Replacement Apple batteries, oem or generic?

[up2you2]

My son's Apple 13 iPhone's battery needs replacing.
From people's experience what's the best recourse, replace it through Apple Care or risk a non generic battery alternative, from many of these repair shops?

[sometimewoodworker]

On 9/15/2024 at 3:24 PM, up2you2 said:

My son's Apple 13 iPhone's battery needs replacing.
From people's experience what's the best recourse, replace it through Apple Care or risk a non generic battery alternative, from many of these repair shops?

It very much depends on the life you expect to get from the phone. The genuine Apple sourced batteries are excellent value for money and you can be sure the replacement will be perfect.

You can get batteries of various qualities from independent suppliers, they will be cheaper, they will not have the same life time as an apple battery, Apple does not supply batteries to anyone neither do its suppliers. So if you want 2 and more years then get it through Apple care, if you want a cheaper battery that will need replacement long before the Apple only then use a good independent.

[Paradise Pete]

On 9/15/2024 at 3:24 AM, up2you2 said:

My son's Apple 13 iPhone's battery needs replacing.
From people's experience what's the best recourse, replace it through Apple Care or risk a non generic battery alternative, from many of these repair shops?

 

iPhones are difficult to service. If something goes wrong Apple will deal with it. If you go to a third party and something goes wrong you might be stuck with it.

 

Batteries are not outrageously priced. Considering the risk I personally would only let Apple do it.

 

[NotEinstein]

I replaced the battery, along with the screen,  in my iPhone6 5 years ago with items I bought on Lazada and it is still fine. Unfortunately, due to the inability to upgrade IoS, I will no longer be able to use Whatsapp and Line from November, so no more Apples for me.

[sometimewoodworker]

@Paradise Pete is absolutely correct the cost from Apple is ฿ 3,290 it will have a guarantee and be genuine and though they won’t damage anything if they do fixing is free

 

you can get an independent to do it for you for less, the battery will have a shorter lifespan.

 

while @NotEinstein did a replacement on an iPhone 6 (I could also do one on one of those) because the screen is not hot melt glued) I doubt he would do a glued one, I certainly would not.

[NotEinstein]

1 hour ago, sometimewoodworker said:

@Paradise Pete is absolutely correct the cost from Apple is ฿ 3,290 it will have a guarantee and be genuine and though they won’t damage anything if they do fixing is free

 

you can get an independent to do it for you for less, the battery will have a shorter lifespan.

 

while @NotEinstein did a replacement on an iPhone 6 (I could also do one on one of those) because the screen is not hot melt glued) I doubt he would do a glued one, I certainly would not.

Lol - I bought a new phone for less than that.

 

I have actually changed a couple of glued screens - that's what the hairdryer is for!

[sometimewoodworker]

21 hours ago, NotEinstein said:

Lol - I bought a new phone for less than that.

 

I have actually changed a couple of glued screens - that's what the hairdryer is for!

You may want a cheap new phone, personally I used a Samsung Hero until I needed a phone with Apple CarPlay, when I transitioned to an SE 2

You may have the skill to do that with a hairdryer, but get it wrong and you will damage the Touch ID sensor and then if you want to use Touch ID you are out of luck unless you want to pay Apple (the only ones who can do the job) upwards of 12,000 for a replacement screen & home button DAMHIKT 😪

[KhunLA]

Whoa ... 3,290 for a battery ... 

 

So they basically charge the same as if done in the USA, actually a tad more.   Not cheaper considering the Thai labor cost, and proximity to CN.  What a joke 

 

[sometimewoodworker]

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Whoa ... 3,290 for a battery ... 

 

So they basically charge the same as if done in the USA, actually a tad more.   Not cheaper considering the Thai labor cost, and proximity to CN.  What a joke 

 

Well no it isn’t really more. Apple basically charges exactly the same, just that the exchange rate has tanked and they don’t adjust prices that quickly, also there is the difference in VAT (Thailand) and state taxes (USA)

go back a couple of months and your $89 = ฿3,270 so where is the joke?

 

The closeness to China is irrelevant.

[KhunLA]

45 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Well no it isn’t really more. Apple basically charges exactly the same, just that the exchange rate has tanked and they don’t adjust prices that quickly, also there is the difference in VAT (Thailand) and state taxes (USA)

go back a couple of months and your $89 = ฿3,270 so where is the joke?

 

The closeness to China is irrelevant.

The joke is, the Thai employee at best is probably getting 1000 baht a day, and the USA employee is probably getting 1000 baht an hour.

 

Thailand is a lot closer to CN, so shipping should be considerably less.  But yet, charged the same price.  

 

Anything, most things involving labor cost much less here.  Quick Google and oil change (Toyota) in USA is ~$169,   TH - 1500-2000 baht/$45-60.

 

Apple has not shame.  Why they have such a small market share.

Edited September 18 by KhunLA

[msbkk]

On 9/15/2024 at 6:05 PM, sometimewoodworker said:

It very much depends on the life you expect to get from the phone. The genuine Apple sourced batteries are excellent value for money and you can be sure the replacement will be perfect.

You can get batteries of various qualities from independent suppliers, they will be cheaper, they will not have the same life time as an apple battery, Apple does not supply batteries to anyone neither do its suppliers. So if you want 2 and more years then get it through Apple care, if you want a cheaper battery that will need replacement long before the Apple only then use a good independent.

I once let a repair shop install a low priced battery into my Samsung phone. The phone was slightly damaged during the process. The new battery lasted around 10 days. Never again. 

[sometimewoodworker]

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Apple has not shame.  Why they have such a small market share.

You may like to try to convince yourself but you are wrong.

apple has very few models compared to the hundreds of android ones however even in Thailand the market share is over 33% and rising, in the USA it’s over 58% and rising in the U.K. over 52% and rising  while android is falling in all 3

 

Take all the high net worth countries, the top being Bermuda at over 98%, few of them are under 50%.

 

So you can try to convince yourself and others of the fable of Apple having a small market share, they don’t!

[KhunLA]

2 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

You may like to try to convince yourself but you are wrong.

apple has very few models compared to the hundreds of android ones however even in Thailand the market share is over 33% and rising, in the USA it’s over 58% and rising in the U.K. over 52% and rising  while android is falling in all 3

 

Take all the high net worth countries, the top being Bermuda at over 98%, few of them are under 50%.

 

So you can try to convince yourself and others of the fable of Apple having a small market share, they don’t!

that's funny ... 4 countries out of 200+ 

 

 

source

 

 

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Edited September 18 by KhunLA

[Paradise Pete]

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

that's funny ... 4 countries out of 200+ 

 

Of premium phones, Apple's worldwide marketshare is 62%. Second is Samsung, with 22%.

 

https://www.huaweicentral.com/huawei-ranks-third-while-apple-tops-in-q2-2024-global-premium-phone-market/

 

[sometimewoodworker]

11 hours ago, KhunLA said:

that's funny ... 4 countries out of 200+ 

You really should extract your head out of a place designed for solid waste elimination 

there are 29 countries over 50% market share with another 18 over 40% 

as @Paradise Pete said world wide Apple is at 62% virtually 3 times the nex contender

 

even in the Chinese market they are 1.7 times the Chinese maker

 

 

so sure your cheap android phones are selling more.

 

Do please let us know the actual profit made by the android phone makers  are any of them making more than 5%?

[KhunLA]

3 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

You really should extract your head out of a place designed for solid waste elimination 

there are 29 countries over 50% market share with another 18 over 40% 

as @Paradise Pete said world wide Apple is at 62% virtually 3 times the nex contender

 

even in the Chinese market they are 1.7 times the Chinese maker

 

 

so sure your cheap android phones are selling more.

 

Do please let us know the actual profit made by the android phone makers  are any of them making more than 5%?

And, as I stated,  it still equals <29% market share worldwide, which in my world, is a small market share.   

 

Especially considering how long they've been around vs Android phones.   

 

You should wait till all the cherries ripen 

Edited September 19 by KhunLA

[The Fugitive]

17 hours ago, msbkk said:

I once let a repair shop install a low priced battery into my Samsung phone. The phone was slightly damaged during the process. The new battery lasted around 10 days. Never again.

A Thai friend pointed out that my iPhone and Android backup phone were both seriously bulging and could be dangerous. He persuaded me to let a friend of his instal new batteries in both. The iPhone very soon split apart but the Android phone continues to work satisfactorily. 50% success rate has to be good?

[The Fugitive]

On 9/17/2024 at 6:42 AM, NotEinstein said:

I replaced the battery, along with the screen,  in my iPhone6 5 years ago with items I bought on Lazada and it is still fine. Unfortunately, due to the inability to upgrade IoS, I will no longer be able to use Whatsapp and Line from November, so no more Apples for me.

Thanks for your info, very useful to know these things. My Thai Mrs has a friend with a mobile phone shop. He takes part-exchange and we've bought laptops and tablets from him as well as phones. My step-daughter was happy to get my iPhone 7 plus when we upgraded to iPhone 8 plus two years ago. I had an Android phone from same year which even then wouldn't instal the app for my neo-bank. Two years later our iPhone 8's remain good. How much longer remains to be seen but from my experience I will continue buying 5 year old secondhand iPhones.

[sometimewoodworker]

31 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

And, as I stated,  it still equals <29% market share worldwide, which in my world, is a small market share.   

 

Especially considering how long they've been around vs Android phones.   

 

You should wait till all the cherries ripen 

Do tell the makers of the most desirable products like Porsche, Lamborghini, Rolls Royce, Bentley, Ferrari, Lexus, Alfa Romeo, Louis Vuitton, Chanel, Prada, Hermès, Fendi, Céline, Dior, Patek Philippe, Rolex, Audemars Piguet, Breitling, Cartier, etc  that because they have small market share they are unimportant.

[KhunLA]

2 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Do tell the makers of the most desirable products like Porsche, Lamborghini, Rolls Royce, Bentley, Ferrari, Lexus, Alfa Romeo, Louis Vuitton, Chanel, Prada, Hermès, Fendi, Céline, Dior, Patek Philippe, Rolex, Audemars Piguet, Breitling, Cartier, etc  that because they have small market share they are unimportant.

You can't fix stupid ... some folks have more money than common sense.  Fine if you actually use all the features of a product, along with product not having known issues, but most buy (guessing) just for show.

 

As other brands do the same or perform better, that are much cheaper to buy & maintain.

[sometimewoodworker]

5 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

Thanks for your info, very useful to know these things. My Thai Mrs has a friend with a mobile phone shop. He takes part-exchange and we've bought laptops and tablets from him as well as phones. My step-daughter was happy to get my iPhone 7 plus when we upgraded to iPhone 8 plus two years ago. I had an Android phone from same year which even then wouldn't instal the app for my neo-bank. Two years later our iPhone 8's remain good. How much longer remains to be seen but from my experience I will continue buying 5 year old secondhand iPhones.

In general iPhones are supported for double the time that android ones are so something like eight year while the typical android is not more than 4. So as long as it does what you want you are likely to get 3 to 5 years out of a 5 year old secondhand iPhone while the android of the same age may just get 1 year before the banking apps no longer work

 

[NotEinstein]

5 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

In general iPhones are supported for double the time that android ones are so something like eight year while the typical android is not more than 4. So as long as it does what you want you are likely to get 3 to 5 years out of a 5 year old secondhand iPhone while the android of the same age may just get 1 year before the banking apps no longer work

 

Yes, I've been able to use an iPhone 6 up until now - Line and Whatsapp won't work from November, although the UK HMRC app stopped working a couple of years ago due to unable to upgrade IoS. However I've just bought a ZTE A55 for 2,900 baht (actually got 25% shopee coins, so really 2,200) that does everything I need and more for a tenth of the price of an iPhone.