22 August Small Aircraft Crash in Chachoengsao.

[NicoBKK]

1 hour ago, KhunBENQ said:

The web says this is on Koh Kood?

Ko Mai Si is the closest landing strip to Soneva Kiri on Ko Kood - a short boat's ride. There are no resorts (at least luxurious) on Ko Mai Si

[Georgealbert]

38 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Yes it was. Dstination was VTKUD small airstrip on Ko Mai Si.

 

Crashed under unknown circumstances in Wat Khao Din, Bang Pakong District, Chachoengsao Province.

 

https://asn.flightsafety.org/wikibase/413073

 

RIP people.

 

 

Thank you for the link to Aviation Safety Network.

 

What is interesting is that they sourced their information from this AN topic, and it is linked in their post.

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, Georgealbert said:

Thank you for the link to Aviation Safety Network.

 

What is interesting is that they sourced their information from this AN topic, and it is linked in their post.

 

Yes I saw that. Stay famous, George!

 

It looks like there are contributions from individuals (not named).

 

I hope the info is accuarate. Best I could find.

[Georgealbert]

12 minutes ago, NicoBKK said:

Ko Mai Si is the closest landing strip to Soneva Kiri on Ko Kood - a short boat's ride. There are no resorts (at least luxurious) on Ko Mai Si

Yes this aircraft is the resort’s shuttle service, and has been for many years.

 

This aircraft also has one previous incident in 2012;

 

“Cessna 208B HS-SKR, named "Soneva Kiri", suffered a prop strike and nose wheel collapse following overrun on landing on 10/12/2012 at Ko Mai Si, Thailand. Later repaired & returned to Don Mueang 13/7/13”

 

https://asn.flightsafety.org/wikibase/155569

[Georgealbert]

3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Yes I saw that. Stay famous, George!

 

It looks like there are contributions from individuals (not named).

 

I hope the info is accuarate. Best I could find.

The details in this topic, has been changing as more information became available, and it was a developing incident.

 

The updates are from what has been reported through credible channels, and my observations as most of the rescue, yesterday, was live streamed.

[retarius]

RIP. Innocent lives lost, very sad indeed. 

[webfact]

Nine confirmed dead in Chachoengsao plane crash (video)
by Puntid Tantivangphaisal

 

Photo courtesy of KhaoSod English

A small plane carrying nine people, including passengers and crew, tragically crashed just 10 minutes after takeoff in Chachoengsao province yesterday. All on board are dead.

The harrowing incident occurred yesterday afternoon, August 22, when officials began the grim task of recovering the wreckage in Moo 6, Ban Khao Din, Bang Pakong district.

 

Initially, the bodies of the passengers were nowhere to be found, sparking concern. However, it was soon discovered that the aircraft had plunged nose-first into the earth, embedding itself more than 10 metres deep in the muddy ground.

 

The recovery effort has been fraught with challenges. Rescuers had to bring in an excavator to clear a waterway at the crash site, as seawater flooded the area, which is surrounded by rice fields, irrigation canals, fish ponds, and shrimp farms.

The aircraft, a Cessna Caravan C208 with registration HSSKR, belonged to Thai Flying Service Company Limited and was operating as flight TFT209.

It took off from Suvarnabhumi Airport at 2.46pm, en route to Trat Airport. Contact was lost with Bangkok Approach at 2.57pm, just 18.7 nautical miles from its departure point.

 

Photo courtesy of KhaoSod English

Chachoengsao Province Governor Chonlatee Yangtrong revealed that approximately 300 officials have been mobilised in the search for the bodies. So far, several human body parts have been discovered.

 

Among the passengers were five Chinese nationals, including a 12 year old girl, and four Thai nationals, including the two pilots and two flight attendants, reported KhaoSod English.

 

Apart from the 12 year old girl, the four other Chinese nationals were identified as a 43 year old female named Zhang, a 45 year old Chinese woman, and two 13 year old girls named Yin and Tang.

 

The four Thai nationals were identified as a 35 year old woman named Napak and 26 year old Siriyupa who were both flight attendants, 30 year old Pornsak (co-pilot), and 61 year old Anucha (pilot).

 

Photo courtesy of KhaoSod English

Rescue teams have been working tirelessly, rotating shifts to continue the search. They have also deployed an excavator with a longer arm to reach the deeply buried wreckage after the initial equipment proved inadequate. The mission to recover the bodies continues, but hopes of finding any survivors are all but gone.

 

 

Source: The Thaiger 2024-08-23

 

 

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[Kaopad999]

So sad, RIP to everyone onboard 😞 

Sorry, but there is no way i would get on one those single propeller planes... 😕 
 

[KhunBENQ]

1 hour ago, NicoBKK said:

Ko Mai Si is the closest landing strip to Soneva Kiri on Ko Kood - a short boat's ride. There are no resorts (at least luxurious) on Ko Mai Si

Indeed Soneva Kiri. On booking you find it for a negligible 46000 Baht/night.

5 bedrooms, 1000 sqm for 360000.

Not the typical Chinese tourists.

[digbeth]

they'd have to be flying straight down to be buried so deep
cctv on the ground records engine sounds until impact, so the engine didn't go out, maybe bird strike or something took out the elevator or other control surface

 

the airframe is quite new in general aviation standard, but maintenance? 

 

the 'airline' as they're structured separately from the hotel hires graduate fresh out of flight school (it would be disrespectful to say that those that didn't get pick up by proper airlines get to essentially come fly airport shuttle for a hotel aren't the brightest but)  there has been a few near misses with this plane in the past, was it repaired properly?  

the owner of the 'airline' is a flight instructor and is also pilot in command on this flight

 

few years back the very same hotel had a big fire that sees their high paying guests burned, no sprinkler or fire equipment installed at all in their wooden structure, do they have same attitude towards safety on their plane?

[Georgealbert]

Family of Co Pilot Collapses While Attending Search Site

 

On the morning of August 23, 2024, the family of 30-year-old Co Pilot Phornsak Totap arrived at the crash site. Overcome with grief, at what they witnessed at the scene, Phornsak’s mother, wife, and child all collapsed and required immediate medical attention.

 

Authorities are intensifying efforts to recover human remains from the wreckage. A backhoe has been deployed to stabilise, the ground the ground around the scene for further excavation.
 

Security protocols are being enforced, restricting access to the crash site, as evidence and potentially hazardous materials are.present. The public has been urged to stay outside the search zone while operations continue. 

 

Picture showing the condition of wreckage being pulled from the deep mud.

 

[Taboo2]

May they rest in peace.  Very sad.

[norfolkandchance]

Why the need for 2 Flight attendants.

[digbeth]

4 minutes ago, norfolkandchance said:

Why the need for 2 Flight attendants.

 

probably just hotel staff, if the plane's going there anyway saves them getting on van and boat 

[Georgealbert]

These two Youtube videos, are, I believe, the aircraft involved in the incident and the private island airport it was heading to.

 

 

 

[norfolkandchance]

4 minutes ago, digbeth said:

 

probably just hotel staff, if the plane's going there anyway saves them getting on van and boat 

On a jolly then. Hotel- Swampy- Hotel.

[Wongkitlo]

10 minutes ago, norfolkandchance said:

Why the need for 2 Flight attendants.

It is one of the most expensive resorts in the world. At the moment low season price 40,000 b per night but increases high season to around 70,000 b. Their other resort is in the Bahamas. Not a good week for rich people afterthe yacht sinking.

[Georgealbert]

The ADS-B data (shown below) is incomplete, as the last 2 - 3 minutes are missing. It is impossible to speculate why that data is not available, but it does seem to indicate that what ever happened was sudden and quickly lead to the impact with the ground.

 

The last recorded altitude, 4900 feet, was the maximum seen during the short flight. All timings are shown in UTC, standard for this type of data.

 

[Georgealbert]

August 23, Officials from the Office of Aviation Accident Investigation (AAIC) have reported that 30% of the debris from the aircraft crash in Chachoengsao has been recovered. Mr. Pongthep Sirisawat, a special expert in aviation operations representing the AAIC, stated that the aircraft did not have a black box, like seen in larger commercial aircraft due to its small size and weight, which is below 5,700 kilograms, as per ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organisation) regulations.
 

The recovered box (pictured below) was only an automatic flight data recorder, not a black box, as it only records limited flight parameters. Without a black box, investigators must rely on the analysis of the available limited data and debris to determine the cause of the crash.

 

Mr. Pongthep has requested maintenance records from the plane's owner but noted that no definitive cause has been determined yet, nor whether technical issues were involved. He also called on the public to provide CCTV footage, mobile clips, or aircraft parts if found, as every piece of information is crucial to the investigation.

 

Mr. Pornchai Boonmuang, a maintenance expert from the AAIC, added that all recovered parts will be thoroughly examined along with the maintenance records to uncover the cause of the crash.

 

[Burma Bill]

17 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

The victims’ names were released, and include 2 children, are as follows:

 

1. Chang Jing Jing, 12 years old
2. Chang Jing, 43 years old
3. Tang Yu, 42 years old
4. Yin Jin Feng, 45 years old
5. Yin Hang, 13 years old
6. Napak Jirasiri, 35 years old
7. Siriyupa Arunathit, 26 years old
8. Pornsak Totap, 30 years old (Co-pilot)
9. Captain Anucha Dechaphiraksorn, 61 years old (Pilot)

 Very tragic RIP.

The five Chinese were tourists from Hong Kong. In addition to the pilot and co-pilot, the other 2 Thais were cabin crew.

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/9-passengers-crew-feared-dead-043829183.html

[Georgealbert]

At 11:15 on August 23, Deputy Prime Minister Anutin Charnvirakul, who also serves as Minister of Interior, provided updates from the crash site. He explained that the plane plunged to the ground before exploding, scattering debris and human remains across the area. Rescue operations have already recovered about 40% of the wreckage. "The aircraft is completely shattered, and none of the parts are intact. Once all the pieces are recovered, experts will reassemble them to determine the cause of the crash. We are also coordinating with aviation experts from the aircraft's manufacturing company in the U.S. to assist in the investigation," Anutin stated.

 

He also mentioned that, since the aircraft was a small propeller plane with no black box, witness testimonies will be crucial to the investigation. Witnesses reported hearing the plane's engine before it crashed, indicating that the engine was still running at the time of the accident. Anutin raised concerns as to why the plane did not glide during an emergency but instead fell directly to the ground.

The aircraft, a small U.S.-manufactured propeller plane, was authorised to fly at an altitude of 5,000 feet (approximately 1.5 kilometres). Anutin added that all pilots are trained to glide during emergencies, and the pilot of this particular flight was highly experienced. He emphasized the importance of allowing investigators the time they need to determine which component of the plane may have caused the crash.

 

Despite his confidence in the airline's adherence to maintenance regulations, Anutin reiterated that the final determination would have to wait until the investigation is complete.

 

 

Picture courtesy of Khaosod

[smew]

RIP: As per shown picture, the plane did not look as if in great condition, no surprise,  plus known " great thai mechanic-ship" 

  

[Rimmer]

Off topic post removed

[snoop1130]

Plane to see: Suspicions surround Chachoengsao plane crash

 

Details surrounding the small plane crash in Chachoengsao have begun to emerge, revealing several suspicious factors. It was reported that the weather was fair on the day of the incident, with no rain clouds and the captain was very experienced.

 

It took some 11 hours for rescue teams to search for the bodies of all those onboard a small plane which crashed in the area of Village No. 6, Khao Din subdistrict, Bang Pakong district, Chachoengsao province, ending at 2am today, August 23. The excavated aeroplane parts have been collected at Khao Din Subdistrict Administrative Organisation, awaiting special officials to come and inspect the remains.

 

The page, The Secret Records of the Pilot, a platform that collects aviation news and aviation knowledge, has come out to comment on the incident, noting that this plane crash was strange.

 

Below are seven points that were noted:

 

1. The weather on the day

The weather at the time the plane took off was fair, with almost no clouds and no rain. Therefore, the weather should not have been a factor in the accident.

 

2. The altitude of the flight

The plane had flown about 10 to 20 miles from Suvarnabhumi Airport, with the heading indicator at 100, which is normal for small planes. The altitude was not high because the control tower had allowed the plane to fly at no more than 3,000 to 5,000 feet at the start of the journey.

 

3. Airplane models and basic characteristics

The Cessna Grand Caravan is a small, multi-purpose, propeller-powered passenger aircraft that seats 12 people (including 2 pilots). The average travel speed is 120 to 150 nautical miles per hour, approximately 220 to 300 kilometres per hour. There is no legal requirement for this type of aeroplane to have a flight recorder (black box).

 

4. The automatic distress signal was dysfunctional

This type of aeroplane should have an ELT (Emergency Location Transmitter) device, which is a location identification device. If the plane crashes, this device will automatically send a distress signal to various frequencies of the aviation radio and identify the flight location for rescue units to assist. However, the SOS signal was not received at the time of the accident.

 

5. The captain was an experienced flight instructor

The captain was an experienced flight instructor and was also the owner of the aeroplane. There is no doubt about his flying skills. The co-pilot is also known to be talented and highly knowledgeable.

 

6. The nature of the plane’s fall

The nature of the plane’s fall into the ground more than 10 meters deep means that the plane almost fell at a 90-degree angle for such depth.

 

From the audio clip that reporters requested from the CCTV footage from nearby villagers, the sound of the engine still running can be heard. That means that the engine still had power before falling headlong into the ground, contrary to flight principles as the Grand Caravan winged plane is designed to have high stability. Even when the engine is off, the plane can still glide for quite a distance. Therefore, a headlong fall is very unlikely.

 

7. Landing decision

If the engine of the plane fails, the plane can still adjust the blade angle to reduce drag. Moreover, the pilots are trained in the procedures that they have to follow in the case that the engine breaks down.

 

The pilot must choose a landing location which must not be a swampy area or muddy ground. There were other safer places to land, reported KhaoSod.

 

The list of the deceased has been updated:

 

The five Chinese nationals were 12 year old Zhang Jingjing, 13 year old Yin Hang, 43 year old Zhang Jing, 42 year old Tang Yu, and 45 year old Yin Jinfeng.

 

The two Thai flight attendants were 35 year old Napak Jeerasiri and 26 year old Siriyupa Arunathit.

 

The two pilots on the ill-fated flight were 61 year old Anucha Dejapirakchon and 30 year old Pornsak Totap, reported The Nation.

 

By Puntid Tantivangphaisal

Photo courtesy of Bangkok Post

 

Source: The Thaiger 2024-08-23

 

 

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[snoop1130]

Mysterious Shadow Alarms Crash Recovery Team, Sparks Online Frenzy

 

 

In an unusual twist, rescue workers at the site of a fatal plane crash in Bang Pakong were startled by a mysterious shadow, resembling a human face, as they continued their search for victims. The incident quickly spread on social media, captivating netizens worldwide.

 

Jairak Pitakchip, one of the rescuers, posted a photo on August 22, taken during initial excavation efforts to find human remains and aircraft parts. The crash, which occurred the previous night, scattered debris and body parts across the area.

 

The photo displayed a rescue worker with an excavator, but what drew widespread attention was the eerie, face-like shadow captured in the image. Jairak's caption read, “The moment I saw it, my heart skipped a beat,” alongside hashtags to update followers on the ongoing search.

 

Social media reactions were swift, with many expressing shock and marvel at the spectral image. Comments ranged from amazement to heartfelt support for the rescue team's efforts.

 

For over 11 hours, the rescue team has been tirelessly working under harrowing conditions. The sight of the ghostly image added an unsettling layer to their already difficult mission. Compounded by the threat of landslides, which forced a switch in excavators, their task became even more challenging.

 

The tragic crash claimed nine lives, including five Chinese nationals and four Thais. The victims included a 12-year-old girl and two flight attendants, adding a poignant dimension to the recovery efforts.

 

As the search operation continues, the haunting image of the shadow serves as a stark reminder of the tragic loss and the challenges faced by those on the front lines.

 

Photo: The Thaiger

 

-- 2024-08-23

 

 

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[snoop1130]

Small Plane Crashes in Chachoengsao: Pilot and Aircraft Scrutinised

 

 

A small aircraft crash in Bang Pakong, Chachoengsao Province, has drawn significant attention following revelations by Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Home Affairs, Mr. Anutin Chanweerakul. At a briefing on site today, which took place at 11.05 a.m., Mr. Anutin provided updates on the situation and outlined the measures being taken to uncover the cause of the tragic incident.

 

The plane, which was flying from Trat Province to Suvarnabhumi Airport at an altitude of 5,000 feet, was piloted by an experienced instructor—a detail that raises questions about the crash's cause. Initial investigations are focused on whether the aircraft suffered mechanical failure, such as engine issues or structural disintegration of the wing or rudder. Notably, there were no signs of the plane gliding to a landing; rather, it appeared to have fallen abruptly.

 

Adding a layer of complexity, a substance discovered in the pilot's bag will be analysed by medical experts to determine if it played any role in the accident. Meanwhile, the responsible agencies are delving deeper into the technical aspects, to ascertain whether the crash was caused by faulty equipment despite the aircraft being compliant with rigorous maintenance standards.

 

Mr. Anutin assured that aviation regulations are stringent and meticulously followed: spare parts are replaced strictly according to the mandated flight hours. Addressing concerns about the impact on tourism, he stated that while accidents are always a risk, adherence to regulations is paramount to safety and public confidence.

 

The extensive investigation includes collaborating with international experts, given the global use of this airplane model. An in-depth simulation based on the collected wreckage will attempt to recreate the crash circumstances for a clearer understanding.

 

Mr. Anutin's day involved not only a helicopter flight to the crash site but a thorough on-ground inspection, including a visit to the excavation area where heavy machinery is currently unearthing parts of the aircraft. His detailed review concluded with a media address, ensuring transparency and ongoing public communication.

 

As the investigation progresses, further updates are expected to shed light on the factors leading to this unfortunate event, while authorities continue to reassure the public and aviation stakeholders of their commitment to safety and compliance.

 

Photo: Matichon Online

 

-- 2024-08-23

 

 

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[Hummin]

10 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

A Cessna Caravan has been a very relialbe aircraft.  It is a slow mover(under 180 Knots cruise in most cases).   Generally used to land in short and in many cases soft or rough landing areas.  Has been a good fit for rural and out of way areas.  A single engine turboprop workhouse for many companies.  I wonder what the weather was like at the time fo the crash? 

 

Lastly, I wouldn't exactly call a Cessna Caravan a small aircraft.  A Cessna 172 is a small aircraft.  But as always TIT. 

Cessnas is reliable as long they are maintained properly. Skydived from many different models of Cessnas, and 3 of them had serious accidents. 

 

There have been a total of 231 recorded incidences and 166 fatalities with the Cessna Caravan 208, according to the Aviation Safety Network

 

More than half (54 percent) of all aviation accidents in the NTSB's database involve either a Cessna (25,865 crashes), Piper (14,105 crashes)or Beech (5,098) aircraft

 

https://www.cliffordlaw.com/aviation-accidents-and-incidents/

[Enoon]

35 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Cessnas is reliable as long they are maintained properly. Skydived from many different models of Cessnas, and 3 of them had serious accidents. 

 

There have been a total of 231 recorded incidences and 166 fatalities with the Cessna Caravan 208, according to the Aviation Safety Network

 

More than half (54 percent) of all aviation accidents in the NTSB's database involve either a Cessna (25,865 crashes), Piper (14,105 crashes)or Beech (5,098) aircraft

 

https://www.cliffordlaw.com/aviation-accidents-and-incidents/

 

"More than half (54 percent) of all aviation accidents in the NTSB's database involve either a Cessna (25,865 crashes), Piper (14,105 crashes)or Beech (5,098) aircraft"

 

It's not surprising that Cessna, Piper and Beech make up so many of the incidents given the huge numbers of those makes, compared to others, in American skies.

 

Highlighting their record, given their numerical dominance, seems somewhat disingenuous.

 

 

 

[Captain Flack]

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[Georgealbert]

Short CCTV clip from distance captures the final moments, the aircraft seems to falling vertically downwards. Aircraft is not certainly not flying with any control.