Are cars legally required to stop for a zebra?

[Joinaman]

maybe should carry a brick while crossing, let them see it 

no stop,then a brick through the windscreen, 555

[Photoguy21]

  On 9/21/2024 at 4:39 AM, brianthainess said:

Yes but they don't. 

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I have found that most cars stop but the motor bikes not a chance in hell.

[motdaeng]

  On 10/1/2024 at 6:23 AM, Photoguy21 said:

I have found that most cars stop but the motor bikes not a chance in hell.

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i'm confused. are you talking about thailand, or was that a typo? most cars don't stop at crosswalks either not just bikes ... 

[HuaHinNew]

[digger70]

How do zebra crossings work in Thailand?

Before driving through a zebra crossing, drivers must stop for three metres and wait for pedestrians to cross over a road. Motorists must strictly abide by the traffic rules such as following a traffic light signal. A loss of all 12 points will contribute to a 90-day suspension of a driving licence.Jan 23, 2566 BE

[Gecko]

  On 10/1/2024 at 6:23 AM, Photoguy21 said:

I have found that most cars stop but the motor bikes not a chance in hell.

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if I stop with my motorcycle, I'm quite sure all following cars or motorcycles will not and I bring myself in danger or the pedestrians.

 

[Photoguy21]

  On 10/1/2024 at 6:31 AM, motdaeng said:

 

i'm confused. are you talking about thailand, or was that a typo? most cars don't stop at crosswalks either not just bikes ... 

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Yes I am talking about Thailand.

[Photoguy21]

  On 10/1/2024 at 6:58 AM, Gecko said:

if I stop with my motorcycle, I'm quite sure all following cars or motorcycles will not and I bring myself in danger or the pedestrians.

 

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I have where I live even seen motor cyclists stopping bikes behind them. Strange I know but they are not all idiots, most are however.

[brianthainess]

  On 10/1/2024 at 6:58 AM, Gecko said:

if I stop with my motorcycle, I'm quite sure all following cars or motorcycles will not and I bring myself in danger or the pedestrians.

 

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I agree 

[motdaeng]

  On 10/1/2024 at 7:01 AM, Photoguy21 said:

Yes I am talking about Thailand.

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20 years ago, when i lived in chiang mai, almost no one stopped at pedestrian crossings even with a red traffic light!!!

i strongly suspect this is still the case, and not just in chiang mai ...

 

where do you live, i like to visit your place ... 

 

 

[brianthainess]

  On 10/1/2024 at 6:23 AM, Photoguy21 said:

I have found that most cars stop but the motor bikes not a chance in hell.

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A big MAYBE if it has a red light, and definitely NOT if there are no lights.

[brianthainess]

  On 10/1/2024 at 6:23 AM, Photoguy21 said:

I have found that most cars stop but the motor bikes not a chance in hell.

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[WDSmart]

My understanding is cars are required to stop at a zebra crossing when it is being used by pedestrians. 

[WDSmart]

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[JoergADA]

  On 9/22/2024 at 6:12 AM, connda said:

Are cars legally required to stop for a pedestrian crossing a zebra, or is it "up to them"?

Not unless there is a red light at the crossing.  However, unlike the West, here is Thailand it's a matter of self-preservation.  If you believe you have "the right to have cars stop for you in a crosswalk!," you may find yourself being shipped back to your home country in an urn. 

Even at crosswalk with red lights for oncoming traffic, I always look and keep an eye looking in the periphery of my vision in both directions, even on a one way.  Well - unless you're up to winning a Darwin Award.

By the way, if you really think that you're "In The Right" and insist on walking in front of a vehicle in a crosswalk and get hit and end up in the hospital, unlike the West, you'll more than likely end up paying for most of your own hospital bills and there isn't going to be any civil suit where you get paid for your "pain and suffering."  This ain't Kansas anymore Toto.

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I know of a zebra crossing with traffic light, just for that crossing. 
seen Farangs crossing it while it was on green for traffic…..

 

[brianthainess]

  On 9/21/2024 at 4:42 AM, Will B Good said:

 

 

 

Living in BKK I'm not convinced it is legally required to stop at a red light...... a % of motor cyclists certainly don't think they have to stop.

 

 

 

 

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I agree

[Bday Prang]

  On 9/22/2024 at 5:36 AM, gargamon said:

https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/general/40024294

The new traffic law showed that drivers who do not stop for pedestrians at zebra crossings will be fined 4,000 baht and lose one of their 12 total points, with the loss of all counts resulting in a 90-day suspension of a driving licence.

All driving licence holders will start with 12 points each. If drivers are caught breaking traffic laws, 1-4 points will be reduced depending on their types of violations. 

 

Before driving through a zebra crossing, drivers must stop for three metres and wait for pedestrians to cross over a road. 

Motorists must strictly abide by the traffic rules such as following a traffic light signal. 

A loss of all 12 points will contribute to a 90-day suspension of a driving licence. Motorists who drive while their licence gets suspended will be charged with a maximum of 10,000 baht or/and will face up to three months in prison. 

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So that's the theory,  in practice in the real world it is totally different.  NOBODY but nobody expects you to stop, not the person waiting to cross the road who will probably just stand there staring at you like you are simple,    and definitely not Somchai behind you in his uninsured pick up who will promptly run into the back of your vehicle.   and especially PC plod who will be writing out a ticket for you before he has parked his motorcycle up regardless of you protests

    Exercise extreme caution if considering stopping at a zebra, it might work out quite expensive for you  

[siftasam]

The new traffic law showed that drivers who do not stop for pedestrians at zebra crossings will be fined 4,000 baht and lose one of their 12 total points, with the loss of all counts resulting in a 90-day suspension of a driving licence.

 

Thanks, gargamon.

 

This has been so since 2021 at least. One problem is that motor cycle riders don't think it applies to them!

 

Unenforceable? Sad but I see police completely ignoring law breakers even when they're standing next to a crossing. 

 

Some m/c riders don't like it when I shout to remind them about the fine and hold up 4 fingers to show it.  The are probably ignorant of the law (which in the UK is no defence, of course - but we ain't in the UK, mates!)

 

Point your video at the b#stards - it might (?) make them slow down. I'm an incurable optimist! (OK, some might say a prat!)

[Bday Prang]

  On 10/1/2024 at 6:48 AM, digger70 said:

How do zebra crossings work in Thailand?

Before driving through a zebra crossing, drivers must stop for three metres and wait for pedestrians to cross over a road. Motorists must strictly abide by the traffic rules such as following a traffic light signal. A loss of all 12 points will contribute to a 90-day suspension of a driving licence.Jan 23, 2566 BE

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What does "stop for three metres " mean

[brianthainess]

  On 10/1/2024 at 9:18 AM, WDSmart said:

My understanding is cars are required to stop at a zebra crossing when it is being used by pedestrians. 

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Lots of things are required by law in Thailand but most ignore the rules, you are also required to wear a helmet, have working lights, don't drink and drive, use the left hand lane, indicate when turning or changing lanes, stop at stop at stop signs, drive on the left hand side of the road, do not speed, stop at the scean of an accident, don't carry a gun or big knife in public, your lucky if they even have a license, the list is pretty much endless. It summary ALL traffic laws are ignored, the fines are small, and the cops don't do their job.

[siftasam]

I believe the 2021 Road Traffic Act said that drivers must stop if a person actually puts a foot on the crossing.

 

It doesn't help when condo etc. car park attendants allow cars to drive over the zebras while they wait to help you across (even if you're standing on the zebra). They mean well and I thank them but it's not the correct way to help with the problem.

[Bday Prang]

  On 10/1/2024 at 9:54 AM, siftasam said:

Some m/c riders don't like it when I shout to remind them about the fine and hold up 4 fingers to show it.  The are probably ignorant of the law (which in the UK is no defence, of course - but we ain't in the UK, mates!)

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And as we are not in the UK   it is probably not the best Idea to go  shouting  at passing motorcyclists and waving your fists in a way that could be misinterpreted. You say that you know they don't like it , yet you presumably continue to do it,    One day somchai will turn around  with 5 of his mates and kick the $hit out of you.  

  On 10/1/2024 at 9:54 AM, siftasam said:

(OK, some might say a prat!)

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 With a pretty good chance of becoming a dead prat  if you continue with such behaviour 

[brianthainess]

  On 10/1/2024 at 10:05 AM, Bday Prang said:

And as we are not in the UK   it is probably not the best Idea to go  shouting  at passing motorcyclists and waving your fists in a way that could be misinterpreted. You say that you know they don't like it , yet you presumably continue to do it,    One day somchai will turn around  with 5 of his mates and kick the $hit out of you.  

 With a pretty good chance of becoming a dead prat  if you continue with such behaviour 

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Agree..........lucky he hasn't been shot yet. 

[WDSmart]

  On 10/1/2024 at 9:57 AM, brianthainess said:

  On 10/1/2024 at 9:18 AM, WDSmart said:

My understanding is cars are required to stop at a zebra crossing when it is being used by pedestrians. 

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Lots of things are required by law in Thailand but most ignore the rules, you are also required to wear a helmet, have working lights, don't drink and drive, use the left hand lane, indicate when turning or changing lanes, stop at stop at stop signs, drive on the left hand side of the road, do not speed, stop at the scean of an accident, don't carry a gun or big knife in public, your lucky if they even have a license, the list is pretty much endless. It summary ALL traffic laws are ignored, the fines are small, and the cops don't do their job.

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The question was whether or not cars were required to stop a zebra crossing. Just because I believe they are doesn't mean I'll risk my life by walking out onto the street in a zebra crossing and believing the cars will stop. If I am driving, I will stop. If I am a pedestrian, I will slowly start onto the zebra crossing while cautiously watching the oncoming traffic

[digger70]

  On 10/1/2024 at 9:56 AM, Bday Prang said:

What does "stop for three metres " mean.

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It looks like it means stop 3 meters Before the Zebra crossing.

[Bday Prang]

  On 10/1/2024 at 6:19 AM, Joinaman said:

maybe should carry a brick while crossing, let them see it 

no stop,then a brick through the windscreen, 555

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Another one forgetting where,  and what, he is  ,try it and see what happens

[xtrnuno41]

https://www.motorist.co.th/en/article/2238/crosswalk-laws-everyone-should-know

 

Crosswalk Regulations for Drivers

• When encountering a crosswalk, drivers must slow down and prepare to stop for pedestrians.
• It is prohibited to park on the crosswalk lines, and vehicles must be parked at least 3 metres away from the crosswalk. Violations can result in a fine of up to 1,000 baht.
• If a vehicle collides with a pedestrian on the crosswalk and causes injury or death, additional penalties will apply. 

 

IF you like to see some more regulations and have some time:

https://royalthaipolice.go.th/downloads/laws/laws_03_05-07.pdf

 

In Thailand now, I watch what is behind me and what is pedestrians body language. 

As I several times stopped for crossings, it is in my system, then I was overtaken on the other lane by a Thai who dont comply with rules. The Thai people know, they ignore you (stopped) but are watching for the other cars to come and mostly they are not obeying rules.

It is for me ...annoying and mostly I speak out words which arent nice. But also do when some Thai crosses a section diagonally and the light for me to turn is green. Just happened once, happily. 

However in "my country" you still also have to be aware, as cars MUST stop for crossings.

Even if pedestrians are about 2 meters away from crossing. You already MUST stop.

But same a ...es, as in Thailand.

Also watch out in bends, my wife told me, Thai people go in on left lane and in the bend they change to right lane, to make a straight line. And they do it, just like that. Experienced it 2 times. 

 

[still kicking]

  On 9/22/2024 at 5:26 AM, Will B Good said:

 

 

My first wife was Serbian.....b****y nightmare.

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Love Serbian food