The Jewish community center JW3 in north London, a space for gathering and open dialogue, recently found itself at the center of an intense protest. Raymond Simonson, chief executive of JW3, described the experience as one of “intimidation and bullying” rather than a constructive demonstration. “We were besieged,” Simonson recalled, adding that visitors were “pressed up against the outer perimeter” as protestors hurled accusations at them.

 

"This racist rant happened outside a Jewish centre. What stabbed at my heart is they filmed and harassed Sharone Lifshitz who attended the peace conference. Her 84 year old father Oded is a hostage now. He would drive Gazans to hospital. This is truly sick."

This racist rant happened outside a Jewish centre. What stabbed at my heart is they filmed and harassed Sharone Lifshitz who attended the peace conference. Her 84 year old father Oded is a hostage now. He would drive Gazans to hospital. This is truly sick.pic.twitter.com/Hx7X3tLKhe

— Heidi Bachram 🎗️ (@HeidiBachram) October 28, 2024

 

Demonstrators shouted inflammatory terms, including “Nazis” and “baby killers,” which Simonson emphasized held a painful irony, given the Nazi persecution many Jewish families had endured. “This was about intimidation and bullying,” he stated. “I’d defend the rights of anyone to protest, even outside this building, but when you shout ‘Nazis’ and ‘baby killers’ in the face of British Jews whose families have suffered at the hands of Nazis then that is not about sending a message of anything other than intimidation.”

 

"The pro-Pal shouts for Zionism to be eradicated from the Middle East in front of a Jewish centre. In full sight and hearing of the 
@metpoliceuk. A Jewish woman gets upset and seeks help and instead is targeted and abandoned by those who protect us. Again. Depressing and scary."

The pro-Pal shouts for Zionism to be eradicated from the Middle East in front of a Jewish centre. In full sight and hearing of the @metpoliceuk. A Jewish woman gets upset and seeks help and instead is targeted and abandoned by those who protect us. Again. Depressing and scary. pic.twitter.com/woBaAsWR3A

— Heidi Bachram 🎗️ (@HeidiBachram) October 28, 2024

 

Footage from the event raised concerns about unequal policing practices, as onlookers noted that while a passerby was asked to move along after raising his middle finger at the protestors, demonstrators were seen making similar gestures at the police without consequence. These perceptions of two-tier policing—where certain protests may be met with different levels of law enforcement action—have added to the anxieties felt by some members of the Jewish community.

TWO TIER POLICING IN ONE MORNING.

Outside a peace conference at the JW3 community centre in North London.

The video on the left (now with blurred out face) is of a Jewish man walking his dog who, enraged at the awful chants coming from the pro Hamas lot, gave them the finger.… pic.twitter.com/BSy1Cniw39

— Nicole Lampert (@nicolelampert) October 27, 2024

 

As the protest unfolded, it escalated to include over a hundred demonstrators, some of whom were masked. The crowd attempted to block both entrances to the center, prompting police intervention. “Within 15 minutes a Section 14 notice [imposing restrictions under the Public Order Act] was issued, and within 20 minutes, five police vans arrived,”

 

Simonson noted, recognizing that the police, equipped in full protective gear, worked diligently to defuse the situation. They attempted to speak with protest leaders, eventually moving them across the street by 10:45 am, while remaining on-site to maintain order. “All the police, including the ones here at the start, did their best while facing vile, disgusting hate-fuelled abuse,” Simonson acknowledged.

 

The incident also saw counter-protestors gathering around 11 am, some of whom were accused by an activist across the road of delivering “an onslaught of racist, derogatory heckling from the ‘Zionist Entity’… fueled with genocide and absolute sickness.” In a video she shared, the activist went on to suggest that those present at JW3 were “responsible for what is happening in Palestine… and people will pay for complicity and crimes.”

 

Simonson, directly confronted by protestors, was distressed by accusations leveled at him personally. “I got called a Nazi,” he shared. “That was screamed at me. I got called that for hosting an event designed to talk about solutions to this conflict.” For Simonson, whose mother was born in Nazi-occupied France and whose relatives perished in Auschwitz, these slurs were especially painful. He noted that, regardless of the agenda of the event—be it critical of Israel or not—such inflammatory rhetoric would still be unacceptable.

 

The tension at JW3 comes amidst a backdrop of heightened global anxieties, with recent conflicts adding to the strain. For those who gathered at the community center, the experience underscored the growing divisions and fears surrounding these complex issues, and how these tensions continue to shape everyday interactions and public spaces.

 

Based on a report by Daily Telegraph 2024-11-04

 

 

 

What do "protest" like this achieve thousands of miles away from the war and aimed at people solely because of their religion?
 They would probably think that protests at mosques against atrocities done by Muslims would not make sense.

The far left extremists of old London town taking the piss out of the Met why? because they Khan 🤔

oh the poor Jews!   they generally support a colonialist, racist, apartheid state, which is killing tens of thousands and yet have to endure an "intense protest."    shameful....

I await an announcements about facing the full force of the law, ramping up the criminal prosecutions, examination and prosecutions for Facebook posts..

 

3 hours ago, Social Media said:

These perceptions of two-tier policing—where certain protests may be met with different levels of law enforcement action

And.

3 hours ago, Social Media said:

“Within 15 minutes a Section 14 notice [imposing restrictions under the Public Order Act] was issued, and within 20 minutes, five police vans arrived,”

And

3 hours ago, Social Media said:

Simonson noted, recognizing that the police, equipped in full protective gear, worked diligently to defuse the situation.

The Telegraph up to its usual tricks.

 

The police response clearly does not support The Telegraph’s insistence on ‘a perception’.

 

 

Edited November 4, 20241 yr by Chomper Higgot

9 minutes ago, watchdog2 said:

oh the poor Jews!   they generally support a colonialist, racist, apartheid state, which is killing tens of thousands and yet have to endure an "intense protest."    shameful....

 

Asean Now welcomes yet another antisemite; another Hamas fanboy no doubt.

3 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

I await an announcements about facing the full force of the law, ramping up the criminal prosecutions, examination and prosecutions for Facebook posts..

 

If you have evidence of Facebook posts that are contravention of the law contact the police.

 

Or are you just stroking your need for grievance?

9 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

I await an announcements about facing the full force of the law, ramping up the criminal prosecutions, examination and prosecutions for Facebook posts..

 

 

Left wing protests, and intimidatory protests supporting terrorist organisations are rarely, if ever, prosecuted in  the UK, for fear of offending a certain demographic; and it will only get worse under this appalling new government

Muslims are the majority  immigrants in the UK. They have been allowed to infiltrate local government and have a strong Muslim following in UK Politics. 

 Holding antismenic protests go unpunished by Muslims  when Englismen are jailed for far less. 

2 minutes ago, jippytum said:

Muslims are the majority  immigrants in the UK. They have been allowed to infiltrate local government and have a strong Muslim following in UK Politics. 

 Holding antismenic protests go unpunished by Muslims  when Englismen are jailed for far less. 

You do know people are not ‘allowed into local Government’ they are elected to office?

24 minutes ago, jippytum said:

Holding antismenic protests go unpunished by Muslims  when Englismen are jailed for far less.

 

 

Absolutely, do you remember back in March 2021 when a school teacher from Batley Grammar school in West Yorkshire was hounded out of his job and home by death threats from a baying crowd of muslim fanatics. West Yorkshire police, true to their two-tier policing system, did not make one single arrest; instead, they told the teacher to relocate with his wife and four young children, where they were all given new identities.

 

They are all still in hiding more than 3 years later, their lives totally and utterly destroyed. Radical Islam, a cancer on the world.

 

 

 

35 minutes ago, watchdog2 said:

oh the poor Jews!   they generally support a colonialist, racist, apartheid state, which is killing tens of thousands and yet have to endure an "intense protest."    shameful....

Colonialist - No, they inhabit a land that was historically theirs several hundred years before Mohammed and Islam existed.

Racist - No, Arabs of many different groups represent just over 20% of the Israeli population and they enjoy the same rights as any Jew.

Apartheid - No, they are classified as Israeli citizens, however they are NOT required to serve in the military.  For an Arab Israeli military service is voluntary and they cannot be conscripted.

And the poor protesters support a proscribed terrorist regime that took power by force and calls for the destruction of Israel and slaughter of its citizens.

39 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

If you have evidence of Facebook posts that are contravention of the law contact the police.

 

Or are you just stroking your need for grievance?

Seem to have stroked a grievance with you though haven't I Chomper?

This is the result when the left demonize Jews and downplay the reality of anti-semitism.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/diane-abbott-accused-of-hateful-antisemitism-after-suggesting-jews-do-not-face-racism-12864141

 

54 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And.

And

The Telegraph up to its usual tricks.

 

The police response clearly does not support The Telegraph’s insistence on ‘a perception’.

 

 

? Why have you deliberately ignored what the article was referencing when it mentioned the "perceptions"? Did you bother to read it?

 

The fact the article then went onto report that "Within 15 minutes a Section 14 notice" was imposed does not give much evidence to this claim of yours:

 

"The Telegraph up to its usual tricks."

 

What tricks? What is insistence on a perception?

 

The police response clearly does not support The Telegraph’s insistence on ‘a perception’.

 

1 hour ago, watchdog2 said:

oh the poor Jews!   they generally support a colonialist, racist, apartheid state, which is killing tens of thousands and yet have to endure an "intense protest."    shameful....

Sick post 

 

From the article:

 

"What stabbed at my heart is they filmed and harassed Sharone Lif<deleted>z who attended the peace conference. Her 84 year old father Oded is a hostage now. He would drive Gazans to hospital. This is truly sick."

1 hour ago, watchdog2 said:

oh the poor Jews!   they generally support a colonialist, racist, apartheid state, which is killing tens of thousands and yet have to endure an "intense protest."    shameful....

 

  That isn't true , quite a lot of U.K Jews oppose the Israeli state , if the U.K Jews are Zionists , then they probably would have moved to Israeli to live .

   Monday morning and we've already had Racism , Sexism and Anti Semitism from Lefties .............along with the "Conservatives are racists" 🙂

An off topic rant making unsubstaniated claims has been removed @watchdog2

14 minutes ago, watchdog2 said:

Errrmm 🙂

 

   This story is about British people in the U.K , this story isn't  about Israel or Israelis .

   The U.K and Israel are two different Countries thousands of miles away from each other on different continents 

Edited November 4, 20241 yr by Nick Carter icp

I'm surprised the police didn't join in the chants, they have form.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9591281/Scotland-Yard-probes-footage-police-officer-hugging-activist-chanting-free-Palestine.html

 

 

Or maybe threaten arrest of the Jews for being "openly Jewish" and too near the protestors. 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68856360

 

 

This is what happens when you have a leftist Labour Mayor Sadiq Khan heading up The Met. 

They should all move to Texas and exercise their right to keep and bear arms (which they can do as a legal immigrant under conditions).

 

The best answer to an anti semite is a Tavor.

Gee, I wonder why... 🤔

Smells like Leftists stirring up trouble. No doubt about it.

5 hours ago, Social Media said:

I’d defend the rights of anyone to protest, even outside this building, but when you shout ‘Nazis’ and ‘baby killers’ in the face of British Jews whose families have suffered at the hands of Nazis then that is not about sending a message of anything other than intimidation.”

People are over sensitive these days.

 

Kemi Badenoch is an excellent choice for the new Tory leader; she upholds true conservative values, in stark contrast to Sunak who was dragging the party to the left.

 

She is vehemently anti-woke, anti illegal immigration, and she vociferously supports JK Rowling, Sharron Davies, and all the others that are trying to defend women’s rights against the tiny, screaming minority known as the Trans Lobby; a lobby that is trying to dismantle women’s rights, insisting that men in frocks should be able to take part in women’s sports, and that if you refuse to call Bert, Beatrice, you should be prosecuted.

 

She is the only hope the Tories have of preventing Reform from gaining all the supports lost by Sunak.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

? Why have you deliberately ignored what the article was referencing when it mentioned the "perceptions"? Did you bother to read it?

 

The fact the article then went onto report that "Within 15 minutes a Section 14 notice" was imposed does not give much evidence to this claim of yours:

 

"The Telegraph up to its usual tricks."

 

What tricks? What is insistence on a perception?

 

The police response clearly does not support The Telegraph’s insistence on ‘a perception’.

 

Clearly the police responded swiftly and decisively.

 

There is no evidence in the police response to this incident that justifies the Telegraph comment I remarked on.

 

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Clearly the police responded swiftly and decisively.

 

There is no evidence in the police response to this incident that justifies the Telegraph comment I remarked on.

 

So you didn't read it then. The statement by a Jew that was there..........

 

Outside a peace conference at the JW3 community centre in North London. 

The video on the left (now with blurred out face) is of a Jewish man walking his dog who, enraged at the awful chants coming from the pro Hamas lot, gave them the finger. As you can see, he was pushed away by police and warned that if he didn’t leave he’d face arrest. 

The video on the right shows someone in the pro Hamas group, giving a Jewish person the finger in front of a police officer who did nothing. 

The two tier element couldn’t be starker. 

For more than year British Jews have had to put up with this light policing of groups of people who are not shy about expressing their support of the aims of Hamas. 

This is emboldening and radicalising people. It puts us all in danger. 

 

Again what tricks?

 

"The Telegraph up to its usual tricks."

 

 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

So you didn't read it then. The statement by a Jew that was there..........

 

Outside a peace conference at the JW3 community centre in North London. 

The video on the left (now with blurred out face) is of a Jewish man walking his dog who, enraged at the awful chants coming from the pro Hamas lot, gave them the finger. As you can see, he was pushed away by police and warned that if he didn’t leave he’d face arrest. 

The video on the right shows someone in the pro Hamas group, giving a Jewish person the finger in front of a police officer who did nothing. 

The two tier element couldn’t be starker. 

For more than year British Jews have had to put up with this light policing of groups of people who are not shy about expressing their support of the aims of Hamas. 

This is emboldening and radicalising people. It puts us all in danger. 

 

Again what tricks?

 

"The Telegraph up to its usual tricks."

 

 

 

 

 

I’m not sure if you are aware but a duty of the police is to keep the peace.

 

There’s a ‘protest’ which the police are controlling and someone body approaches and confronts the ‘protesters’, the police move him on and I doing so remove a likely confrontation, obviously a reasonable act by the police.

…

But let me give my view on the ‘protest’.

 

I think the ‘protest’ is actually intimidation of an obviously innocent community.

I absolutely support the police invoking Section 14 of the Public Order Act and I would like to see them investigate and  prosecute to the full extent of the law those who took part in this ‘protest’ for obvious acts of intimidation and race hate.

 

….

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not sure if you are aware but a duty of the police is to keep the peace.

 

There’s a ‘protest’ which the police are controlling and someone body approaches and confronts the ‘protesters’, the police move him on and I doing so remove a likely confrontation, obviously a reasonable act by the police.

…

But let me give my view on the ‘protest’.

 

I think the ‘protest’ is actually intimidation of an obviously innocent community.

I absolutely support the police invoking Section 14 of the Public Order Act and I would like to see them investigate and  prosecute to the full extent of the law those who took part in this ‘protest’ for obvious acts of intimidation and race hate.

 

….

 

 

 

Still waiting for evidence to your claims...........

 

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Telegraph up to its usual tricks.

 

The police response clearly does not support The Telegraph’s insistence on ‘a perception’.