What do we think of when we think of land stolen from Indogenes. Not only Palestinians.

All land has been invaded or “stolen” as you like. Maybe you would be happier with the consequence if the Chinese invaded the Americas.

This question is straight out of a university’s brainwashed kids handbook.

We have all been colonised somewhere along the line.

Please leave the virtue signalling to the kids on Tik Tok.

Ah, the 'ole chestnut of "stewarded by natives", indigenous peoples living in harmony with nature and all that.

Next time you get sick I suggest you smear yourself with goji berry paste and burn some sage: revel in that native wisdom.

Can we also have a map showing the island now comprising England, Scotland and Wales as it was when 'inhabited and stewarded by natives' before those evil Romans invaded, and then before those evil Danes invaded, and then before those evil Normans invaded.

59 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

What do we think of when we think of land stolen from Indogenes. Not only Palestinians.

Actually Israel has been a country from biblical times. It has had different names though.

1 hour ago, novacova said:

All land has been invaded or “stolen” as you like. Maybe you would be happier with the consequence if the Chinese invaded the Americas.

Maybe the question is less the "if" and more the "how".

The USA, supposedly "land of the free" has been built on genocide, including the most brutal massacres against women and children. Add slavery with all it entails to it, making the USA one of the most bestial countries on earth.

Its moral depravity is only surpassed by the ignorance and hubris of its nowawadays inhabitants, whose only retort is whataboutism instead of owning up to the moral failure they are (to this day!).

Edited July 12Jul 12 by jts-khorat

4 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:

The USA, supposedly "land of the free" has been built on genocide, including the most brutal massacres against women and children. Add slavery with all it entails to it,

What civilization hasn’t?

5 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:

making the USA one of the most bestial countries on earth.

Due to advancement in technology, if not the US then most likely worse by the likes of a Chinese type of tyranny of which is somewhat tempered by the power of the West.

8 minutes ago, jts-khorat said:

Its moral depravity is only surpassed by the ignorance and hubris of its nowawadays inhabitants, whose only retort is whataboutism instead of owning up to the moral failure they are (to this day!).

The ignorance here is the inability to comprehend and recognize what the word would look like right now if it weren’t for the US, you no doubt would be enslaved by a dictatorship that is if your ancestors had survived.

Maybe the question is less the "if" and more the "how".

The USA, supposedly "land of the free" has been built on genocide, including the most brutal massacres against women and children. Add slavery with all it entails to it, making the USA one of the most bestial countries on earth.

Its moral depravity is only surpassed by the ignorance and hubris of its nowawadays inhabitants, whose only retort is whataboutism instead of owning up to the moral failure they are (to this day!).

So, who are you going to pay reparations to? The guys we "stole" it from, or the guys they "stole" it from? Or the guys they "stole" it from? Going on for thousands of years.

Read a little about Native American history. How they used to skin their prisoners, just for fun. Not to mention that they extincted just about every animal they had the technology to kill, long before the White Man darkened the shores (and extincted even more once they picked up that technology). It wasn't all lollipops and kumbaya and spiritual bliss.

Edited July 12Jul 12 by impulse

1 minute ago, impulse said:

So, who are you going to pay reparations to? The guys we "stole" it from, or the guys they "stole" it from? Or the guys they "stole" it from? Going on for thousands of years.

Nobody talked about reparations. This is your own invention, so maybe if the shoe fits, you need to walk in it.

If you do not see why the argument, that just because somebody else does bad things, it allows you to do as bad or worse than him is false, then you cannot be helped.

If you then act like you are the policeman of the globe, coming along with a wagging finger talking about freedom and democracy, you should be laughed out of the room -- or better, made to face your own history.

Germany had the Nuremburg processes, the USA needs to have something similar (obviously, as you people are very slow owning up to your history, most of it would be post-humously, but it would be essential to set the record straight). Just to keep the Nuremburg analog, where the victors removed any discussioon of their own manifold war crimes from the agenda, would it not be funny to have China or a selection of African countries sitting in this tribunal as judges, just so that a 'fair' verdict can be made?

But even if not -- the number of US leaders that would need to be hanged or shot due to their crimes against humanity would be astonishingly long, with the quantity maybe only a surprise for the Americans themselves.

What would America would be if European did not stole the land? What society would it be in 2026?

The same for HongKong for instance, if british did not took it and put western influence?

Isn’t it that we born in a land for a reason? So stealing the land , genociding is like forcing a destiny. It’s fake. Maybe that’s why Americans are full of tensions. Perhaps they know the all thing is a fraud. They were suppose to do that in Europe not in a land that dont belong to them. Same with Australians. Kiwis ect

And how to fix that? It can never come back to the natural state of what it was supposed to be.

Our entire history as a species is built on conquest.

I think 'thank you' for your sacrifice. Sucks you lost that one, glad I had nothing to do with it. ENJOY

All you non indigenous, who think too much about 'stolen land' ...

... y'all need to leave, or, STFU

5 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

What do we think of when we think of land stolen from Indogenes. Not only Palestinians.

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3 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

If you do not see why the argument, that just because somebody else does bad things, it allows you to do as bad or worse than him is false, then you cannot be helped.

Alts with empirical overlapping similarities.

Humans have been conquering each other’s civilizations since before we crawled out of the caves.

Edited July 12Jul 12 by novacova

4 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

The USA, supposedly "land of the free" has been built on genocide, including the most brutal massacres against women and children.

liar. show the forum our auschwitz, our einsatzgruppen, our general dyer, our katyn, our holodomor, our reign of terror......

4 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

Add slavery with all it entails to it, making the USA one of the most bestial countries on earth

lol. got it. liar.

3 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

Germany had the Nuremburg processes

no, we had it and we should have hung more. germany protected its national socialists though, want examples?

3 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

the number of US leaders that would need to be hanged or shot due to their crimes against humanity would be astonishingly long, with the quantity maybe only a surprise for the Americans themselve

name them, along with their crimes. liar

oh i forgot, you are german, of course you defend national socialism

you cant steal what isnt owned

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

you cant steal what isnt owned

But, but, but, my condo in Thailand floats in mid air, so I'll be fine. 🤣🤣

Edited July 12Jul 12 by KhunHeineken

4 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

The USA, supposedly "land of the free" has been built on genocide, including the most brutal massacres against women and children. Add slavery with all it entails to it, making the USA one of the most bestial countries on earth.

Could you remind me where you’re from? I noticed your bio mentions Germany. It’s interesting, considering its complex history with mass production genocide. Germany initiated two world wars, which resulted in 40 to 50 million deaths.

3 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

Nobody talked about reparations. This is your own invention, so maybe if the shoe fits, you need to walk in it.

If you do not see why the argument, that just because somebody else does bad things, it allows you to do as bad or worse than him is false, then you cannot be helped.

If you then act like you are the policeman of the globe, coming along with a wagging finger talking about freedom and democracy, you should be laughed out of the room -- or better, made to face your own history.

Germany had the Nuremburg processes, the USA needs to have something similar (obviously, as you people are very slow owning up to your history, most of it would be post-humously, but it would be essential to set the record straight). Just to keep the Nuremburg analog, where the victors removed any discussioon of their own manifold war crimes from the agenda, would it not be funny to have China or a selection of African countries sitting in this tribunal as judges, just so that a 'fair' verdict can be made?

But even if not -- the number of US leaders that would need to be hanged or shot due to their crimes against humanity would be astonishingly long, with the quantity maybe only a surprise for the Americans themselves.

You embody the typical European mindset. You throw stones in a glass house.

6 minutes ago, Mr Awesome said:

You embody the typical European mindset. You throw stones in a glass house.

yeah, lets be critical of the us and israel supposedly stealing land, when the biggest source of death and evil and exploitation in the world is europe.

11 minutes ago, Mr Awesome said:

Germany initiated two world wars, which resulted in 40 to 50 million deaths.

dont forget von trotha.

there was a reason the brits, no strangers to murder and exploitation, called germans huns

5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

yeah, lets be critical of the us and israel supposedly stealing land, when the biggest source of death and evil and exploitation in the world is europe.

Let's talk about the German colonization and the oppression of native populations.

4 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

Germany had the Nuremburg processes

After the USA and the UK colonized you.

5 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

Maybe the question is less the "if" and more the "how".

The USA, supposedly "land of the free" has been built on genocide, including the most brutal massacres against women and children. Add slavery with all it entails to it, making the USA one of the most bestial countries on earth.

Its moral depravity is only surpassed by the ignorance and hubris of its nowawadays inhabitants, whose only retort is whataboutism instead of owning up to the moral failure they are (to this day!).

What happened to Native Americans and slavery were terrible, I believe everyone agrees with that.

But acting like the U.S. is somehow one of the most evil countries in history just doesn't hold up.

Before America you had the British Empire which conquered huge parts of the world and was deeply involved in the slave trade and was responsible for countless deaths.

Before Britain, you had the Roman Empire. Before that, there were plenty of other empires that conquered, enslaved, and wiped out entire populations.

The sad truth is that human history is full of war, conquest, and slavery. That doesn't excuse what America did, but it also doesn't make America unique.

Most countries have dark chapters. Singling out the U.S. while ignoring everyone else's isn't an honest look at history.

4 hours ago, jts-khorat said:

Nobody talked about reparations. This is your own invention, so maybe if the shoe fits, you need to walk in it.

If you do not see why the argument, that just because somebody else does bad things, it allows you to do as bad or worse than him is false, then you cannot be helped.

If you then act like you are the policeman of the globe, coming along with a wagging finger talking about freedom and democracy, you should be laughed out of the room -- or better, made to face your own history.

Germany had the Nuremburg processes, the USA needs to have something similar (obviously, as you people are very slow owning up to your history, most of it would be post-humously, but it would be essential to set the record straight). Just to keep the Nuremburg analog, where the victors removed any discussioon of their own manifold war crimes from the agenda, would it not be funny to have China or a selection of African countries sitting in this tribunal as judges, just so that a 'fair' verdict can be made?

But even if not -- the number of US leaders that would need to be hanged or shot due to their crimes against humanity would be astonishingly long, with the quantity maybe only a surprise for the Americans themselves.

You want a Nuremberg-style tribunal for U.S. leaders???

Nuremberg wasn't about putting political opponents on trial. It was about prosecuting leaders who planned and carried out a war of aggression and systematic crimes like genocide and extermination.

If you're going to say American presidents should be "hanged or shot," then who specifically? What crime did they commit? What evidence is there? Which international law did they violate? You can't just make a sweeping statement like that and expect people to accept it.

And if we're going to hold every country to the same standard, are you calling for the same tribunals for Stalin's Soviet Union, Mao's China, Imperial Japan, the Ottoman Empire, the British Empire, Belgium in the Congo or the dictators responsible for millions of deaths in Africa and Asia? Or is this standard only applied to the United States?

The U.S. has made mistakes and some deserve heavy criticism, but pretending America is uniquely evil while ignoring everyone else's history isn't an honest discussion. It's just selective outrage.

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

liar. show the forum our auschwitz, our einsatzgruppen, our general dyer, our katyn, our holodomor, our reign of terror......

WTF are u on about?
Mao (responsible for 10's of millions of deaths) was put in place by bolshevik jews.

You've even named your profile after the biggest mass murderer in history (also a jew) - Can you explain why ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juc6gCDd5-o

20 minutes ago, ericthai said:

You want a Nuremberg-style tribunal for U.S. leaders???

Nuremberg wasn't about putting political opponents on trial. It was about prosecuting leaders who planned and carried out a war of aggression and systematic crimes like genocide and extermination.

If you're going to say American presidents should be "hanged or shot," then who specifically? What crime did they commit? What evidence is there? Which international law did they violate? You can't just make a sweeping statement like that and expect people to accept it.

And if we're going to hold every country to the same standard, are you calling for the same tribunals for Stalin's Soviet Union, Mao's China, Imperial Japan, the Ottoman Empire, the British Empire, Belgium in the Congo or the dictators responsible for millions of deaths in Africa and Asia? Or is this standard only applied to the United States?

The U.S. has made mistakes and some deserve heavy criticism, but pretending America is uniquely evil while ignoring everyone else's history isn't an honest discussion. It's just selective outrage.

All ancient history - the biggest <deleted> nowadays fly American and Israeli flags.

7 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

What do we think of when we think of land stolen from Indogenes. Not only Palestinians.

Debunking the Myth – Modern Palestinians Are Not Descendants of the Canaanites or Philistines

https://christiannewsjunkie.com/debunking-the-myth-modern-palestinians-are-not-descendants-of-the-canaanites-or-philistines/

It seems the so called Palestinians stole the land they are currently on from the ancient Canaanites which they are not descendants of. So I really think it is awful and criminal for the so called Palestinians to try to occupy this land.

7 hours ago, Keeenok Powell said:

This question is straight out of a university’s brainwashed kids handbook.

We have all been colonised somewhere along the line.

Please leave the virtue signalling to the kids on Tik Tok.

Yep, that's a fact.

Google AI sums it up well:

"War, conquest, and forced displacement have fundamentally shaped the borders and ownership of most of the world's populated land throughout human history. While modern land ownership is managed through legal registries, deeds, and financial transactions, the foundational sovereignty of almost every nation-state was originally established or altered by military conflict."

How far back do we have to go to establish who has more rights to land than others?

12 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

How far back do we have to go to establish who has more rights to land than others

far enough back to justify the destruction of the usa and israel by the socialists. thats all that counts

There is no Palestine and never was, even the Quran never mentions it but says Allah gave the Children Israel the Holy Land. Syria takes up about 85% of the protectorate of that name.