Is Trump going down?

[dinsdale]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:00 AM, pattayasan said:

 

Trump has exposed his abject incivility and repulsive character for so long now that ordinary people can't stomach him any longer. It's no longer possible for any objective publication to give him a pass.

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Funny you say this because it's 70% of the "ordinary people" that say the US is heading in the wrong direction.

[HonestQuietTom]

  On 11/3/2024 at 6:44 AM, dinsdale said:

Harris too is simply a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party elite. She's a DEI appointment who hasn't won a single primary.

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She's won every election she's ever contested (2020 primary is the exception that proves the rule 😜)

In a couple of days you can add the Presidential election to that list.

 

Out of curiosity, what have you ever achieved?

Does it stack up to Kamala's lifetime of winning?

[dinsdale]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:02 AM, pattayasan said:

 

If the $ goes up further it's because bond yields are rising. Inflation is not going away.

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We'll see. Fuel and energy costs go down I would think cost of living will go down accordingly. Need to wait and see I guess.

[pattayasan]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:03 AM, dinsdale said:

Funny you say this because it's 70% of the "ordinary people" that say the US is heading in the wrong direction.

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That doesn't mean they think Trump can fix it. They thought the same when Trump was president. I've never seen a poll which said it was heading in the right direction.

[dinsdale]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:04 AM, HonestQuietTom said:

She's won every election she's ever contested.

In a couple of days you can add the Presidential election to that list.

 

Out of curiosity, what have you ever achieved?

Does it stack up to Kamala's lifetime of winning?

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She didn't win any primary. When the leader of the Democratic Party was up for grabs she was the 1st to go. Harris is a DEI appointment.

[pattayasan]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:07 AM, dinsdale said:

She didn't win any primary. When the leader of the Democratic Party was up for grabs she was the 1st to go. Harris is a DEI appointment.

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The right just love the sloganeering. It's football fan kind of juvenile I think.

[dinsdale]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:06 AM, pattayasan said:

 

That doesn't mean they think Trump can fix it. They thought the same when Trump was president. I've never seen a poll which said it was heading in the right direction.

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Who can then? Have you forgotten that Harris is the sitting VP. Turn the page she says but the previous pages are hers and Biden's. 

[dinsdale]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:09 AM, pattayasan said:

 

The right just love the sloganeering. It's football fan kind of juvenile I think.

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Show me where she has won a primary then.

[pattayasan]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:09 AM, dinsdale said:

Who can then? Have you forgotten that Harris is the sitting VP. Turn the page she says but the previous pages are hers and Biden's. 

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I don't think any one person can fix it. It would take a bomb on congress just for a start. And not only the USA. The old guard anti science seat warmers need to be voted out by realists who respect science.

[HonestQuietTom]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:07 AM, dinsdale said:

She didn't win any primary. When the leader of the Democratic Party was up for grabs she was the 1st to go. Harris is a DEI appointment.

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You missed the edit made 6 minutes ago.

 

(2020 primary is the exception that proves the rule 😜)

 

Now that I think about - being the first to drop out of the 2020 primary probably put her in the box seat for VP selection which of course she "won".

 

Clever girl eh?

[Mazungu]

  On 11/3/2024 at 6:49 AM, dinsdale said:

Wow! You must have an actual source for this outside of legacy media CLAIMS so please post them.

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Get out of your right-wing bubble.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

[pattayasan]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:10 AM, dinsdale said:

Show me where she has won a primary then.

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DEI appointment is stupid, stupid, baseless sloganeeriing not rooted in any kind of truth or rational argument.

[dinsdale]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:12 AM, pattayasan said:

 

DEI appointment is stupid, stupid, baseless sloganeeriing not rooted in any kind of truth or rational argument.

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Funny you use rational and DEI in the same sentence. LOL. Best person on merit for the job? Sorry. Right gender and ethnicity etc. for the job? Ok.

[pattayasan]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:15 AM, dinsdale said:

Funny you say rational and DEI in the same sentence. LOL.

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Because a president decides it's time to appoint a minority to an high political position the far right heads pop. Accusations that a black woman among about a 100 million who is qualified to do the job can't be found start to emerge. It's just abject racism and nothing more. Oh, and puerile.

[frank83628]

  On 11/3/2024 at 4:40 AM, Mazungu said:

555 Why don't you watch the full clip that was posted earlier?

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The full clip where he is talking about the microphone being too low? The full clip that proves it to be ANOTHER bulls edited out of context fake news story.

You lot are lied to practically everyday by the media you follow and you willfully believe it due to yous derangement syndrome and hatred of DJT.

2 threads are running now, both using out of context clips, which has been proved, but rather than admit the medias falshood you ignore the facts and even double down.

The next thread posted you will do the same, and the next, and the next.

Its amazing how grown adults, most of retirement age, turn into screaming schoolchildren, having a tantrum after tantrum at the mere mention of the orange Kings name. It's pathetic

[dinsdale]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:18 AM, pattayasan said:

 

Because a president decides it's time to appoint a minority to an high political position the far right heads pop. Accusations that a black woman among about a 100 million who is qualified to do the job can't be found start to emerge. It's just abject racism and nothing more. Oh, and puerile.

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If you think Harris was Biden's idea you are sadly mistaken. 

[pattayasan]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:26 AM, dinsdale said:

If you think Harris was Biden's idea you are sadly mistaken. 

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It doesn't matter whose idea it was and ALL VP's are chosen based on fund raising.

[dinsdale]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:27 AM, pattayasan said:

 

It doesn't matter whose idea it was and ALL VP's are chosen based on fund raising.

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You're the one that said "Because a president decides it's time to appoint a minority.." Are you saying your post was incorrect?

[pattayasan]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:29 AM, dinsdale said:

You're the one that said "Because a president decides it's time to appoint a minority.." Are you saying your post was incorrect?

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Perhaps you're confusing "choose" with "appoint" and how does it matter which it is?

[Mazungu]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:23 AM, frank83628 said:

The full clip where he is talking about the microphone being too low? The full clip that proves it to be ANOTHER bulls edited out of context fake news story.

You lot are lied to practically everyday by the media you follow and you willfully believe it due to yous derangement syndrome and hatred of DJT.

2 threads are running now, both using out of context clips, which has been proved, but rather than admit the medias falshood you ignore the facts and even double down.

The next thread posted you will do the same, and the next, and the next.

Its amazing how grown adults, most of retirement age, turn into screaming schoolchildren, having a tantrum after tantrum at the mere mention of the orange Kings name. It's pathetic

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Most of us don't simulate oral sex when the microphone is too low. 

 

https://www.the-express.com/news/politics/153411/trump-meltdown-mic-chanting-rally

 

https://www.alternet.org/trump-get-so-angry/

[pattayasan]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:32 AM, Mazungu said:

Most of us don't simulate oral sex when the microphone is too low. 

 

https://www.the-express.com/news/politics/153411/trump-meltdown-mic-chanting-rally

 

https://www.alternet.org/trump-get-so-angry/

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It was just an autonomic reaction or perhaps a flashback from some drugs he took in an airplane.

[dinsdale]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:23 AM, frank83628 said:

The full clip where he is talking about the microphone being too low? The full clip that proves it to be ANOTHER bulls edited out of context fake news story.

You lot are lied to practically everyday by the media you follow and you willfully believe it due to yous derangement syndrome and hatred of DJT.

2 threads are running now, both using out of context clips, which has been proved, but rather than admit the medias falshood you ignore the facts and even double down.

The next thread posted you will do the same, and the next, and the next.

Its amazing how grown adults, most of retirement age, turn into screaming schoolchildren, having a tantrum after tantrum at the mere mention of the orange Kings name. It's pathetic

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Funny how we haven't seen any positives coming from the blue blinkered side on here isn't it. It's all negatives and vitriol. Haven't seen anything about how the economy can be turned around? How inflation can be brought down? How the border problem will be dealt with? 

[dinsdale]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:32 AM, Mazungu said:

Most of us don't simulate oral sex when the microphone is too low. 

 

https://www.the-express.com/news/politics/153411/trump-meltdown-mic-chanting-rally

 

https://www.alternet.org/trump-get-so-angry/

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So you show your ignorance and an unwillingness to see what actually happened as posted in full earlier but simply rely on what your fed by the legacy media and left biased sites. Sadly you are not alone. 

[pattayasan]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:34 AM, dinsdale said:

Funny how we haven't seen any positives coming from the blue blinkered side on here isn't it. It's all negatives and vitriol. Haven't seen anything about how the economy can be turned around? How inflation can be brought down? How the border problem will be dealt with? 

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Trump just isn't that kid of Mom and Pop sort of guy that engenders good feelings among people? Maybe he's a racist war monger who wants to start a civil war in the US?

[xylophone]

  On 11/3/2024 at 6:36 AM, BangkokReady said:

 

How can you say that?  Do you have some sort of mental disability?  Or are you lying too?

 

The very thread you are commenting features a lie.  And there's another recent thread that tells a huge lie also.

 

How can you lie so freely and so obviously?  What is wrong with you?

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Well cowboy I did post a reply to this, but apparently it infringed the AN rules, so here is a précis for you without infringing those rules – –

1). Trump lied about building the wall and making Mexico pay for it because even though a small portion of it was built, it was paid for by the US taxpayer, so another lie.

 

2). He lied about being involved in a helicopter crash landing, which in fact never happened and you can look that up, and it was an outright lie.

 

3). Trump was ordered to pay $2.1 million to the charities from which he stole their funds for his own personal use. Plenty of information available about that, and he actually pleaded guilty to this felony .

 

4). He lied about having sex with Stormy Daniels.

 

5). There are currently 34 felony cases pending against this compulsive liar, as well as a few other cases such as one where he took confidential documents from the White House and hid/stored them in Mar a Largo and lied that he had returned them all, when he hadn't stopped.

 

6). Trump University was another scam which he was convicted of and had to repay huge amounts of money because of this.

 

7).Historian Douglas Brinkley stated that U.S. presidents have occasionally "lied or misled the country," but none were a "serial liar" like Trump. Donnel Stern, writing in Psychoanalytic Dialogues in 2019, declared: "We expect politicians to stretch the truth. But Trump is a whole different animal," because Trump "lies as a policy", and "will say anything" to satisfy his supporters or himself.

 

8). Trump said he wrote the book, "The Art of the Deal" when in fact he didn't as it was ghostwritten by journalist Tony Schwartz.

 

9). Trump claimed that at the time of the September 11 world trade Centre attack that he had a view from his apartment which was specifically aimed at the World Trade Centre, and he added that he watched those people jump. Trump lived in Trump Tower more than 4 miles away and he did not respond to enquiries about how it was possible for him to see people jumping from that far away.

 

10). Trump also stated that he saw Muslims clapping at the world trade Centre attack, and that has been disputed by other people who were there.

 

I could go on for many more pages, but more information is available if one cares to look for it.

 

Oh and before I forget, trump lied about having sex with Stormy Daniels and he can't help himself because he is a compulsive liar and very likely has some sort of mental disorder.

 

So, Cowboy, I will ask, "what is wrong with you"?????????

 

PS. A few links for you to peruse:- 

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/08/politics/trump-helicopter-story-willie-brown/index.html

 

Donald Trump told a record number of lies while in office, and ended his term with an unprecedent attack on democracy carried out by his supporters.

A Legacy of Lies: Examining Donald Trump’s Record-Breaking Dishonesty

 

https://cedar.wwu.edu/wwu_honors/486/

Analysis: Donald Trump’s campaign of relentless lying

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/01/politics/analysis-donald-trumps-campaign-of-relentless-lying/index.html

 

162 lies and distortions in a news conference. NPR fact-checks former President Trump

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/11/nx-s1-5070566/trump-news-conference

[HonestQuietTom]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:34 AM, dinsdale said:

Funny how we haven't seen any positives coming from the blue blinkered side on here isn't it. It's all negatives and vitriol. Haven't seen anything about how the economy can be turned around? How inflation can be brought down? How the border problem will be dealt with? 

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What are you talking about?

The economy has turned around - it is boomin'

Inflation has been beaten (without inducing a recession)

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/02/harris-trump-election-booming-us-economy-challenge.html

 

The only thing standing in the way of a border solution is Trump - a sleazebag that would rather politicise the issue than solve it.

 

Glory days ahead with Madam President in the big chair.

[Mazungu]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:32 AM, Mazungu said:

Most of us don't simulate oral sex when the microphone is too low. 

 

https://www.the-express.com/news/politics/153411/trump-meltdown-mic-chanting-rally

 

https://www.alternet.org/trump-get-so-angry/

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If you don't think that's what he was doing then watch the reaction from the young men behind him. They got it. 

[dinsdale]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:37 AM, pattayasan said:

 

Trump just isn't that kid of Mom and Pop sort of guy that engenders good feelings among people? Maybe he's a racist war monger who wants to start a civil war in the US?

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The war mongers are in the party you support.

[dinsdale]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:39 AM, HonestQuietTom said:

What are you talking about?

The economy has turned around - it is boomin'

Inflation has been beaten (without inducing a recession)

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/02/harris-trump-election-booming-us-economy-challenge.html

 

The only thing standing in the way of a border solution is Trump - a sleazebag that would rather politicise the issue than solve it.

 

Glory days ahead with Madam President in the big chair.

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Did you see the latest job numbers?

[pattayasan]

  On 11/3/2024 at 8:40 AM, dinsdale said:

The war mongers are in the party you support.

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That's the false narrative that the right want to push. The fact that Milley was successful doesn't mean Trump didn't want to bomb Iran.

 

For the past several months, Milley had been engaged in an alarmed effort to insure that Trump did not embark on a military conflict with Iran as part of his quixotic campaign to overturn the results of the 2020 election and remain in power. The chairman secretly feared that Trump would insist on launching a strike on Iranian interests that could set off a full-blown war.

 

https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/youre-gonna-have-a-<deleted>-war-mark-milleys-fight-to-stop-trump-from-striking-iran