Escalation could lead to disaster and Trump is being irresponsible injecting himself into the situation.

4 hours ago, 300sd said:

I tend to agree with Trump. Perhaps no one noticed that recent video on a news outlet showing masses of Iranian's shouting "death to America." Israel will be doing the world a favour destroying Iran's nuclear capacity which the Biden admin has allowed to progress. A country that proves it's behind terrorism should never be allowed to possess nuclear weapons.

 A country that proves it's behind terrorism should never be allowed to possess nuclear weapons. And would that also apply to Israel and/or the USA.

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

 

The designation of  Jerusalem as Israel's capital for some Islamic nations is that they refuse to recognize the  state of Israel. For others, it is linked to their positions on the final status of the Palestinian territories. Jerusalem has been documented as the capital of the Israelites since King David designated  it the  capital city of Israel in 1003 BC, 1613 years before the invention of Islam. Even in 1948, the modern state of Israel incluuded much of Jerusalem. West Jerusalem had been  controlled by  Jordan who refused access to the Jewish religious sites to the jew despite there being an agreement to do so. Had, Jordan not attacked Israel in 1967, the west Bank and West Jerusalem might still be  managed by Jordan.

 

 

Oh really 🤔 

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Well, it just shows there is one rules for one, and another set of rules for the other half. 

 

The charges we'll placed, but thats how it is. 

 

He have targeted civilians and civilian infrastructure, so how come you in your opinion should not be charged? 

no, it has been alleged by western reports and denied by the Russian side.  but you are right, 'rules for thee, not for me' 
Israel is allowed to do pretty much what ever it likes and nothing is done about because it has US backing. 

 

were they not just offered a UN resolution to the current situation but refused. seems like they don't want peace

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

no, it has been alleged by western reports and denied by the Russian side.  but you are right, 'rules for thee, not for me' 
Israel is allowed to do pretty much what ever it likes and nothing is done about because it has US backing. 

 

were they not just offered a UN resolution to the current situation but refused. seems like they don't want peace

Nicks Carters Russian brother?

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Nicks Carters Russian brother?

Nope, but yeah, i support Putin,  if thats what you mean, its quite clear by my posts. 

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Nope, but yeah, i support Putin,  if thats what you mean, its quite clear by my posts. 

Then you believe Russian media? Putin have not dropped bombs on civilians? 

13 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Then you believe Russian media? Putin have not dropped bombs on civilians? 

 

   30 000 Ukrainian civilians have been killed/wounded  by Russian forces in the war

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   30 000 Ukrainian civilians have been killed/wounded  by Russian forces in the war

A little less than Gaza then, or same Sam. It will add up the next week's from Lebanon 

30 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Nicks Carters Russian brother?

 

  Why did you say that ?

I don't recall ever mentioning the war in Russia before  . let alone supporting Russia 

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

A little less than Gaza then, or same Sam. It will add up the next week's from Lebanon 

 

  Nope, quite a bit more than in Gaza

6 hours ago, Hummin said:

Then you believe Russian media? Putin have not dropped bombs on civilians? 

i don't believe he has purposely targeted them, no.  deaths are not good regardless, but i have said previously Boris Johnson, flew to Kiev in April 22 and put a stop to the arranged peace talks, the war could have been over nearly 2 years ago.

12 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

i don't believe he has purposely targeted them, no.  deaths are not good regardless, but i have said previously Boris Johnson, flew to Kiev in April 22 and put a stop to the arranged peace talks, the war could have been over nearly 2 years ago.

Peace talks? Putins demands do you mean? 

 

Just for the sale of good, can you post Putins demands? Does the original list of demands exists? 

 

 

12 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Peace talks? Putins demands do you mean? 

 

Just for the sale of good, can you post Putins demands? Does the original list of demands exists? 

 

 

 

no, i dont know what was on offer, nobody got to find out due to Boris, even if i !spent time searching RT to find out, i am not allowed to post it here as nothing other than western links are accepted

9 hours ago, frank83628 said:

no, it has been alleged by western reports and denied by the Russian side.  but you are right, 'rules for thee, not for me' 
Israel is allowed to do pretty much what ever it likes and nothing is done about because it has US backing. 

 

were they not just offered a UN resolution to the current situation but refused. seems like they don't want peace

You mean like the resolution that recognized the State of Israel that neither Hamas nor Hezbollah accept? You do understand why they chant from the River to the Sea, don't you? It is because they do not accept the existence of the state of Israel. Both are pledged to the destruction of Israel. It is impossible to have peace with people who want you dead no matter what.

I would like to see Iran's nuclear capabilities taken out but I don't pretend to understand the logistics or risks of doing that.

Edited October 5, 20241 yr by Jingthing

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I would like to see Iran's nuclear capabilities taken out but I don't pretend to understand the logistics or risks of doing that.

Well that's hardly surprising. 

Trump warmongering.

 

His supporters, both foreign and domestic, will struggle to deny that, but they will try.

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump warmongering.

 

His supporters, both foreign and domestic, will struggle to deny that, but they will try.

Seems like an act to prevent war to me. There were no wars with trump. The world went to <deleted> after he left the white house

1 minute ago, mdr224 said:

Seems like an act to prevent war to me. There were no wars with trump. The world went to <deleted> after he left the white house

Well that didn’t take long for me to be proved correct.

On 10/4/2024 at 5:56 PM, Yagoda said:

I disagree with Don. Here is what should be done.

 

1.  Take out Irans Air Defenses, that should take a few hours.

 

2.  Drop leaflets telling Iranians that they have no air defenses, that they are a sitting duck, and they should rise up against the IRG and the Mad Mullahs.

 

3. Assuming disturbances start, have Azeribaijan move to protect all of the Azeris in Northern Iran.

 

4. If that doesnt occur, take out their oil terminal. Then drop more leaflets.

 

If they launch any missles, take out the IRG.

 

All of the above should take a week or so.

Yet another war.

 

The best way to keep the Mullahs in power is to attack Iran.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Well that didn’t take long for me to be proved correct.

Do you take satisfaction from the lefts incompetence?

3 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Seems like an act to prevent war to me. There were no wars with trump. The world went to <deleted> after he left the white house

Plenty of wars when Trump was in power.

Thank God that Biden is the President and not Trump. Trump will lead the world to a nuclear war with his reckless and thoughtless foreign policy decisions if he ever become President again. He simply is unfit for the highest office in the land. 

7 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Do you take satisfaction from the lefts incompetence?

What?

 

Is that a defense of Trump warmongering?

The Case for Destroying Iran’s Nuclear Program Now

Indeed, now is an ideal opportunity to destroy Iran’s nuclear program. The country’s breakout time to a bomb is down to one to two weeks. There is no new nuclear deal in the cards. Hamas and Hezbollah are in no position to retaliate. And the Islamic Republic just asked for it. In fact, this may be the last best chance to keep Tehran from the bomb.

Skeptics of military action have raised several major objections, but conditions have changed in recent weeks and months—and all of the previous obstacles to military action have melted away.

https://archive.ph/ecHxQ

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/10/03/israel-iran-nuclear-weapons-biden-netanyahu-destroy-now/

 

Biden-Harris should help destroy Iran’s nuclear and missile infrastructure

The mass murder of 1,200 Jews and capture of 250 more hostages, including Americans among the dead and captive, followed by Tehran unleashing a war on seven fronts — from Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Judea and Samaria and Iran itself — still did not force any changes in US strategy. Waivers issued to give Iran access to cash were renewed. Oil sanctions remained unenforced. And the international missile embargo on Iran was allowed to expire despite the US and its closest allies having the power to maintain it by simply sending a letter to the UN Security Council.

https://thespectator.com/topic/biden-harris-should-help-destroy-irans-nuclear-and-missile-infrastructure/

 

There’ll never be a better time to destroy Iran’s nuclear weapons programme

Iran is the source of many of the Middle East’s troubles, and its terror proxies have destabilised Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon for decades, while remaining in constant conflict with Israel. However, with Hezbollah now severely weakened by Israeli intelligence and military operations, Tehran’s strategy of forward defence and attack is looking increasingly fragile. Having launched more than 500 missiles and drones at Israel with virtually no effect, Iran’s options for escalation are limited.

If ever there were a time to neutralise Iran’s nuclear research and development facilities, therefore, it is now – when they cannot use them to escalate the conflict with Israel. At this stage, the fallout would be limited, and far less damaging than bombing Iran’s oil infrastructure, which could contaminate the Gulf for years.

https://archive.ph/qOut3

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/04/never-be-a-better-time-to-destroy-irans-nuclear-weapons/

 

Iran Opens the Door to Retaliation Its nuclear and military assets are fair game after another attack on Israel.

If there were ever cause to target Iran’s nuclear facilities, this is it. Iran has shown that it might well use a bomb if it’s acquired, and Tehran would certainly use it as deterrent cover for conventional and terrorist attacks on Israel, Sunni Arab states and perhaps the U.S. Iran is closer than ever to a nuclear weapon and won’t stop itself. The question for American and Israeli leaders is: If not now, when?

https://archive.ph/Ce0AO

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/iran-missile-attack-israel-benjamin-netanyahu-hezbollah-biden-lloyd-austin-c33889c5

 

 

Israel woumd be doing a public service to the world if tbey can pull that off.

Trump may be right this time.

Weird considerimg how wrong he is about Russia, close ally of Iran.

3 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Thank God that Biden is the President and not Trump. Trump will lead the world to a nuclear war with his reckless and thoughtless foreign policy decisions if he ever become President again. He simply is unfit for the highest office in the land. 

 

   Wouldn't stopping Iran getting Nuclear weapons avert a Nuclear war ?

16 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Wouldn't stopping Iran getting Nuclear weapons avert a Nuclear war ?

He should have stuck to the Iran deal in stead of listening to Benny.

The present mess is for a major part his responsibility.

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

He should have stuck to the Iran deal in stead of listening to Benny.

The present mess is for a major part his responsibility.

 

   We are talking about the present , rather than the past