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3 hours ago, anrcaccount said:

Here's what the user reports: 

Been to 2 different Regional tax offices. (just last week), Both had to phone head office in Bangkok. ALL knew nothing about taxing foreigners. All asked what visa I was on, I said LTR, ALL replied " no tax on retirement pensions".  They checked all my paper work I had taken, House agreement, passport, paper work from pensions department UK, UK tax code, Military pension paperwork. Thai bank statements, They had no idea of what to do with it. I asked if i needed a tax code, they laughed and said, no, you not pay Thai tax.

 

What user?  What thread? What regional tax offices?

 

My experience with Phuket regional tax office, is they never heard of an LTR visa.

 

When (Phuket regional tax office) were asked if I would need to submit a Thai tax return and possibly pay tax on pension income brought in to Thailand (with my being on an LTR visa) they stated they would check and phone back. 

 

They never phoned back.

 

I will be most curious to see what the tax form for 2024-tax year looks like when it comes out ( in  November/December) ?

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News about the new tax regulations has been circulating conspicuously for over a year. In that year there have been numerous news articles, seminars, official documents and videos explaining what is involved, including reporting of statements made by the head of the TRD in Bangkok. There have also been many first hand reports of interactions with TRD and their responses to different questions, many of which have reaffirmed what is commonly understood by many on this forum.

 

Bearing in mind this is Thailand, where natives will almost certainly give a wrong answer before giving no answer, or saying “I don’t know”. And where answers given in remote local tax offices will almost certainly differ with those given in Bangkok, I find it very difficult to believe that, given the above, two regional tax offices and two separate contacts with TRD Head Office, all yielded, “I don’t know anything about this new tax issue”, answers. I have asked the poster for clarification regarding which offices etc but have not received any answers.

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, chiang mai said:

all you are able to do is attack anything I contribute.

Not everything. Sometimes your presentations make sense.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, JimGant said:

Not everything. Sometimes your presentations make sense.

Well, either behaviours change for the better and the sniping/attacks/baiting/stalking ends,  permanently or one of us goes and I have zero problem if that's me. 

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Posted
39 minutes ago, oldcpu said:

 

What user?  What thread? What regional tax offices?

 

This thread, page 89. 

 

User name "Lopburikid"

 

The reply had hidden the report which is why I reposted it. 

 

39 minutes ago, oldcpu said:

 

My experience with Phuket regional tax office, is they never heard of an LTR visa.

 

When (Phuket regional tax office) were asked if I would need to submit a Thai tax return and possibly pay tax on pension income brought in to Thailand (with my being on an LTR visa) they stated they would check and phone back. 

 

They never phoned back.

 

I will be most curious to see what the tax form for 2024-tax year looks like when it comes out ( in  November/December) ?

 

Thanks for the real world report. 

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I was trying to imagine an alternate case scenario whereby TRD decided to suspend Por 161 and effectively revert to the previous  interpretation of the remittance rule. This would mean income earned overseas  could be seasoned offshore until the following tax year and then remitted to Thailand free of tax.

 

Why might that happen? Perhaps TRD might prefer to wait until the worldwide income law was passed and then do a single implementation of the new law. To be clear, I have no reason to think TRD might do this, more I was brainstorming alternate scenarios.

 

But let's say they went down that road, what would be the impact? There would of course be a collective sigh of relief and lots of "I told you so" but there would also be  quite a few new tax filers next January, especially those who have income remitted to Thailand each month in order to qualify for their visa.  So for some there would be  a temporary escape, others would continue down this same road we're on currently because the need to file tax returns here has risen dramatically in the past year. The bottom line is that even if nothing further happens with the new laws, TRD and tax collection will be further ahead.

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If you are married and wife files taxes including you - the Farang hubby as a dependant, does this qualify as filing a tax return?

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2 hours ago, chiang mai said:
2 hours ago, JimGant said:

Not everything. Sometimes your presentations make sense.

Well, either behaviours change for the better and the sniping/attacks/baiting/stalking ends,  permanently or one of us goes and I have zero problem if that's me. 

Huh? My "sometimes your presentations make sense" was characterized as a "sniping/attacks/baiting/stalking" occurrence? I would suggest a prozac, as you seem to be overly sensitive to observations that counter yours. But, I guess, that statement represents "sniping" -- and subject to removal. Sad that an intense "back and forth" is not allowed on this forum -- at least between some personalities. Ho hum.

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5 hours ago, chiang mai said:

Well, either behaviours change for the better and the sniping/attacks/baiting/stalking ends,  permanently or one of us goes and I have zero problem if that's me. 

Chiang Mai, no one is stalking you here IMHO. Just relax please, this is a forum with different opinions. Me for a part I can still remember where you provided good info on the exchange rates, so I am not one sided and so are most of the posters here.

 

 

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Never ceases to amaze me that a difference in opinion is construed by some as baiting, stalking etc

 

Anyway there is a mute function so you could never be stalked as you could mute the other guy/gal.

 

 

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2 hours ago, stat said:

Never ceases to amaze me that a difference in opinion is construed by some as baiting, stalking etc

 

Anyway there is a mute function so you could never be stalked as you could mute the other guy/gal.

 

 

Indeed, truly shocking is it not! 

 

You'll all need to find a new lightening rod to keep you entertained.

 

 

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On 10/14/2024 at 1:57 AM, KhunHeineken said:

Maybe the first time you will encounter a problem will be at a boarder, trying to leave, after being inside Thailand for more than 180 days. 

 

Do let us know if you still managed to catch your flight.  :smile:

 

Did you ever consider you MAY need a document from the TRD showing your pension is a government service pension, thus covered under a DTA? 

Well I’ve always said that if the RD links passport to exit stamp, then I  would have to do something. Staying reasonably aware of such developments means that is unlikely that I would be caught out at airport. Has anyone ever been stopped because they don’t have tax ID? I know some have been stopped because they’re flagged for audit but they have been lodging returns. As far as getting a document from the TRD about my pension, I think you’re dreaming. What, I should just waltz in there and demand it?

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24 minutes ago, Lopburikid said:

Were you there when they telephoned the Bangkok office? I WAS! Pathumthani and Thanyaburi ,as Where I live could be classed as either, one side of klong 6 comes under Thanyaburi postal code and the other side comes under Pathumthani postal code. IF you don't believe me, take all your documents to either one and ask them!

If you say so. It just seems hard to imagine that after one year of constant media coverage, almost everyone in the country knows about this tax change but the Head Office of the TRD doesn't  But hey, I really don't care so don't get excited. 

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On 10/13/2024 at 10:25 PM, Bluetongue said:

I’m glad that in the thousands of pages I’m still no clearer, I’m waiting for what I don’t know. What I do know is that I won’t be running into a RD office begging to pay tax on money that is either savings or as I believe a government service pension exempted by a DTA despite what some spiv working for some supposed expat accountant says

exactly right!  But in a lot of those early pages, I was totally ignorant of the wording of the DTA, where to find out its location, plus after reading a lot of the notes on the Thai Revenue Dept website (learned about on this forum's pages too), i became positive about my finances and taxes here and totally relaxed once that happened so, I do thank all you folks out there who spent time with us more ignorant folks to bring us up to date on the Thai taxation schemes.  NOW, if only we can get the Thai revenue dept and govt offices responsible, to let us know via the gazette exactly what new rules there are if any at all.  WHo know, we just might have an even newer govt with no desires to come after the expats but instead will do like other counries that actually want long term expats to spend their money there, i..e Philippines, Panama, et.al.  I do thank all of you for your input to the different situations that provided any input at all.

Best of luck in this taxation scheme (s).

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I've started a number of prominent threads over the years, Doctors and Medical Specialists in Chiang Mai was one that was very successful. I also started the first Bank Interest Rate thread which I'm pleased to see has had several successor and the 2023 version is still running. I've learned over the years that trying to build something useful on TVF or its successor means having to tolerate a lot of trolls and idiots, usually people who have never constructed anything useful to help others anywhere.

 

And so it continues.

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Yet again I have to remove a post that instead of discussing the topic just makes a personal accusation.

 

@JimGant you choose to ignore my previous moderator comments about discussing the topic and not just having an obsession with making personal accusations. So please accept this as a final warning as next time you will be getting a suspension from the site.

 

Reminder of rule  31. You will not publicly discuss other members or post any member's personal information including but not limited to  emails, social media messages, private messages, photos or website details. 

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15 minutes ago, chiang mai said:

I've started a number of prominent threads over the years, Doctors and Medical Specialists in Chiang Mai was one that was very successful. I also started the first Bank Interest Rate thread which I'm pleased to see has had several successor and the 2023 version is still running. I've learned over the years that trying to build something useful on TVF or its successor means having to tolerate a lot of trolls and idiots, usually people who have never constructed anything useful to help others anywhere.

 

And so it continues.

There's still a way to go in order to - maybe - learn to accept others' different opinion instead of calling names.

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1 minute ago, Yumthai said:

There's still a way to go in order to - maybe - learn to accept others' different opinion instead of calling names.

I'm perfectly happy with others expressing their opinions, collaboration and exchange is what this is all about. BUT what it's not all about is being pursued seven days a week by a tag team on shifts, all trying to attack from any angle they can see an opening and NOT ONE OF THEM providing any useful constructive material or assistance by way of input. How many months has this been going on now, just ask yourself that.

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