M. That represents 4.5% of the population in only one year. New Zealand immigration hits an all-time high as movement surges following pandemic lull | AP News

 

Whites are already a minority in London.

 

You don't need to be a mathematician to see where this is going.

[stoner]

13 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I did not know what I was doing was wrong. It was not "wrong." I'm not saying that working within the economic system you are under is wrong. I'm saying that now, after working and living under a mainly capitalistic system,  I believe a socialist economic system would be better for society as a whole.

As I said before, your "alligator and deer" comment is an analogy of capitalism. The analogy is based on the belief that there will always be more deer than the alligator can devour. However, if the deer decide to migrate elsewhere or the alligator finally eats all of them, what does the alligator do then? He will look for another victim and try to continue working under the same system, destroying victim after victim until he's forced to turn on his own and eat other alligators. 

That is capitalism.

 

 

ok. 

[blazes]

12 minutes ago, Gsxrnz said:

Whites are already a minority in London.

 

You don't need to be a mathematician to see where this is going.

 

Ditto, UK, Germany, France, Canada, and many other parts of Europe (but not Hungary). 

 

Less said the better about the many millions of illegals walking over the US southern border between 2021-24.

[WDSmart]

5 minutes ago, blazes said:

 

Ditto, UK, Germany, France, Canada, and many other parts of Europe (but not Hungary). 

 

Less said the better about the many millions of illegals walking over the US southern border between 2021-24.

Here's what the world is now, and that shows where every country, unless they enact laws to prevent immigration, is going...

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=eAzEnk9T&id=408550926CEA05427571C0E35B8EEC3A76F9BEF0&thid=OIP.eAzEnk9Tc8BM-2aL2nGeSQAAAA&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fwww.had.gov.hk%2frru%2fimages%2fgraph-ethnic_groups.png&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.780cc49e4f5373c04cfb668bda719e49%3frik%3d8L75djrsjlvjwA%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=360&expw=474&q=percentage+of+ethnicities+in+the+world&simid=607988265501671304&FORM=IRPRST&ck=BF21DCE5B68A684903979BE2E84908AA&selectedIndex=2&itb=0

[blazes]

12 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Here's what the world is now, and that shows where every country, unless they enact laws to prevent immigration, is going...

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=eAzEnk9T&id=408550926CEA05427571C0E35B8EEC3A76F9BEF0&thid=OIP.eAzEnk9Tc8BM-2aL2nGeSQAAAA&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fwww.had.gov.hk%2frru%2fimages%2fgraph-ethnic_groups.png&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.780cc49e4f5373c04cfb668bda719e49%3frik%3d8L75djrsjlvjwA%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=360&expw=474&q=percentage+of+ethnicities+in+the+world&simid=607988265501671304&FORM=IRPRST&ck=BF21DCE5B68A684903979BE2E84908AA&selectedIndex=2&itb=0

What exactly are you trying to demonstrate with this bunch of statistics? 
Most of the arguments back and forth re immigration on this thread are rarely based on racial considerations.  It is religion, especially the "religion of peace",, that causes the most resistance to diversity and all the other lefty progressive insistence on inclusivity. 

 

Most people can live with racial diversity.  Few can live with the demand for special status for certain religions, whose only aim in life is to re-create in the "new" country the hideous homophobia and misogyny of the $hithole country they have come from.

 

 

[rabas]

2 hours ago, WDSmart said:

Here's what the world is now, and that shows where every country, unless they enact laws to prevent immigration, is going...

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=eAzEnk9T&id=408550926CEA05427571C0E35B8EEC3A76F9BEF0&thid=OIP.eAzEnk9Tc8BM-2aL2nGeSQAAAA&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fwww.had.gov.hk%2frru%2fimages%2fgraph-ethnic_groups.png&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.780cc49e4f5373c04cfb668bda719e49%3frik%3d8L75djrsjlvjwA%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=360&expw=474&q=percentage+of+ethnicities+in+the+world&simid=607988265501671304&FORM=IRPRST&ck=BF21DCE5B68A684903979BE2E84908AA&selectedIndex=2&itb=0

 

This is not what the world is now, you don't read what you post!  This is only the 8.4% of Hong Kong's population who are not ethnic Chinese, Hong Kong is 91.6% almost pure Chinese.

 

The natural voluntary mixing of peoples under fair democratic conditions (where all citizens have the say) is fine. Forced mixing at the hands of far left social engineering, often for political purposes, is  both criminal and highly destructive. 

 

from your unread reference:

Hong Kong is a largely homogenous society, with about 91.6% of its people being Chinese (ethnically speaking, Han Chinese). The 2021 Population Census found (by way of self-identification) that there were about 619,568 non-Chinese people in Hong Kong, or about 8.4% of the population. Not all members of the non-Chinese groups are permanently settled in Hong Kong.

 

Edited July 8 by rabas

[WDSmart]

10 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

This is not what the world is now, you don't read what you post!  This is only the 8.4% of Hong Kong's population who are not ethnic Chinese, Hong Kong is 91.6% almost pure Chinese.

 

The natural voluntary mixing of peoples under fair democratic conditions (where all citizens have the say) is fine. Forced mixing at the hands of far left social engineering, often for political purposes, is  both criminal and highly destructive. 

 

from your unread reference:

Hong Kong is a largely homogenous society, with about 91.6% of its people being Chinese (ethnically speaking, Han Chinese). The 2021 Population Census found (by way of self-identification) that there were about 619,568 non-Chinese people in Hong Kong, or about 8.4% of the population. Not all members of the non-Chinese groups are permanently settled in Hong Kong.

 

Again, my bad! How about this one? 

https://infogram-thumbs-1024.s3.amazonaws.com/Olpin_1358957847.jpg

[rabas]

34 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Again, my bad! How about this one? 

https://infogram-thumbs-1024.s3.amazonaws.com/Olpin_1358957847.jpg

 

What is it? No description. Current world population?

 

That's not related to ethnic mixing.

[WDSmart]

1 hour ago, rabas said:

 

What is it? No description. Current world population?

 

That's not related to ethnic mixing.

Yes, that one was supposed to be worldwide. Here is another one which is label as such:

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-fd5c8a559e1f3279519664facbbd7bb3-pjlq

 

It's not meant to show mixing other than the "Other Multiracial" slice on the upper left.

I first posted it to show what a worldwide immigrant mix might be. It was meant for those who want to limit immigration in their country to preserve the "original" ethnicity. My remark on that post was that "someday, the makeup of your entire country will look more like this."