J.D.Vance declines to criticize Tucker Carlson over his friendly chat with Holocaust Denier

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Just now, Cameroni said:

 

This is what's called a "red herring" argument. Cooper never claimed that Churchill forced Hitler to unleash Blitzkrieg in the Benelux countries. That would be a ridiculous claim, very obviously.

 

That was NOT Cooper's argument. His argument was that Hitler did not want to fight France and Britain. This is documented and well established. His argument was that Hitler had exepcted Britain and France not to fight over Polland, as they had refused to do over Bohemia and Moravia. There is first hand evidence that Hitler was stunned the British and French declared war.

 

We also know that Churchill since 1938, long before he became Prime Minister, has agitated for a coalition against Germany. Roberts proceeds to agree with Cooper that Churchill did all he could to bring the USA into the war.

 

I still think Cooper has a point that it was Britain which worked hard to make a local European war into a world war.

False. Cooper claimed that it was Churchill's fault that the war expanded beyond Poland. Churchill wasn't even PM until after Hitler invaded the Benelux countries.

[Cameroni]

Just now, placeholder said:

No, saying that Churchill and Britain did as much as possible is not the same thing as saying that they dragged the United States into War.  That would mean that they pulled an unwilling American into the War. Do you believe that the UK had that kind of clout?

 

America was unwilling to be dragged into the war. However the British reached out until they found someone who was well inclined towards the British cause, FDR and worked on him to provide massive economic aid, protection for convoys etc. FDR readily obliged and indeed the Brits had plenty of connections with America to make contact with and persuade a number of Americans to provide assistance in WWII. This is exactly what they did.

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

False. Cooper claimed that it was Churchill's fault that the war expanded beyond Poland. Churchill wasn't even PM until after Hitler invaded the Benelux countries.

 

That's a false argument, Hitler only invaded the Benelux to defeat France. But France only declared war on Germany after British assurances and persuasion. France was very reluctant to declare war. Again the British influence.

 

That Churchill was not PM then is  irrelevant, he had been agitating for a coalition against Germany since 1938.

[connda]

J.D.Vance declines to criticize Tucker Carlson over his friendly chat with Holocaust Denier

 

This is they type of sh*t that Communist do. 
"You must publicly denounce this person and that person for doing this action and that action. 

FYI - You can burn American flags in the US; you can deny the Holocaust in the US.  It's call the First Amendment protections of freedom of speech and expression.  Force denunciations of what the Status Quo is maligning is the road to Communism and totalitarianism.  Anyone who promotes that Vance must denounce anything protected by the First Amendment is essentially a supporter of Communism as well as authoritarianism - ya'll are now personal friends with Mao and Stalin it seems.  Of course many of the American expats here want to see the US turned into a quasi-Communist or authoritarian country.  How'd that work out for the Soviet Union?

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1 minute ago, connda said:

J.D.Vance declines to criticize Tucker Carlson over his friendly chat with Holocaust Denier

 

This is they type of sh*t that Communist do. 
"You must publicly denounce this person and that person for doing this action and that action. 

FYI - You can burn American flags in the US; you can deny the Holocaust in the US.  It's call the First Amendment protections of freedom of speech and expression.  Force denunciations of what the Status Quo is maligning is the road to Communism and totalitarianism.  Anyone who promotes that Vance must denounce anything protected by the First Amendment is essentially a supporter of Communism as well as authoritarianism - ya'll are now personal friends with Mao and Stalin it seems.  Of course many of the American expats here want to see the US turned into a quasi-Communist or authoritarian country.  How'd that work out for the Soviet Union?

You clearly haven't a clue about the First Amendment. Denouncing the opinions of other people, and asking others to denounce those opinions is also protected by the first Amendment. J.D. Vance is free to spout nonsense and be interviewed by whomever he pleases. And others  are free to denounce him for his opinions and for those with whom he chooses to associate.

[Cameroni]

Darryl Cooper has published his reply to the mob. Those who want to crucify him will be sorely disappointed, as he's firmly taking the side of jews, not deniers.

 

https://subscribe.martyrmade.com/p/my-response-to-the-mob

[stevenl]

7 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Darryl Cooper has published his reply to the mob. Those who want to crucify him will be sorely disappointed, as he's firmly taking the side of jews, not deniers.

 

https://subscribe.martyrmade.com/p/my-response-to-the-mob

So you consider this a reply.

"I will give you all a much fuller response to the recent kerfuffle soon, but for now I hope this clip from Fear & Loathing in the New Jerusalem is sufficient. We’ll talk soon."

[Cameroni]

7 hours ago, stevenl said:

So you consider this a reply.

"I will give you all a much fuller response to the recent kerfuffle soon, but for now I hope this clip from Fear & Loathing in the New Jerusalem is sufficient. We’ll talk soon."

 

No, the audio of course.