Phuket Tourism Worries Mount Over Climate Change Impact

[drgoon]

The place is a sh#t hole now, what with the 'quality' Russian, Chinese gangsters. Then there's those from India.

I was there for a week earlier last month visiting Thai friends. They're moving out, had enough.

[baipaibkk]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

the Tourism Authority is focusing on promoting Thailand as a sustainable, eco-friendly travel destination, reported Bangkok Post.

Thailand is one of the largest environmental polluters in the world

[black tabby12345]

First causalities of the climatical change on the global are the low-laying coastlines and islands.

By the rising sea level.

Some other part of the world is already affected bad enough.

Australia started to accept refugees from the islands in the south Pacific.

 

Australia offers refuge to Tuvaluans as rising sea levels threaten Pacific archipelago (france24.com)

 

Looks  pretty much like the cost of the modern comfort and conveniences we take for granted.

There could be some natural cycle as well.

But Human Input is undoubtfully acerating  that sort of phenomenon. 

 

I really feel sorry that the  fast and worst  affected are often those in the 3rd World countries: They are usually much less consuming (by all means) than the 1st World population.

But they are often forced to suffer more than the people who make the negative changes  worse...

 

[RickyJB]

7 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

But what a about Defense Thailand needs to defend itself they need a Sub. New planes 

That is true 🤣

[cjinchiangrai]

9 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said:

First causalities of the climatical change on the global are the low-laying coastlines and islands.

By the rising sea level.

Some other part of the world is already affected bad enough.

Australia started to accept refugees from the islands in the south Pacific.

 

Australia offers refuge to Tuvaluans as rising sea levels threaten Pacific archipelago (france24.com)

 

Looks  pretty much like the cost of the modern comfort and conveniences we take for granted.

There could be some natural cycle as well.

But Human Input is undoubtfully acerating  that sort of phenomenon. 

 

I really feel sorry that the  fast and worst  affected are often those in the 3rd World countries: They are usually much less consuming (by all means) than the 1st World population.

But they are often forced to suffer more than the people who make the negative changes  worse...

 

Third world countries like Florida. Many major cities are at risk. Time to buy land up country.

[NedR69]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

and the influx of Russian and Chinese gangsters and you have some major problems. 

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Yes...and just wait for the casinos to open in a few years.  Crime and gansters, organized crime will follow, or probably grow even before the first casino opens.  There's no enforcement now even for petty issues like bad driving, speeding, expired registration, motorbikes unsafe, no helmets, etc, etc.  Zero enforcement and a green light for crime when casinos are here.

[HOOD Robin]

2 hours ago, RickyJB said:

How about investing some money on proper drainage, flood defences instead of just thinking about the dollars coming in.  Serious over building and destroying nature wont help . 

 

Same for Pattaya area !

 

[10baht]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

operators are increasingly anxious about climate change's tangible consequences

JC and the boys -climate change is just a part of what?  "CLIMATE"  It has been going on since the beginning of time. Remember CC is just  code for wealth redistribution.

[patman30]

30 minutes ago, black tabby12345 said:

First causalities of the climatical change on the global are the low-laying coastlines and islands.

By the rising sea level.

Some other part of the world is already affected bad enough.

Australia started to accept refugees from the islands in the south Pacific.

 

Australia offers refuge to Tuvaluans as rising sea levels threaten Pacific archipelago (france24.com)

 

Looks  pretty much like the cost of the modern comfort and conveniences we take for granted.

There could be some natural cycle as well.

But Human Input is undoubtfully acerating  that sort of phenomenon. 

 

I really feel sorry that the  fast and worst  affected are often those in the 3rd World countries: They are usually much less consuming (by all means) than the 1st World population.

But they are often forced to suffer more than the people who make the negative changes  worse...

 

The age old Tuvalu propaganda.......

"In the four decades to 2014, Tuvalu's total land area grew by 73 hectares, or 2.9 per cent."

 

 

 

[10baht]

1 hour ago, JustinCredible said:

Does this mean that they finally realize that Climate Change is real?

Seriously???🤑 It's all a money grab. 

[Sorted2024]

Another load of BS .

A look at the infrastructure will tell you the real story 

[MarkBR]

1 hour ago, lavender19 said:

I live on Phuket for nine years many years ago. It's always had floods and and landslides. More to do the blocking of klongs and building on hillsides Nothing to do with the BS climate change

All statements correct except for last incorrect statement.  Climate Change increases frequency and magnitude of weather events - Basic  radiation physics interacting with atmosphere = more water in atmosphere due to more heat.

[black tabby12345]

28 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Third world countries like Florida. 

 

Do you call the state of Florida(US) the 3rd world?

[10baht]

48 minutes ago, baipaibkk said:

Thailand is one of the largest environmental polluters in the world

Screw that, if you want to point the finger for the world's worst you know where to point. 🙃 North

[10baht]

35 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Third world countries like Florida. Many major cities are at risk. Time to buy land up country.

No! No! stay away from up country - you know there are climate change earthquakes in the north.🤯

[cjinchiangrai]

13 minutes ago, 10baht said:

Screw that, if you want to point the finger for the world's worst you know where to point. 🙃 North

China and the U.S. by far.

[QPRFC]

I'm certain that they will continue to double plastic bag everything

[PingRoundTheWorld]

2 hours ago, LBFM1 said:

It  will soon' if not already,be one urban metropolis.  Phuket needs to find a secondary reason to exist beyond tourism.

Have you actually been to Phuket? it is nothing alike what you envision. It's quite a big island with many separate areas that are not really connected beyond roads, mainly due to terrain. It's imposssible for it to become one big metropolis without literally removing mountains, not to mention local politics. And as for Phuket finding a reason to exist other than tourism- that's about as funny as Pattaya officials' wet dream of rebranding it as a family-friendly destination. Having said all of that: it's obvious the problems are due to poor planning, over custruction, and lack of proper drainage. Other countries a fraction the size of Thailand can manage drainage and rarely flood - so why do so many areas in Thailand every year, multiple times a year. Pattaya again comes to mind: second road becomes second river every time it rains heavy - it clears out within a few hours but meanwhile it's barely useable - for a city that is one of the richest in Thailand it's amazing they cannot handle a little rain on THE main road for transporation. Just dig it up and install proper drains - not that hard.

[JimHuaHin]

Until Thailand has politicians and businesspeople, as well as political and big business leaders, who care more about the future of Thailand and the Thai people than exploiting the "system" to stuff more money in their pockets and (overseas) bank accounts, then Thailand is doomed.

[PingRoundTheWorld]

1 hour ago, black tabby12345 said:

I really feel sorry that the  fast and worst  affected are often those in the 3rd World countries: They are usually much less consuming (by all means) than the 1st World population.

But they are often forced to suffer more than the people who make the negative changes  worse...

Do you have actual examples of this happening? other than sob story propaganda? if anything I've heard more about extreme climate events in developed countries like hurricanes. Rising sea levels may or may not happen, but if that happens all coastline cities will be affected - including developed countries and including Thailand.

 

As for Tuvalu. At least at this point in time it's a threat of what MIGHT happen IF sea level rise frequency increases for decades. This isn't something that already happened, and so far sea levels have risen centimeters. Not saying it won't cause problems in the future - but it's not like tomorrow they will be underwater - that's just propaganda.

[PingRoundTheWorld]

13 minutes ago, JimHuaHin said:

Until Thailand has politicians and businesspeople, as well as political and big business leaders, who care more about the future of Thailand and the Thai people than exploiting the "system" to stuff more money in their pockets and (overseas) bank accounts, then Thailand is doomed.

So in other words- never. 

 

I wouldn't be so quick to put a doomed slogan on it. With all it's faults and corruption Thailand has still managed to be one of the nicer places to live in the region. Things might get done backwards and with a lot of flip-flopping, but eventually get done for the most part. Exept for proper drainage.

[Cabradelmar]

All this means is thaiz can excelerate their sellout while the selling is still good. 

[black tabby12345]

1 hour ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:

Do you have actual examples of this happening? other than sob story propaganda? if anything I've heard more about extreme climate events in developed countries like hurricanes. Rising sea levels may or may not happen, but if that happens all coastline cities will be affected - including developed countries and including Thailand.

 

As for Tuvalu. At least at this point in time it's a threat of what MIGHT happen IF sea level rise frequency increases for decades. This isn't something that already happened, and so far sea levels have risen centimeters. Not saying it won't cause problems in the future - but it's not like tomorrow they will be underwater - that's just propaganda.

 

Do I sense any part of  the actual climatical change on global scale in my daily life?

Good question.

My answer is:Yes.

 

I have been in Chiang Mai(old city area), Thailand since mid Nov. 05.

19 years on since my settlement started.

There is one thing I noticed in my term.

 

What I have strongly felt is, more humidity than yesteryears(06-09..) during Dry Seasons here: November-March(compared to old days of my residency here).

 

It is reflected upon my monthly power usage(for A/C in my room).

In old time, in Dec-Jan, power meter usually moved only around 25/month.

But in recent years, it never stays that low: At least 40 or more a month.

It means I am feeling more humidity than years ago.

 

And I  also started to see more rain during the above season.

For the first few years of my settlement here, very few rainy days during these months.

 

I personally appreciate a bit of rain during Nov-Feb period as it serves natural air purifier, though.

 

My experience seems to match part of the typical climatical change theory:

Tropical regions are likely to be more cyclonic.

 

Becoming more cyclonic means more humidity in the air.

As the humidity is the vital driving force behind cyclone/typhoon.

 

Let me get one thing clear.

I am nothing like the supporter of the Green Peace/Sea Shepherd.

I rather hate them strongly.

 

I burry every single piece of my vegetable/fruit scrap to landlords' garden(they welcome it). 

Apple and potato peels are given to their rabbit.

And apartment owner's family scoop that animal's scat to put  it back to their soil to grow their plants.

 

Edited October 12 by black tabby12345

[fresher]

3 hours ago, AndreasHG said:

 

Thailand geographic location is what it is.

It has never exclusively attracted high quality tourists in first place. Already 25 years ago Khaosan Road was full of Western backpackers and travellers of dubious economic wealth. These tourists are still visiting Thailand. However, the combined effect of the emergence of low-cost airlines, the growing disposable income available to Russians, due the demise of Communism, Chinese, Indians (and Malaysians, Indonesians, Bangladeshi), their sheer number (over 3 billion just considering China and India) and proximity, has diluted the presence of Western travellers so much, that they are now almost invisible.

For your reference, the number of foreign visitors setting foot in Thailand grew from approximately 8.5 million in 1999 to over 38 million in 2019 (the chart below is from Wikipedia). Thailand expects to receive 80 million visitors in 2027, further amplifying this phenomenon. 

 

 

Awareness of the small window for a pleasant holiday in Thailand is increasing all the time. May to October is the rainy season. February to April is the smog season, which appears to be growing year on year. That leaves November, December and hopefully a smog free January. Except Bangkok of course, which is currently beset by smog as well as floods now in mid-October.

[Surasak]

4 hours ago, JustinCredible said:

Does this mean that they finally realize that Climate Change is real?

Quite possibly, as I notice it hasn't rained for almost a week now. So yes, the climate has changed.

[cjinchiangrai]

7 minutes ago, Surasak said:

Quite possibly, as I notice it hasn't rained for almost a week now. So yes, the climate has changed.

Not exactly what climate change is about but OK. It has been raining regularly and heavily here.

 

[Nicholas Paul KNIGHT]

The major problem with tourism in Thailand is TAT ,, stupid ideas and mainly uselesds themes.

Fix the Tourism Infrastructure , clean up all Tourism Venues, increase safety on waterborne activities . Show the world this is done the Tourists will return .

 

Scamming Thais shopuld get automatic 2 years in priSon for tarnishing THAILANDs IMAGE 

[BritScot]

4 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

The Americans complain too much. 
Better off without them.

Hopefully Trump will build his wall and keep them all in.

Racist! Yep, very Racist remark. Thailand killed the golden goose many years ago. The failure to invest and the uncertainty of ever changing immigration laws. Driving away expats and greed gouging existing expats. So now you have expat community dwindling and not being replaced. Letting a bank hold 800k of your money giving zero interest puts expats off especially when there are friendlier countries out there. Expats bring family tourism into the country. All the expats I've ever known have left Thailand even the ones I thought were there for life have left now desperate to sell their houses...

[Surasak]

3 hours ago, black tabby12345 said:

First causalities of the climatical change on the global are the low-laying coastlines and islands.

By the rising sea level.

Some other part of the world is already affected bad enough.

Australia started to accept refugees from the islands in the south Pacific.

 

Australia offers refuge to Tuvaluans as rising sea levels threaten Pacific archipelago (france24.com)

 

Looks  pretty much like the cost of the modern comfort and conveniences we take for granted.

There could be some natural cycle as well.

But Human Input is undoubtfully acerating  that sort of phenomenon. 

 

I really feel sorry that the  fast and worst  affected are often those in the 3rd World countries: They are usually much less consuming (by all means) than the 1st World population.

But they are often forced to suffer more than the people who make the negative changes  worse...

 

The Maldives were supposed to have sunk in 2015! So much for the rising seas.  

[MalcolmB]

4 minutes ago, BritScot said:

So now you have expat community dwindling and not being replaced.

I don’t recall ever hearing Thais said they wanted an expat/sexpat community anyway.

I think you might be greatly overestimating your importance here.

If you were gone tomorrow Thailand will not miss you.