Censorship seems to be alive and well under Biden/Harris

[Chwooly]

Let the vitriol and social dissonance flow

 

Meta CEO admits Biden-Harris admin pressured company to censor Americans

 

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/meta-ceo-admits-biden-harris-admin-pressured-company-censor-americans

Edited August 27 by Chwooly
Added the headline

[thaibeachlovers]

Nothing, no matter how devious, surprises me about those two.

Plumbing new depths of politics.

[riclag]

Scotus saved their a..

but we know better imop

 

Notice the wording used  by meta

”pressured” and notice the governments “request”.

 

Missouri vs biden

 

“The government said it had only made requests, not demands, that social media operators remove misinformation”.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murthy_v._Missouri

 

[bamnutsak]

"Ultimately, it was our decision whether or not to take content down, and we own our decisions, including COVID-19-related changes we made to our enforcement in the wake of this pressure," Zuckerberg wrote. 

 

 

'Nuff said.

 

Pressure, or the suggestion that some comments could harm the public, differs from censorship.

 

 

[Chwooly]

Just now, bamnutsak said:

"Ultimately, it was our decision whether or not to take content down, and we own our decisions, including COVID-19-related changes we made to our enforcement in the wake of this pressure," Zuckerberg wrote. 

 

 

'Nuff said.

 

Pressure, or the suggestion that some comments could harm the public, differs from censorship.

 

 

Oh please, we know how a suggestion can actually be a demand, Anyone who is trying to word spin this is not fooling anyone. Why do so many people that think Biden/Harris are good for the country so willing to bury their head in the sand and ignore what is really going on. If a government agency that supplies a large amount of funding to an organization and says "we suggest" it is well know that the consequences of said suggestion could be dire for the person/entity that doesn't follow the suggestion. If that government holds regulatory authority over said business then it is in the best interest of the business to honor the "suggestion". But hey lets spin this like they try to spin lies as "misspoke"

[riclag]

Often times its the left, dems , progressives that have  stymied political opponents!imop

 

Simple meaning of censorship !
 

“Censorship blocks something from being read, heard, or seen.  To "censor" is to review something and to choose to remove or hide parts of it that are considered unacceptable”.

 

The government & agencies took turns playing word games with social media

while hiding behind 3 rd party  platforms.

 

“What do all these groups, though, have in common, and I am going to again refresh your memory. They were all communicating on a private cloud server known as Jira. Now, the screenshot behind me, which is an example of one of thousands, shows on November 3, 2020, that you, Mr. Roth, a Twitter employee, were exchanging communications on Jira, a private cloud server with CISA, NASS, NASED, and Alex Stamos, who now works at Stanford and is a former security officer at Facebook, to remove a posting. Do you now remember communicating on a private cloud server to remove a posting”?

 

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-118hhrg50898/html/CHRG-118hhrg50898.htm

 

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/censorship#:~:text=Censorship blocks something from being,it that are considered unacceptable.

Edited August 27 by riclag

[riclag]

3 hours ago, Chwooly said:

Let the vitriol and social dissonance flow

 

Meta CEO admits Biden-Harris admin pressured company to censor Americans

 

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/meta-ceo-admits-biden-harris-admin-pressured-company-censor-americans

The left doesn’t appreciate being called out especially when found out!

Pure deception especially when they control most of the media . 

imop

[Cameroni]

Censorship is always an admission of weakness. The Democrats being weak at core will always be tempted by censorship.

 

How sick is that though, Zuckerberg makes his billions off the content people produce for him for free, but then he censors them at the slightest pressure from people like Biden and Harris.

 

No justice anywhere.

[Hanaguma]

GovSpeak is insidious.  I get sick of hearing how the government will "ask" people to pay more in taxes, when they really mean that they will force people to pay more taxes at the point of a gun and threat of imprisonment if necessary.

 

This is the same.  

Quote

 

 

[MalcolmB]

1 hour ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

You may have convinced yourself but there is 50% +/- of the electorate who you have not yet convinced.

Ah yes, those deplorables.

They don’t make up 50% though. About 30%

[metisdead]

Posts with derogatory nicknames, intentional misspellings or personal remarks will be removed. Spell names correctly for all sides of the debate.

[riclag]

 Peel the onions , expose harris/ biden censorship! 

Edited August 27 by riclag

[Roo Island]

Time for the trolls spewing misinformation and hate to be reigned in. Enough is enough.

 

This is coming from the king of misinformation

[TedG]

1 hour ago, Roo Island said:

Time for the trolls spewing misinformation and hate to be reigned in. Enough is enough.

 

This is coming from the king of misinformation

 

You are referring to yourself?  

[maesariang]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

 Peel the onions , expose harris/ biden censorship! 

Interesting

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

"Ultimately, it was our decision whether or not to take content down, and we own our decisions, including COVID-19-related changes we made to our enforcement in the wake of this pressure," Zuckerberg wrote. 

 

 

'Nuff said.

 

Pressure, or the suggestion that some comments could harm the public, differs from censorship.

 

 

Zuckerberg wrote. 

 

I rilly, rilly believe that man is impartial- not really.

 

I dislike him so much I can't even write his name.

[EVENKEEL]

4 hours ago, Roo Island said:

Time for the trolls spewing misinformation and hate to be reigned in. Enough is enough.

 

This is coming from the king of misinformation

Very weak comeback, but hey the rest of the wacko libs here don't have much to say.

[Roo Island]

9 hours ago, TedG said:

 

You are referring to yourself?  

What misinformation did I post. Other than facts and we know that you like alternative ones that fit your narrative. 😟

[novacova]

 Disinformation agenda has been exposed: 

Zuckerberg confirms that he volunteered to be a tool for tyranny. What if he had never interfered with the 2020 US election? How many people died due to covid lies?

Zuckerberg needs to face not just the weight of his decisions, but the gravity as to the affects it had on the world globally.

He raked in billions while thousands, if not millions suffered at his choice of being an extension of the so called “democratic party” Let him experience the full extent of the law. 
What is remarkable about this is even though these facts are beginning to be exposed, the folks that have a severe dumb down disposition of the media are choose to relentlessly remain ill informed.

 

[novacova]

18 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

What misinformation did I post. Other than facts and we know that you like alternative ones that fit your narrative. 😟

All of it. You mimic the media verbatim due to being hopelessly caught up in the media black hole vacuum.

[Roo Island]

3 minutes ago, novacova said:

All of it. You mimic the media verbatim due to being hopelessly caught up in the media black hole vacuum.

Show me where, or blah, blah, blah.

[khunJam]

The CIA is the main instigator and have their fingerprints on everything in the propaganda world.

 

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

Seems to have been a problem under Trump, too.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832800

[Chwooly]

13 hours ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

Seems to have been a problem under Trump, too.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52832800

Not sure if your wording is intentional or not but Trump signed an executive order to try and force the Social Media companies to not censor especially conservative voices. Unlike Biden/Harris which was pressuring them to censor

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

18 minutes ago, Chwooly said:

Not sure if your wording is intentional or not but Trump signed an executive order to try and force the Social Media companies to not censor especially conservative voices. Unlike Biden/Harris which was pressuring them to censor

 

Both weren't pleased with social media content, so both tried to force social media to change their content. 

 

Trump wasn't pleased that Twitter was fact-checking his statements, so he threatened them. He wasn't being prevented from posting on Twitter, at least not at that time.   https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52821304

 

Biden wasn't pleased with Facebook allowing disinformation regarding Covid. Don't know if Biden actually threatened Facebook.

 

It is basically the same thing: government interfering with free speech being exercised by social media platforms.

 

If Biden or Trump wasn't pleased with what social media was saying, the answer isn't to threaten them, but rather to exercise their own free speech rights by refuting their statements. 

[Chwooly]

2 hours ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

 

It is basically the same thing: government interfering with free speech being exercised by social media platforms.

 

If Biden or Trump wasn't pleased with what social media was saying, the answer isn't to threaten them, but rather to exercise their own free speech rights by refuting their statements. 

 Agree 100%

[bamnutsak]

17 hours ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

Seems to have been a problem under Trump, too.

 

 

Newly Released Records Show How Trump Tried to Retaliate Against Social Media For Fact-Checking

 

A year ago today, President Trump issued an Executive Order that deputized federal agencies to retaliate against online social media services on his behalf, a disturbing and unconstitutional attack on internet free expression.

 

To mark this ignoble anniversary, EFF and the Center for Democracy & Technology are making records from their Freedom of Information Act lawsuit over the Executive Order public. The records show how Trump planned to leverage more than $117 million worth of government online advertising to stop platforms from fact-checking or otherwise moderating his speech.

 

Although the documents released thus far do not disclose whether government officials cut federal advertising as the Executive Order directed, they do show that the agencies’ massive online advertising budgets could easily be manipulated to coerce private platforms into adopting the president or the government’s preferred political views.

 

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/05/newly-released-records-show-how-trump-tried-retaliate-against-social-media-fact

 

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/05/dangers-trumps-executive-order-explained

 

 

 

[Chwooly]

1 hour ago, bamnutsak said:

 

 

Newly Released Records Show How Trump Tried to Retaliate Against Social Media For Fact-Checking

 

A year ago today, President Trump issued an Executive Order that deputized federal agencies to retaliate against online social media services on his behalf, a disturbing and unconstitutional attack on internet free expression.

 

To mark this ignoble anniversary, EFF and the Center for Democracy & Technology are making records from their Freedom of Information Act lawsuit over the Executive Order public. The records show how Trump planned to leverage more than $117 million worth of government online advertising to stop platforms from fact-checking or otherwise moderating his speech.

 

Although the documents released thus far do not disclose whether government officials cut federal advertising as the Executive Order directed, they do show that the agencies’ massive online advertising budgets could easily be manipulated to coerce private platforms into adopting the president or the government’s preferred political views.

 

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/05/newly-released-records-show-how-trump-tried-retaliate-against-social-media-fact

 

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/05/dangers-trumps-executive-order-explained

 

 

 

Here is the actual text of the executive order. Unlike the vast majority of Trump haters on this forum, I am capable of reading and coming to my own conclusions, Not have it force-fed to my by a clearly biased media. as seen in the above 2 links. 

 

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executive-order-13925-preventing-online-censorship

 

 

[bamnutsak]

 

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Republicans feel that Social Media Platforms totally silence conservatives voices. We will strongly regulate, or close them down, before we can ever allow this to happen. We saw what they attempted to do, and failed, in 2016. We can’t let a more sophisticated version of that....

 

 

[Will B Good]

On 8/28/2024 at 2:42 AM, riclag said:

 Peel the onions , expose harris/ biden censorship! 

 

 

 

Just like they did re: Biden's impeachment..........what do they call it...oh.....Lawfare.....555