iCon Fraud Unveiled: Lessons in Greed and Hard Truths

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

Do you think it would be bad if Musk and Bezos would have less and some poor people in need would have more?

I think it would be great for "poor people in need" to have more. 

 

But what does Musk and Bezos' having less have to do with poor people in need having more?  Do you think the left raising taxes on Amazon or "the greedy rich" is going to improve the lives of poor people? 

 

I am not a fan of Bezos, but how many lives have been improved by Amazon?

 

Do you think that when corporate income taxes are raised, the owners are just going to take the hit? They are not. They will just raise prices. Revenue comes from consumers. Taxes come from revenue. It's only complicated for really high IQ individuals. 

 

The US Government is flushing money down the toilet as fast as they can, and the high IQ people think the problem is that they need more money to flush down the toilet. 

 

Actually, it would better serve the country if some of it were flushed down the toilet rather than how it is actually spent. 

[Yellowtail]

11 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Is that what you really think?

Are you able to see a difference between the far left, the left, the center, and people who are conservative but still don't want Trump?

I.e. is Liz Cheney one of those people who want to have their communities overrun by illegal aliens, allow men in their daughter's showers, more welfare and higher energy costs?

 

Obviously, there are some crazy far left people out there, but there are not so many of them. They just seem to have very big loud mouths. 

 

Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney, Kamala Harris, Obama, the Bushes, the Clintons, Bruce Springsteen, Mitch McConnel, Jeff Bezos, Oprah Winfree, Magic Johnson et al, will never suffer the consequences of their ideology. 

 

The only immigrants in their neighborhoods are cutting their grass and cleaning their toilets. 

 

They are not waiting in line at the emergency room, and their kids are not in public schools, and do they care about the price of milk or gasoline. 

 

Illegal immigration benefits the rich, at the expose of the poor. 

[BusyB]

7 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

I think you mean Reagan.

 

Thatcher loved him as well - like she loved Reagan. Hayek was staunchly 'anti-socialism'.

 

Although what passes for 'socialism in the US is a joke. When people call Harris a 'Marxist' and The Economist a 'leftwing' publication, you know the world's gone mad.

 

Personally I think social media is mainly responsible. Not any putative 'socialism'.

Edited 7 hours ago by BusyB

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[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, pomchop said:

It is all a big reality tv show to a big chunk of trumpers.  The crazier the behavior and words that come out of his mouth the more they cheer.  Unfortunately it is not a TV show.

 

I also laugh about this one - until it became reality.

 

[OneMoreFarang]

55 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney, Kamala Harris, Obama, the Bushes, the Clintons, Bruce Springsteen, Mitch McConnel, Jeff Bezos, Oprah Winfree, Magic Johnson et al, will never suffer the consequences of their ideology. 

 

The only immigrants in their neighborhoods are cutting their grass and cleaning their toilets. 

 

They are not waiting in line at the emergency room, and their kids are not in public schools, and do they care about the price of milk or gasoline. 

 

Illegal immigration benefits the rich, at the expose of the poor. 

You didn't answer my question. I guess you know why you did that.

[NanLaew]

On 10/17/2024 at 6:24 PM, BangkokReady said:

It's got to be higher than when they elected a sleazy, corrupt old man with dementia, simply because he wasn't Donald Trump.

 

It's got to be lower than when they elected a lying, cheating narcissist, simply because he wasn't Hillary Clinton.

[riclag]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney, Kamala Harris, Obama, the Bushes, the Clintons, Bruce Springsteen, Mitch McConnel, Jeff Bezos, Oprah Winfree, Magic Johnson et al, will never suffer the consequences of their ideology. 

 

The only immigrants in their neighborhoods are cutting their grass and cleaning their toilets. 

 

They are not waiting in line at the emergency room, and their kids are not in public schools, and do they care about the price of milk or gasoline. 

 

Illegal immigration benefits the rich, at the expose of the poor. 

Well said!

[bangadang]

I.Q.? Because you may disagree with someone, it does not mean they have a low IQ, and you have a high IQ. That, to me, is appallingly arrogant and not a sign of high IQ.  Did you watch the dinner? Hugely funny and intelligent by Trump and embarrassingly cringe-worthy of Harris. I think it's very close, but silent voters might turn it Trump's way. It's exciting, and I will watch it all night. If Harris wins, I will not denigrate her supporters as having low IQs, although I have my suspicions.

[BusyB]

19 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

It's got to be lower than when they elected a lying, cheating narcissist, simply because he wasn't Hillary Clinton.

 

They didn't Elect him. The 'electoral college' SElected him after he lost. He hasn't won one election so far.

 

That is the great danger this time as well. But as long as they are more frightened of real change in the US, they'll have to put up with their demockery - like the UK.

[BangkokReady]

3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

It's got to be lower than when they elected a lying, cheating narcissist, simply because he wasn't Hillary Clinton.

 

No wonder you find this all so hard to understand, if that's why you think Trump was elected...  🤦‍♂️

[BangkokReady]

3 hours ago, BusyB said:

They didn't Elect him. The 'electoral college' SElected him after he lost. He hasn't won one election so far.

 

He won.  That's why the electoral college elected him.  The popular vote is meaningless.

[transam]

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

 

He won.  That's why the electoral college elected him.  The popular vote is meaningless.

If today's electoral college wants to be deemed sensible, Trump should be sent to graze on his golf course, as they have witnessed a huge amount of verbal daft stuff from him, add that to his continuous embarrassing legal woes, surely he cannot be put in control of the USA....😳

[FruitPudding]

6 minutes ago, transam said:

If today's electoral college wants to be deemed sensible, Trump should be sent to graze on his golf course, as they have witnessed a huge amount of verbal daft stuff from him, add that to his continuous embarrassing legal woes, surely he cannot be put in control of the USA....😳

 

What makes Harris better?

[BangkokReady]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

If today's electoral college wants to be deemed sensible, Trump should be sent to graze on his golf course, as they have witnessed a huge amount of verbal daft stuff from him, add that to his continuous embarrassing legal woes, surely he cannot be put in control of the USA....😳

 

The electoral college basically just follow the will of the people, as is their role.  If they chose to ignore the votes and just select who they want, there would be very justified consequences.

 

I know you far-left types don't believe that people should be able to choose who they want to be their president, but you haven't achieved your communist dystopia quite yet.

[transam]

Just now, FruitPudding said:

 

What makes Harris better?

She's not nut's.......🤗

 

The Republican Party has stuffed itself using Trump...🥴

[transam]

2 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

The electoral college basically just follow the will of the people, as is their role.  If they chose to ignore the votes and just select who they want, there would be very justified consequences.

 

I know you far-left types don't believe that people should be able to choose who they want to be their president, but you haven't achieved your communist dystopia quite yet.

Communist, me, hmmm, sorry ol' chum, that just proves you are as daft as Trump...

[FruitPudding]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

She's not nut's.......🤗

 

The Republican Party has stuffed itself using Trump...🥴

 

How many nuts does one have to suck before one becomes nuts?

 

At least Trump didn't suck nuts to get where he is.

 

You think she can run the USA?

 

 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by FruitPudding

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Communist, me, hmmm, sorry ol' chum, that just proves you are as daft as Trump...

 

What do you call your particular brand of anti-democracy then?

[transam]

2 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

How many nuts does one have to suck before one becomes nuts?

 

At least Trump didn't suck nuts to get where he is.

 

You think she can run the USA?

 

 

 

 

Strange post............🤔

[transam]

2 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

What do you call your particular brand of anti-democracy then?

What on earth are you on about, get a grip chap............

You are totally confused........

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, transam said:

What on earth are you on about, get a grip chap............

 

Try reading what you actually post...  🙄

 

You said that you wanted the electoral college to ignore the vote and not elect Trump:

 

20 minutes ago, transam said:

If today's electoral college wants to be deemed sensible, Trump should be sent to graze on his golf course, as they have witnessed a huge amount of verbal daft stuff from him, add that to his continuous embarrassing legal woes, surely he cannot be put in control of the USA....😳

 

If you want the electoral college to ignore how the Americans voted and choose their own candidate, how can that possibly be democratic?

[transam]

Just now, BangkokReady said:

 

Try reading what you actually post...  🙄

 

You said that you wanted the electoral college to ignore the vote and not elect Trump:

 

 

If you want the electoral college to ignore how the Americans voted and choose their own candidate, how can that possibly be democratic?

BS, I never said anything of the sort..........Your nut's.......😱

 

YOU said the populace vote is meaningless.

 

You prefer Trumps daily "reported" lies to be a President, then you condemn Harris for smiling, or laughing, amazing....🥴

 

[BangkokReady]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

BS, I never said anything of the sort..........Your nut's.......😱

 

You said exactly that.  I quoted you directly.

 

32 minutes ago, transam said:

If today's electoral college wants to be deemed sensible, Trump should be sent to graze on his golf course, as they have witnessed a huge amount of verbal daft stuff from him, add that to his continuous embarrassing legal woes, surely he cannot be put in control of the USA....😳

 

[transam]

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

 

You said exactly that.  I quoted you directly.

 

 

It never meant what you posted, twisting posts is not on, chap......🙃

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, transam said:

It never meant what you posted, twisting posts is not on, chap......🙃

 

I'm twisting nothing.  How could the electoral college themselves make the decision to "send trump to graze" without usurping the decisions of the American people?

[Danderman123]

Obviously, 50% of voters are under average.

[transam]

Just now, BangkokReady said:

 

I'm twisting nothing.  How could the electoral college themselves make the decision to "send trump to graze" without usurping the decisions of the American people?

🤣..........You said the populace vote means nothing, I said to you, then the E.C. should...etc....🤣

Lay off the sherbet cap................

[Yellowtail]

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

You didn't answer my question. I guess you know why you did that.

Did you not ask me: "I.e. is Liz Cheney one of those people who want to have their communities overrun by illegal aliens, allow men in their daughter's showers, more welfare and higher energy costs?"

 

What did you not like about my answer?

 

Okay, you also asked:

Q: Is that what you really think?

A: For the most part, yes.

 

Q: Are you able to see a difference between the far left, the left, the center, and people who are conservative but still don't want Trump?

A: Yes, I can see the difference. 

 

Now why did you not answer my questions? I guess we both know why you didn't 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

4 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

It's got to be lower than when they elected a lying, cheating narcissist, simply because he wasn't Hillary Clinton.

You mean Obama?