Biden lifts restrictions on Ukraine using US weapons to strike deep inside Russia.

[scottiejohn]

2 hours ago, anandra said:

Bro thank you so much I buy you a beer if you come to us in Nonthaburi. they do  not have eggs in the supermarkets and the guys were stealing packs of  butter. Do you want a video from russian supermarket,I can send/. This is not from American lying news, this is from russian true news))

What has "Nonthaburi" got to do with my question regarding russian shopping?

[scottiejohn]

24 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Do you actually have am opinion of your own based on facts and things that have effected you directly

Do you?

[Cryingdick]

Apparently land mines are now warm and fuzzy and not evil he is suggesting they use those now. Have to admit the term ATCMS Attack-ups sound cute. Like a snack you put in your kids lunch box.

[frank83628]

44 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Do you?

There have been many comments today, I didn't follow them all as I was busy, can you elaborate a bit from the 2 words that I am suppose to know?

[frank83628]

3 hours ago, anandra said:

Bro thank you so much I buy you a beer if you come to us in Nonthaburi. they do  not have eggs in the supermarkets and the guys were stealing packs of  butter. Do you want a video from russian supermarket,I can send/. This is not from American lying news, this is from russian true news))

And you say others are alcos... think you been on the wadka since 7am

[anandra]

5 hours ago, frank83628 said:

And you say others are alcos... think you been on the wadka since 7am

not others only ruski pigs. have seen so many jumping off the balcony from russki but I am happy the less ruski meat the sooner the end of this war. if you want this war to finish you must help me in ruski destruction, can you??

[anandra]

it means ruskies are brainless idiots nothing more

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, anandra said:

not others only ruski pigs. have seen so many jumping off the balcony from russki but I am happy the less ruski meat the sooner the end of this war. if you want this war to finish you must help me in ruski destruction, can you??

Not sure how writing on a Thai forum, full of old age pensioners is helping the destruction of Russia. 

[pattayasan]

7 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Apparently land mines are now warm and fuzzy and not evil he is suggesting they use those now. Have to admit the term ATCMS Attack-ups sound cute. Like a snack you put in your kids lunch box.

 

Yep, now the victims get to go home with only one foot and tell everybody how war is hell for the rest of their lives.

 

ATACMS does sound cute. The especially sweet thing about ATACMS is that they are guided and only used on valuable military targets, unlike glide bombs.

[Cryingdick]

3 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

Yep, now the victims get to go home with only one foot and tell everybody how war is hell for the rest of their lives.

 

ATACMS does sound cute. The especially sweet thing about ATACMS is that they are guided and only used on valuable military targets, unlike glide bombs.

 

Whenever Ukraine is ready to give up they can. They can't fight forever they are fighting on borrowed time and money. They have no path to victory there will be nobody left to fight in two years. Is this worth it for territory they are never getting back? 

[pattayasan]

Just now, Cryingdick said:

 

Whenever Ukraine is ready to give up they can. They can't fight forever they are fighting on borrowed time and money. They have no path to victory there will be nobody left to fight in two years. Is this worth it for territory they are never getting back? 

 

Sure they can. Neville Chamberlain said the same thing. Let's reward the invaders even when they commit massive war crimes. Ask the Poles and Finns about territory.

[Cryingdick]

3 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

Sure they can. Neville Chamberlain said the same thing. Let's reward the invaders even when they commit massive war crimes. Ask the Poles and Finns about territory.

We shall see. I think your sort of wreckless dreaming will just end up in body bags.

[pattayasan]

1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

We shall see. I think your sort of wreckless dreaming will just end up in body bags.

 

Invading Ukraine wasn't reckless but defending it is now?

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, jas007 said:

How has this decline affected the people inside Russia? Russia has oil and natural gas. Russia has minerals. Russia has food.  It seems almost like a closed system. 

Germany and Euro countries need Russia more than Russia needs them. Russia can give the finger salute to the US.

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, pattayasan said:

 

Invading Ukraine wasn't reckless but defending it is now?

 

Letting Russia take Crimea unanswered was reckless. That was a jewel of Ukraine. They are fighting over wasteland and rubble now.

[frank83628]

8 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Apparently land mines are now warm and fuzzy and not evil he is suggesting they use those now. Have to admit the term ATCMS Attack-ups sound cute. Like a snack you put in your kids lunch box.

Were Ukraine issued cluster bombs or something else banned under international law.? I seem to remember reading something like that

[pattayasan]

2 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Letting Russia take Crimea unanswered was reckless. That was a jewel of Ukraine. They are fighting over wasteland and rubble now.

 

Yeah, like in 2014 what was Ukraine going to do about it? Crimea was a wake up call. Putin miscalculated in 2022.

[thaibeachlovers]

11 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Whenever Ukraine is ready to give up they can. They can't fight forever they are fighting on borrowed time and money. They have no path to victory there will be nobody left to fight in two years. Is this worth it for territory they are never getting back? 

If Zelensky gives up now and doesn't escape on a submarine to Sth America he likely faces the same fate as Il Duce. IMO.

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

Were Ukraine issued cluster bombs or something else banned under international law.? I seem to remember reading something like that

 

It really shouldn't matter anyway it is warfare we are talking about. By all means let it escalate in the false hope Ukraine has a chance.

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, pattayasan said:

 

Yeah, like in 2014 what was Ukraine going to do about it? Crimea was a wake up call. Putin miscalculated in 2022.

 

It set the precedent. Should they fight until they get Crimea back?

[pattayasan]

Just now, Cryingdick said:

It set the precedent. Should they fight until they get Crimea back?

 

Yes, and until Russia pays reparations to compensate Ukraine. Keep bombing Moscow until Putin gets it.

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, pattayasan said:

 

Yes, and until Russia pays reparations to compensate Ukraine. Keep bombing Moscow until Putin gets it.

 

If the fatality rates hold steady Ukraine has a little over a year before all their soldiers are dead. Then what? Fight on?

[pattayasan]

Just now, Cryingdick said:

If the fatality rates hold steady Ukraine has a little over a year before all their soldiers are dead. Then what? Fight on?

 

At that point Russia will find itself a pariah nation for the next century. Broke and rife with poverty and internal division.

[Cryingdick]

The Ukrainians themselves are tired of dying. Next Putin will take out all the power and energy. That is going to be brutal. But some Australian guy in Pattaya can't get over himself so let the insanity continue.

 

https://nypost.com/2024/11/19/world-news/most-ukrainians-want-a-quick-negotiated-end-to-war-with-russia-gallup-poll/

 

 

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, pattayasan said:

 

At that point Russia will find itself a pariah nation for the next century. Broke and rife with poverty and internal division.

 

That doesn't help Ukraine.

[pattayasan]

3 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

That doesn't help Ukraine.

 

When did Russia help Ukraine? I'm totally not getting this attitude that Ukraine should somehow reward Putin for murdering Ukrainian babies. Maybe you can explain that logic to me a little more clearly?

[Cryingdick]

4 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

When did Russia help Ukraine? I'm totally not getting this attitude that Ukraine should somehow reward Putin for murdering Ukrainian babies. Maybe you can explain that logic to me a little more clearly?

 

If there is a negotiated settlement maybe the western portion of Ukraine including Kyiv and Lviv can become a part of NATO and gain protection. At that point Putin can bankrupt himself trying to rebuild what little is left of the east.

 

Even if some miracle happens and Ukraine somehow regain all of their territory back they have inherited a house that his a tear down. So cut the cancer off and put resources in the healthy part. Otherwise many people are going to freeze and starve this winter fighting for land they don't have the resources to fix.

 

 

Edited 16 hours ago by Cryingdick

[pattayasan]

7 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

If there is a negotiated settlement maybe the western portion of Ukraine including Kyiv and Lviv can become a part of NATO and gain protection. At that point Putin can bankrupt himself trying to rebuild what little is left of the east.

 

Even if some miracle happens and Ukraine somehow regain all of their territory back they have inherited a house that his a tear down. So cut the cancer off and put resources in the healthy part. Otherwise many people are going to freeze and starve this winter fighting for land they don't have the resources to fix.

 

Putin has never suggested that Ukraine can join NATO, quite the opposite. He's not just trying to annex Crimea and the Donbas. Stop insulting our intelligence.

[Cryingdick]

3 minutes ago, pattayasan said:

 

Putin has never suggested that Ukraine can join NATO, quite the opposite. He's not just trying to annex Crimea and the Donbas. Stop insulting our intelligence.

That's the negotiation. He gets the east the west gets the west. The other option is Kyiv is eventually reduced to a pile of rubble. 

 

 

Edited 16 hours ago by Cryingdick

[pattayasan]

1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

That's the negotiation. He gets the east the west gets the west. The other option is Kyiv is eventually reduced to a pile of rubble. 

 

Cut the never ever mooted hypotheticals. You are not an international diplomat.