Popular Post Social Media Posted September 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 24, 2024 Labour has unveiled a new policy aimed at tackling street crime, set to take effect in 2025, which will introduce "respect orders" to curb anti-social behavior in town centres. The move is part of a broader effort to address what the party describes as street crime "corroding the fabric of our communities." The plan will be officially presented by the Shadow Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper, at Labour's upcoming conference in Liverpool. The "respect orders" are designed to target individuals responsible for persistent anti-social behavior, such as habitual street drinkers, drug users, and shoplifters. These offenders will face restrictions that ban them from town centres. "Respect orders" will be issued by a civil court to expedite the process, but violating the order will constitute a criminal offence. The rollout of these orders will be phased in, beginning in 2025. Yvette Cooper is expected to emphasize how the policy aims to make town centres safer for all. “This sort of behaviour is corroding the fabric of our communities," she will say, referring to the damage caused by habitual offenders to public spaces. By targeting the most prolific offenders, Labour hopes to restore a sense of security to urban areas affected by street crime. In addition to the respect orders, Labour plans to introduce a range of complementary measures designed to address the growing concerns around public safety. One such proposal is allowing the police to seize and destroy dangerous off-road bikes without the need for a prior warning, a change that will streamline the current system and provide police with greater power to act swiftly. The introduction of this measure aims to tackle the rise in incidents involving reckless and illegal off-road biking, which has been a growing problem in certain regions. Another significant reform that will be put forward is the creation of a new standalone offence for assaults against shop workers. This move comes in response to a spike in violent incidents faced by retail employees, often linked to shoplifting and anti-social behaviour. The proposal reflects Labour’s focus on protecting essential workers who have increasingly found themselves on the front lines of such encounters. Labour’s new initiatives reflect a broader effort to address public dissatisfaction with law and order policies and come at a time when concerns about street crime, particularly in urban centres, are growing. The hope is that these measures will offer tangible improvements in the daily lives of people who frequent town centres and help restore public confidence in law enforcement. With respect orders, increased police powers, and new protections for workers, Labour is positioning itself as the party determined to address anti-social behaviour and street crime head-on. These plans aim to send a clear message that offenders will face consequences, while the safety and wellbeing of communities will take priority in public policy. Based on a report from: Sky News 2024-09-25 1 3
Popular Post JonnyF Posted September 25, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 25, 2024 5 hours ago, Social Media said: The "respect orders" are designed to target individuals responsible for persistent anti-social behavior, such as habitual street drinkers, drug users, and shoplifters. Not to mention being "openly Jewish", "in possession of a St.George cross", "under suspicion of patriotism" etc. I'd be very wary of increasing police powers under this Labour government, especially in London where Sadiq Khan heads up The Met. Very, very dangerous proposal in the wrong hands. Which it will be. 9 1 1 4
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted September 25, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 25, 2024 21 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Not to mention being "openly Jewish", "in possession of a St.George cross", "under suspicion of patriotism" etc. I'd be very wary of increasing police powers under this Labour government, especially in London where Sadiq Khan heads up The Met. Very, very dangerous proposal in the wrong hands. Which it will be. Actually no, not mentioned at all. You made it up yourself. 1 1 3 1 1
JonnyF Posted September 25, 2024 Posted September 25, 2024 13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Actually no, not mentioned at all. You made it up yourself. It would be unwise to mention it, that would highlight the fact they already did it. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68856360 1 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted September 25, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 25, 2024 32 minutes ago, JonnyF said: It would be unwise to mention it, that would highlight the fact they already did it. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68856360 So absolutely nothing to do with this proposed legislation then. 1 1 1 1 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted September 25, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 25, 2024 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: So absolutely nothing to do with this proposed legislation then. Just giving the police more powers so they can continue with such action without having to apologize for it next time. They can claim the Jew was not folliwing this new "respect orders" move (could they make it sound any more authoritarian I wonder? 😄). They already have the powers to deal with the offenses mentioned in the OP. For example, shoplifting is already a crime. Just enforce existing laws equally across all groups and drop the two tier policing. 1 3 1 1 1 2
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted September 25, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 25, 2024 28 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Just giving the police more powers so they can continue with such action without having to apologize for it next time. They can claim the Jew was not folliwing this new "respect orders" move (could they make it sound any more authoritarian I wonder? 😄). They already have the powers to deal with the offenses mentioned in the OP. For example, shoplifting is already a crime. Just enforce existing laws equally across all groups and drop the two tier policing. The defense of fiction and hyperbole is not more fiction and more hyperbole. 1 1 1 1 1
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted September 25, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 25, 2024 Labour totally out of touch with the common people. Common people want these people locked up away from society, That said, I am quite up for 'The Stocks' to be reintroduced to embarass these thugs into oblivion 2 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted September 25, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 25, 2024 8 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: That said, I am quite up for 'The Stocks' to be reintroduced to embarass these thugs into oblivion I'd settle for thugs being charged. Unfortunately, certain groups are treated differently under 2 tier Keir, for example the thugs who broke the female police officers nose at Manchester Airport that still haven't been charged. I wonder why? The FaceBook posters were in jail within a week. I guess hurty words are deemed more important than hurty broken noses, depending on who is dishing out the hurt of course. 1 2 2 1
portisaacozzy Posted September 25, 2024 Posted September 25, 2024 6 hours ago, JonnyF said: do you have an alternative ? Not to mention being "openly Jewish", "in possession of a St.George cross", "under suspicion of patriotism" etc. I'd be very wary of increasing police powers under this Labour government, especially in London where Sadiq Khan heads up The Met. Very, very dangerous proposal in the wrong hands. Which it will be.
herfiehandbag Posted September 25, 2024 Posted September 25, 2024 Shoplifting (theft) is a crime. The laws to prosecute it exist. Assault on a shop worker is fully covered by the laws on assault. It is a crime. The laws to prosecute it exist. Riding illegal motorcycles on the roads is a crime. The laws to prosecute it already exist. The Police need to enforce the existing laws. If, as they will no doubt claim, they do not have the resources to enforce them, then introducing a whole new tier ( sorry, but it is the word, for some reason, which springs to mind) of offences, court orders and supervision with the associated bureaucracy and further demand on resources, is not going to help at all! And, as has been pointed out, it will give the Police much more lassitude in deciding who, individuals or groups, to target, and for what. Given the current lack of confidence in our policing, driven by a very real perception that different groups in our society are policed rather differently, it is unlikely to end well.
Nick Carter icp Posted September 25, 2024 Posted September 25, 2024 How are these different to the ASBOs ? The Anti Social behavioural orders ?
RayC Posted September 26, 2024 Posted September 26, 2024 Perhaps it might be best to wait until the exact scope and contents of this proposed new bill are known before criticising it and/or deciding that it isn't fit for purpose.
JonnyF Posted September 27, 2024 Posted September 27, 2024 On 9/25/2024 at 10:34 PM, herfiehandbag said: The Police need to enforce the existing laws. If, as they will no doubt claim, they do not have the resources to enforce them, then introducing a whole new tier ( sorry, but it is the word, for some reason, which springs to mind) of offences, court orders and supervision with the associated bureaucracy and further demand on resources, is not going to help at all! Exactly. The trouble is, it's much easier sitting at the station with a hot cup of coffee scolling through FaceBook looking for veterans making jokes in poor taste ("causing anxiety") about LGBT than it is tackling shoplifting, assault, illegal riding of dirtbikes etc. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11066477/Veteran-arrested-causing-anxiety-retweeting-meme-swastika-Pride-flags.html What a time to be alive! 😃
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