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Jewish does not mean a kind of blood or genes actually. It means ideology. Their ideology is good for personal success and career. Are people with such ideology good for any government? The european history is the answer.
So we should think of this ideology as an ideology that has its advantages and disadvantages.

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11 minutes ago, zmisha said:

Jewish does not mean a kind of blood or genes actually. It means ideology. Their ideology is good for personal success and career. Are people with such ideology good for any government? The european history is the answer.
So we should think of this ideology as an ideology that has its advantages and disadvantages.

No.

Jewish is BOTH a religion and a people (ethnically).

Thus an ETHNORELIGIOUS group.

It is not an ideology.

Within the Jewish religion, there are many different sects from the extremely religiously observant (an incredible amount of work and commitment)  to the very liberal reform sometimes called the Unitarians of Judaism, to the quite a few Jews who have a Jewish identity but not religious at all, often called cultural Jews. For Americans that can mean loving Jerry Seinfeld and lox and bagels.

As far as genes. you are misinformed as well. For example Ashkenazis are easily identifiable by DNA and are unfortunately subject to some diseases which are much more common to those with Ashkenazi ethnicity.

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3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Jewish is BOTH a religion and a people (ethnically).

The ethnic component in this case serves as an auxiliary mechanism for instilling in a person the idea that he is unique and this religion/ideology/philosophy (there are many synonyms) - applies to him.

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2 minutes ago, BruceWayne said:

TO summarise then:

 

👇

Anyone can become a jew 

but

NOT Everyone can become High IQ 

👆

 

Since anyone can becoame a jew the myth of hi iq jews is just that - a myth...

 

A mythical trope trotted out - often by paranoid narcissists with delusions of grandeur

 

'Special' my ass

 

Joos are wicked smart (kishka)

next are Japanese (sashimi) 

 

Well documented they lead with the highest IQ's 

 

#spatialreasoning

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, BruceWayne said:

Anyone can become a jew 

but

NOT Everyone can become High IQ 

 

Since anyone can becoame a jew the myth of hi iq jews is just that - a myth...

 

#logicalreasoning

 

 

religion wise you sure may follow the Jooish religion -  mmmm, bacon taste good ......

 

ethnic wise = Not a Joo 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, zmisha said:

Genetics? Haha. Man, do you know what is the size of human genome? 3 billion base pairs of DNA = 6 billion of bits = 750 mega bytes. And genes occupy  1-2 % of human DNA's (Google it!), so 2% of 750 mega bytes is... 15 mega bytes actually, the size of simple Tetris game from your iPhone. So you have only two choices 1) Agree that a human and his talents are simpler than a game of Tetris 2) Agree that a human and his talents have nothing to do with genes.

What a dumb deflection.

I was talking about how certain ethnic groups have a higher risk for certain disease that are linked to genetics.

Such as tays sachs for Ashkenazi Jews, sickle cell for blacks.

I wasn't talking about intelligence. That's a can of worms.

I was just saying that there are distinctive ethnic groups associated with Jews.

So people saying Jewish is only about a religion are objectively wrong.

There is a strong tribal aspect (you are a Jew from your Jewish mother) in the anthropological matrilineal sense. 

 

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3 minutes ago, NickyLouie said:

 

religion wise you sure may follow the Jooish religion -  mmmm, bacon taste good ......

 

ethnic wise = Not a Joo 

 

 

what's so hard to understand:

 

Anyone can become a jew (even ethnically white people like u)

but

NOT Everyone can become High IQ (even ethnically white people like u)

 

Since anyone can becoame a jew the myth of hi iq jews is just that - a myth

 

#logicalreasoning

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, BruceWayne said:

what's so hard to understand:

 

Anyone can become a jew (even ethnically white people like u)

but

NOT Everyone can become High IQ (even ethnically white people like u)

 

Since anyone can becoame a jew the myth of hi iq jews is just that - a myth

 

#logicalreasoning

 

 

 

 

Sherm, DNA comes up differently

 

#in the time of chimpanzees I was monkey  

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4 minutes ago, BruceWayne said:

what's so hard to understand:

 

Anyone can become a jew (even ethnically white people like u)

but

NOT Everyone can become High IQ (even ethnically white people like u)

 

Since anyone can becoame a jew the myth of hi iq jews is just that - a myth

 

#logicalreasoning

 

 

 

I'm not interested in the IQ debate but we've been through this before.

Being Jewish by conversion is not encouraged at all in Judaism. So though not exactly rare is not super common either. So the majority of Jews do indeed have a Jewish ethnic identity. Obviously when Sammy David Jr. converted he did not. 

Not rocket science.

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On 10/27/2024 at 12:25 PM, CanadaSam said:

I know from friends I have had, they are smart, extremely so, when it comes to money!

Maybe, but what about the subject of governmental building? Did any government welcome them in history? Jews tried to create their own country for centuries. And now they have their own government. Do you want to live in such a government? I am sure you don`t. But you exclude the subject of state building from the assessment of Jewish intelligence, or you think that it is not they who are responsible for their problems, but someone else (arabs? muslims?). That is why you are fascinated by their intelligence.

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15 minutes ago, zmisha said:

Maybe, but what about the subject of governmental building? Did any government welcome them in history? Jews tried to create their own country for centuries. And now they have their own government. Do you want to live in such a government? I am sure you don`t. But you exclude the subject of state building from the assessment of Jewish intelligence, or you think that it is not they who are responsible for their problems, but someone else (arabs? muslims?). That is why you are fascinated by their intelligence.

George Washington welcomed Jews.

The Netherlands has historically welcomed Jews.

Boca Raton Florida welcomes Jews (joke break).

I'm sure there are others but those come to mind.

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