'Damning non-answer': Vance refuses to acknowledge Trump lost the 2020 election

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

JD Vance dodged questions about Jan. 6 and claimed social media censorship was "a bigger threat to democracy" than anything in the past 40 years in his debate with Tim Walz.

 

Oct. 2, 2024

 

Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance refused to acknowledge that Donald Trump lost the 2020 presidential election during the vice presidential debate Tuesday and downplayed the seriousness of the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, which injured more than 140 law enforcement officers.

 

He also declined to say whether he would seek to challenge the results of this year's election.

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Walz noted that the reason former Vice President Mike Pence — who was the target of "hang Mike Pence" chants from pro-Trump rioters who invaded the Capitol in 2021 — wasn't on the debate stage is that he refused to overturn the election on Trump's behalf.

 

(more)

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/damning-non-answer-vance-refuses-acknowledge-trump-lost-2020-election-rcna173569

 

 

One of the rules about being on Team Trump is those people have to swallow and support his ridiculous lies, no many how many times they've been proven false. To be part of Team Trump means you lose your soul, any sense of self-respect, and any regard for the truth.

 

 

[Danderman123]

Most of the Trumpers here won't answer the question, either.

[Danderman123]

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Former RNC Chair Michael Steele on Vance's refusal to reject Trump's 2020 stolen election lies -- says it makes Vance "unfit for office."

 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Hanaguma]

36 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Most of the Trumpers here won't answer the question, either.

I will 

 

He lost. Should just admit it and move on.  Other issues are more important and helpful to win this time.

[candide]

37 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Most of the Trumpers here won't answer the question, either.

Not sure. They have plenty of ridiculous conspiracy theories at their disposal, as usual!

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

The only moment from the VP debate that mattered

Vance’s “damning non-answer” on the 2020 election exposed the true stakes for democracy in 2024.

 

Oct 2, 2024

 

At the end of the vice presidential debate, Gov. Tim Walz asked Sen. JD Vance a pointed question: Did Donald Trump lose the 2020 election? Vance’s response: “Tim, I’m focused on the future. Did Kamala Harris censor Americans from speaking their mind in the wake of the 2020 Covid situation?”

 

There is a clear right answer — that the 2020 presidential election was in fact legitimate — and Vance refused to offer it. It was, as Walz immediately noted, “A damning non-answer,” one that showed viewers who JD Vance is and what he stands for.

 

Ultimately, every issue discussed earlier that night comes in second to the fundamental question of whether America’s democratic institutions deserve to endure. On that question, Vance truly is radical, and his exposure as such was the only truly important moment of the night.

 

https://www.vox.com/politics/375285/vp-debate-vance-walz-democracy-2020-who-won

 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

From the Hollywood Reporter on Walz' comments and challenge to Vance:

 

"Walz later brought up the fact that Trump’s attempts to overthrow the results of the 2020 election and the subsequent actions of Vice President Mike Pence were ultimately the very reason that Vance was standing across from him on Tuesday night. 

 

“When Mike Pence made the decision to certify that election, that’s why Mike Pence isn’t on this stage,” Walz said. “What I’m concerned about is: where is the firewall with Donald Trump? If he knows he could do anything, including taking an election and his vice president’s not going to stand to it, that’s what we’re asking you, America: will you stand by your oath of office, even if the President doesn’t?”
 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/vice-president-debate-tim-walz-jd-vance-trump-jan-6-election-lies-1236019582/

 

Edited 10 hours ago by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

The video exchange excerpt between Walz and Vance over the stolen election lies:

 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/walz-presses-vance-on-jan-6-and-2020-election-loss-220632133537

 

Edited 10 hours ago by TallGuyJohninBKK

[watthong]

Interesting that one of the words came out of Vance's mouth in response was "Censorship!" - to excuse his "damning non-answer." Then the refusal to engage, "We've talked about it, I'm happy to talk about it further - " but not right now, not right here at the debate, right Vance?

 

It's Vance's own "Haitians are eating dogs and cats" moment. That question shouldn't have caught him off-guard. Or maybe he didn't prep, a la  Trump?

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Vance has been a willing and active echo chamber for all of Trump's most recent notable and well documented lies:

 

--the [not] stolen 2020 presidential election

 

--Haitians immigrants [not] eating stolen dogs and cats

 

--the false claims about vast numbers of undocumented resident/criminals running loose because of the Biden admin.

 

And that's just the short list.... Vance has been an active participant and in some cases instigator of them.

 

JD Vance spreads debunked claims about Haitian immigrants eating pets

September 10, 2024

 

"Vance, who represents Ohio in the U.S. Senate, spread a debunked claim about Haitian migrants living in the city of Springfield, Ohio, on Monday, accusing them of abducting pets and eating them.

 

The claim, which local police say is baseless, was made by far-right activists, local Republicans and neo-Nazis before being picked up by Vance."

 

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/10/nx-s1-5107320/jd-vance-springfield-ohio-haitians-pets

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by TallGuyJohninBKK

[impulse]

9 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Most of the Trumpers here won't answer the question, either.

 

70% of Repubs, 53% of Independents and millions of Dems still doubted the results as late as 2023.  Lot of us still do.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/03/politics/cnn-poll-republicans-think-2020-election-illegitimate/index.html

 

But then, HRC is still claiming 2016 was stolen.

 

Edited 2 hours ago by impulse

[mdr224]

I think the last election wasnt legit. I dont think its legit this time either, but as trump says, make it TOO BIG TO RIG. trump in a landslide would make a statement to the MSM that they have no power

[Danderman123]

6 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

70% of Repubs, 53% of Independents and millions of Dems still doubted the results as late as 2023.  Lot of us still do.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/03/politics/cnn-poll-republicans-think-2020-election-illegitimate/index.html

 

But then, HRC is still claiming 2016 was stolen.

 

Please provide a link where Hillary alleges voter fraud in 2016.

 

As for crazy people who believed Trump, that's a reflection on their intelligence.

 

I'm sure you never believed Rudy's crazy lies.

[Danderman123]

1 minute ago, mdr224 said:

I think the last election wasnt legit. I dont think its legit this time either, but as trump says, make it TOO BIG TO RIG. trump in a landslide would make a statement to the MSM that they have no power

What grade are you in?

[mdr224]

9 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

What grade are you in?

As if im giving info to the forums resident chinese bot