Why do decent Americans support trump

[transam]

Just now, bubblegum said:

Indeed, civil war is what America is leaning to if Trump wins or loses. His hate has spread to far already. Only a landslide victory by Harris might prevent this. 

 

Now that is fact........

Trump must be buried, the USA does not need a lying dictator who thinks with his small head...........🤔

[mogandave]

47 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Wow man, do you actually believe what you're shoveling?  So you're saying Biden and Harris should want Trump to be assassinated.  I too believe that Trump is a fascist and should not be near the levers of power.  But I don't want to kill the guy. 

I there anyone that would not want to see Trump assassinated if he actually were a fascist and a dictator? I would. 

 

After the first assassination attempt, a poll showed that about 25% of Democrats thought it would be good for the country it Trump were killed, and another 25% said they didn’t know.

[Hanaguma]

9 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Indeed, civil war is what America is leaning to if Trump wins or loses. His hate has spread to far already. Only a landslide victory by Harris might prevent this. 

But assassinations are not in the democrats playbook. 

So it is OK with you (and the Democratic Party it seems) if a fascist Nazi Hitler wannabe wins the election then. Gotcha.  

[Hanaguma]

4 minutes ago, mogandave said:

I there anyone that would not want to see Trump assassinated if he actually were a fascist and a dictator? I would. 

 

After the first assassination attempt, a poll showed that about 25% of Democrats thought it would be good for the country it Trump were killed, and another 25% said they didn’t know.

True. If I thought he actually WERE a fascist Nazi Hitler clone, I would want him dead. Buried and forgotten. Far far away from any chance of taking power.

 

But I don't. And I suspect a lot of the people who whine about Trump don't either. 

[mogandave]

10 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Indeed, civil war is what America is leaning to if Trump wins or loses. His hate has spread to far already. Only a landslide victory by Harris might prevent this. 

But assassinations are not in the democrats playbook. 

There were riots all over the country last time he won, it will be much worse if he wins this time.

[frank83628]

50 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

VP Harris had no control over the US borders. NONE. Why then do you make the false statement?

US Border laws are passed by the US Congress and they are enforced by US Homeland Security which includes the US Border Patrol. It was Trump who would not let the last bipartisan border legislation pass,legislation which have  funded additional border security assets and attacked the core reason for migration.

 

There are no open borders in the USA. Yes, there is a  problem with unauthorized migrants.  It is nothing new. Unauthorized entries occurred under the Trump administration just as they have under the administrations of Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, and so on. The numbers coming in are too large to stop with conventional means. There are organized gangs who transport the migrants. The people who are shouting the loudest about "illegals" refuse to accept that they are in large part the reason why those millions of people are arriving. They have had multiple options to address the issue, many more cost effective than paying for fences and  more guards. The  Bush plan was  turned down too and had it been put into effect much of the current mess could have been reduced.

 

the bill included aid for Ukraine. it wasn't just for the border. 

 

Harris did little as border czar to stem the flow. why  fly & bus in illegals, that is assisting illegal entry no?

[mogandave]

1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

True. If I thought he actually WERE a fascist Nazi Hitler clone, I would want him dead. Buried and forgotten. Far far away from any chance of taking power.

 

But I don't. And I suspect a lot of the people who whine about Trump don't either. 

 

 

Calling him Hitler and and his supporters maga fascists and garbage, is not divisive. 

 

A comedian telling about the trash in PR is divisive. 

 

 

[cdemundo]

Interesting quote from Barbara Comstock former Virginia Congressperson.

 

“I have never in my political career been in a room with somebody so profoundly stupid as Donald Trump.”

 

Not new or groundbreaking but certainly a very clear message.

[Talon]

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

the bill included aid for Ukraine. it wasn't just for the border. 

 

Harris did little as border czar to stem the flow. why  fly & bus in illegals, that is assisting illegal entry no?

 

All true.

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, bubblegum said:

Down 22 % last time I looked. 555

so thats still up 278% then

[frank83628]

3 hours ago, bubblegum said:

 

But assassinations are not in the democrats playbook. 

but they are in the playbook of the CIA and intelligence agencies, who are also backing the Deomcrats

[transam]

Just now, frank83628 said:

but they are in the playbook of the CIA and intelligence agencies, who are also backing the Deomcrats

Proof link please, though one from the USA, not Russia, eh.............😉

[pattayasan]

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

so thats still up 278% then

 

I think DJT would be a great day trade for a long on Monday, especially if it dips on open. I wouldn't hold the trade overnight though.

[frank83628]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Proof link please, though one from the USA, not Russia, eh.............😉

so, you've never in all your 80yrs heard of the CIA being involved in assassinations?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/05/cia-long-history-kill-leaders-around-the-world-north-korea 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

so, you've never in all your 80yrs heard of the CIA being involved in assassinations?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/05/cia-long-history-kill-leaders-around-the-world-north-korea 

I haven't been around 80 years..............🙄

Besides, I know nothing about CIA assassinations, I don't have your Russian connections....🤔

[frank83628]

Just now, transam said:

I haven't been around 80 years..............🙄

Besides, I know nothing about CIA assassinations, I don't have your Russian connections....🤔

75 years then.

 

perhaps you should read that link then and learn something, it's common knowledge or 'alleged' for many decades.

you don't need Russian connections to read and watch news, even with half a brain you could still learn something.

[bubblegum]

22 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

so thats still up 278% then

Nope, pre market down by another 22 %. The market has nno faith in Trump. The upward trend was a setup for going short big time.

[transam]

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

75 years then.

 

perhaps you should read that link then and learn something, it's common knowledge or 'alleged' for many decades.

you don't need Russian connections to read and watch news, even with half a brain you could still learn something.

Perhaps you should stop guessing, eh.

And perhaps I have never been interested in what the CIA does, but you Red folk definitely are, so you crack on.....

[Thingamabob]

4 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

So it is OK with you (and the Democratic Party it seems) if a fascist Nazi Hitler wannabe wins the election then. Gotcha.  

Pathetic, puerile comment. Grow up.

[bubblegum]

13 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Pathetic, puerile comment. Grow up.

Indeed. The man is like an eel, twisting and turning, slimy and feeds on dead bodies. 

[Middle Aged Grouch]

Very true what the OP says, why are even "decent" people supporting Trump.

 

All shows how bad the Biden gang is if even "decent" people are going to vote for the Orange Duck, and I would do the same.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

Very true what the OP says, why are even "decent" people supporting Trump.

 

All shows how bad the Biden gang is if even "decent" people are going to vote for the Orange Duck, and I would do the same.

Really, oh, well..........🤔.............

[Ajarnbrian]

Most candidates in US presidential elections have many shortcomings. Trump has more than any other in living memory. He is ethically and morally unfit to be president.

[SunsetT]

I agree with this 100%  and I just cannot understand it! What does this say about the huge number of US people that support him? I find it deeply troubling!

[Thingamabob]

4 minutes ago, Ajarnbrian said:

Most candidates in US presidential elections have many shortcomings. Trump has more than any other in living memory. He is ethically and morally unfit to be president.

 Trump doesn't hide. With him people know what they are getting. His first presidency was no worse than some, and better than many so I'm told.

[bubblegum]

Very well written:

 

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2024/oct/30/trumps-decline-has-been-alarming/

[pattayasan]

2 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Very well written:

 

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2024/oct/30/trumps-decline-has-been-alarming/

 

It's even simpler than that. "They are eating the dogs" has to be clinically insane.

[frank83628]

17 minutes ago, Ajarnbrian said:

Most candidates in US presidential elections have many shortcomings. Trump has more than any other in living memory. He is ethically and morally unfit to be president.

In your opinion

[frank83628]

8 minutes ago, SunsetT said:

I agree with this 100%  and I just cannot understand it! What does this say about the huge number of US people that support him? I find it deeply troubling!

That's just it, you don't understand how people are fed up with the 'normal routine' wars and self serving politicians, Trump offered a change.

[pattayasan]

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

That's just it, you don't understand how people are fed up with the 'normal routine' wars and self serving politicians, Trump offered a change.

 

He employed a bunch of self serving politicians. Many of whom have either been indicted or flipped on him. The change didn't happen, the swamp got stinkier.