December 4, 20241 yr Popular Post Are the fact checkers on this....or is it only El Orangino, supreme leader that gets checked?
December 4, 20241 yr Outsider looking in (and I see loads of US comments on politics outside their own country inc. on this forum so....) Seems to me that Presidential pardons should be scrapped entirely. They are clearly open to abuse by both sides, as seen here with Biden doing a rapid about-turn. Obama gave plenty out and on the Trump side, he gave loads too e.g. Jared Kushners's father, who is being lined up as prospective US Ambassador to France. In my home country (UK), the various honours lists inc. those of departing PM's in particular are not a lot better except convicted criminals generally don't get them and they can be rescinded e.g. Fred Goodwin, Conrad Black. They are still a joke though. Edited December 4, 20241 yr by MarkyM3
December 4, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, MarkyM3 said: Outsider looking in (and I see loads of US comments on politics outside their own country inc. on this forum so....) Seems to me that Presidential pardons should be scrapped entirely. They are clearly open to abuse by both sides, as seen here with Biden doing a rapid about-turn. Obama gave plenty out and on the Trump side, he gave loads too e.g. Jared Kushners's father, who is being lined up as prospective US Ambassador to France. In my home country (UK), the various honours lists inc. those of departing PM's in particular are not a lot better except convicted criminals generally don't get them and they can be rescinded e.g. Fred Goodwin, Conrad Black. They are still a joke though. Hey outsider looking in , Presidential Pardons are ok! Have been for decades, even the controversial ones, Nixon comes to mind.But this one prevents investigations into Joe. This is the third time a family member has been pardoned! But the uniqueness of this pardon unlike all the others is ,Its surrounded by lies.Biden & others repeatedly said he would not pardon and when he does ,he lies again , below is another lie that he made in his Pardon statement . “For my entire career I have followed a simple principle: just tell the American people the truth”. Biden lied about his son making money in China. Biden lied about never meeting his sons business partners, Biden lied in the 2020 debates about the 51 intel agents saying his sons Laptop was Russian conspiracy. https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/family-members-received-presidential-pardons/ https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-pardon-statement-taxes-guns-2020149a8dfe314295f73ef7a4b0f732# Edited December 4, 20241 yr by riclag
December 4, 20241 yr On 12/3/2024 at 4:16 PM, Lacessit said: At least there is only one. With Trump, it will be two. except Trump wont and didnt fail.... same same but different!
December 5, 20241 yr On 12/1/2024 at 11:06 PM, Taboo2 said: Special message to my peeps locked up due to Jan 6 phony convictions...freedom is coming. No its not sleazeball. They'll keep them locked up and include you with them for good measure
December 5, 20241 yr On 12/3/2024 at 11:12 AM, brewsterbudgen said: Perhaps Biden should pardon Donald Trump before he leaves office? "Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.) said President-elect Trump deserves a pardon in a Thursday appearance on “The View” shortly after President Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden. “I think that it’s undeniable that the case against Hunter Biden was really politically motivated but I also think it’s true that the trial in New York for Trump was political as well, too,” he told host Joy Behar. “In both cases I think a pardon is appropriate and I really think collectively that America’s confidence in these types of institutions have been damaged by these kinds of cases, and we cannot allow these types of institutions to be weaponized against our political opponents,” he added." https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5025241-fetterman-says-trump-should-be-pardoned-of-new-york-conviction/
December 5, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, TheAppletons said: "Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.) said President-elect Trump deserves a pardon in a Thursday appearance on “The View” shortly after President Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden. “I think that it’s undeniable that the case against Hunter Biden was really politically motivated but I also think it’s true that the trial in New York for Trump was political as well, too,” he told host Joy Behar. “In both cases I think a pardon is appropriate and I really think collectively that America’s confidence in these types of institutions have been damaged by these kinds of cases, and we cannot allow these types of institutions to be weaponized against our political opponents,” he added." https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5025241-fetterman-says-trump-should-be-pardoned-of-new-york-conviction/ Trump has no outstanding federal legal issues to pardon.
December 5, 20241 yr 18 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: Trump has no outstanding federal legal issues to pardon. I'm certain that Senator Fetterman would be delighted to hear from you.
December 5, 20241 yr Author 4 minutes ago, TheAppletons said: I'm certain that Senator Fetterman would be delighted to hear from you. I would ask him what is the pardon for?
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