Could an October Surprise Shift the Deadlocked Trump-Harris Race?

[thaibeachlovers]

On 10/8/2024 at 1:46 PM, morrobay said:

Good post impulse ,∆∆ . Like I said all the mumbo jumbo in the world from " these people" does not change the facts. The wheels are coming off the Harris campaign as the population is finally starting to  see just who the **** she really is.  This election is going to be too big to rig.

Expect the usual suspects claiming that that was an AI modified photo and in fact Trump only had 2 old men that wandered into the wrong arena and a dog in his audience.

 

I'm still waiting for a certain poster to admit that a photo he submitted of a hall with hardly any people, when I responded with a more accurate photo of a packed hall, was of before the rally started.

[nauseus]

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The latter IMO.

 

Good answer.

[thaibeachlovers]

I'm still waiting for an explanation from a Harris supporter as to why she is still not well ahead of the worst man on the planet ( as they like to describe Trump ).

[Eric Loh]

38 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm still waiting for an explanation from a Harris supporter as to why she is still not well ahead of the worst man on the planet ( as they like to describe Trump ).

It is actually quite simple explanation. Trump announced his candidacy on 15 Nov 2022 and started campaigning. Harris nomination was in August 5 2024 and in a short month has regained the loss momentum of Biden and gradually gaining grounds on Trump. So the question is really why Trump not well ahead with large time advantage over Harris. 

[Hanaguma]

1 hour ago, Wrwest said:

Preferably not Mr. Chamberland but the issue is not Ukraine, it is the unilateral decision to invade another sovereign nation.

It's spelled "Chamberlain". If you are going to use a historical slur, at least be accurate.

You are right, the issue is not necessarily Ukraine. The issue is how much you/the MIC are willing to pay to support Ukraine. Also the issue is what will you accept as terms to stop the fighting.  

Personally, I would rather not see WW3 break out over a country like Ukraine. I don't think Ukraine is worth the blood and lives of thousands of NATO soldiers, nor is it worth wasting more than the tens of billions of dollars that have already been thrown away.

 

My preferred outcome doesn't include these results. How about yours? 

[Hanaguma]

57 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

It is actually quite simple explanation. Trump announced his candidacy on 15 Nov 2022 and started campaigning. Harris nomination was in August 5 2024 and in a short month has regained the loss momentum of Biden and gradually gaining grounds on Trump. So the question is really why Trump not well ahead with large time advantage over Harris. 

Trump would be farther ahead if he wasn't Trump. Another candidate (DeSantis, Vance) with a similar platform would be pulling away with the victory.  On the three biggest issues for American voters (inflation, immigration, the economy), the GOP leads in voter support.  TBH, I think Trump is a drag on the ticket. But given the alternative, no real other option.

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

Trump would be farther ahead if he wasn't Trump. Another candidate (DeSantis, Vance) with a similar platform would be pulling away with the victory.  On the three biggest issues for American voters (inflation, immigration, the economy), the GOP leads in voter support.  TBH, I think Trump is a drag on the ticket. But given the alternative, no real other option.

It will be Trump vs Harris for better or worse and it will be Vance for 2028. DeSantis blew his chances with his lack of charisma and awkwardness with voters. Handling of economy is practically tie with the latest polls. While Trump has the advantage on immgration issues, he also have much negativities among voters on abortion, gun laws and climate issues. Trump is not the same person as he was in 2016 and in his current state of mind, he should never be allowed to lead the most powerful country in the world. 

Edited October 9 by Eric Loh
wrong word

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

It is actually quite simple explanation. Trump announced his candidacy on 15 Nov 2022 and started campaigning. Harris nomination was in August 5 2024 and in a short month has regained the loss momentum of Biden and gradually gaining grounds on Trump. So the question is really why Trump not well ahead with large time advantage over Harris. 

Trump is regarded by many as the worst man on the planet. so the real question is why he even has a chance at being POTUS again, regardless of his opponent?

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Trump is not the same person as he was in 2016 and in his current state of mind, he should never be allowed to lead the most powerful country in the world. 

Didn't dissuade the voters from electing Biden though.

[Wrwest]

On 10/9/2024 at 2:55 PM, Hanaguma said:

It's spelled "Chamberlain". If you are going to use a historical slur, at least be accurate.

You are right, the issue is not necessarily Ukraine. The issue is how much you/the MIC are willing to pay to support Ukraine. Also the issue is what will you accept as terms to stop the fighting.  

Personally, I would rather not see WW3 break out over a country like Ukraine. I don't think Ukraine is worth the blood and lives of thousands of NATO soldiers, nor is it worth wasting more than the tens of billions of dollars that have already been thrown away.

 

My preferred outcome doesn't include these results. How about yours? 

Yes, "spellcheck" got me again and I was remiss in not proofing more closely. Humble apology. We agree on not preferring a WW III. Boils down to when and where we find an aggressive action needing a like response. We could reflect on Finland (they perceived a greater current threat from Russia under Putin and thus joined NATO (along with Sweden). The Baltic States have also voiced concern. I do think this might have been averted by a clearer communication with Russia. A misstep ... I would agree. The line crossed for me was an armed invasion.

[Eric Loh]

Seem the October surprise is from God's wrath. The hurricanes in NC, Georgia and Florida with widespread destruction in rural red areas will upend Republican election plan to canvass for votes and the ability and incentive for the weary and exhausted residents to vote. It also bring home to many that climate change is real and exposed Trump as the pathological liar.