Brits, hope may be on the way: Musk!

[BigStar]

And just like that, things are now looking up for Farage.

 

 

But then, yesterday, came a bombshell poll which, for the first time in history, put Nigel Farage’s Reform party ahead of the incumbent Labour Party.

 

Sitting comfortably on 24% —Reform’s highest share of the vote with any pollster since the election—Farage’s party has not only overtaken Labour but is also within the margin of error of overtaking the Tories, who are only 2-points ahead, on 26%.

     --A bombshell new poll -why Reform is surging

 

 

[riclag]

I was at a party with many falang’s recently.

The falangs  from  socialist countries  didn’t participate im my circle of Starmer discussions!

The general consensus was  Bravo Musk!

[josephbloggs]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

I was at a party with many falang’s recently.

The falangs  from  socialist countries  didn’t participate im my circle of Starmer discussions!

The general consensus was  Bravo Musk!

Sounds like quite a party!

[BigStar]

Winning . . .

 

Winning Another Seat from Labour.

 

Nigel Farage’s Reform Party has gained another council seat from the ruling Labour Party. In a local by-election held in St Helens, Liverpool, on Thursday night, Reform candidate Victor Floyd secured victory in the Blackbrook ward, defeating Labour’s Sally Yeoman.

     --https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/12/14/farages-reform-party-gains-ground-winning-another-seat-from-labour/

[RayC]

17 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Winning . . .

 

Winning Another Seat from Labour.

 

Nigel Farage’s Reform Party has gained another council seat from the ruling Labour Party. In a local by-election held in St Helens, Liverpool, on Thursday night, Reform candidate Victor Floyd secured victory in the Blackbrook ward, defeating Labour’s Sally Yeoman.

     --https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/12/14/farages-reform-party-gains-ground-winning-another-seat-from-labour/

 

Almost completely irrelevant to anyone outside of the Blackbrook ward. The next general election is 4 years away. 

 

In any event, the turnout for this council election was 15% which, if it shows anything, is a disenchantment with politics by most of the UK electorate.

[BigStar]

7 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

Almost completely irrelevant to anyone outside of the Blackbrook ward. The next general election is 4 years away. 

 

In any event, the turnout for this council election was 15% which, if it shows anything, is a disenchantment with politics by most of the UK electorate.

 

A journey of a thousand miles . . . .

 

 

 

[RayC]

2 hours ago, BigStar said:

 

A journey of a thousand miles . . . .

 

 

 

 

... would take 500 hours at a leisurely 2mph pace. It will certainly take Reform a lot longer than that to gain power.

 

I'm puzzled by the relevance of the video to a council by-election result in St. Helens? The video appears to be of a police raid conducted in Bethnel Green, London, which is some 200 miles from St. Helens.

[BigStar]

11 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

... would take 500 hours at a leisurely 2mph【3,2 km/h】 pace. It will certainly take Reform a lot longer than that to gain power.

 

I'm puzzled by the relevance of the video to a council by-election result in St. Helens? The video appears to be of a police raid conducted in Bethnel Green, London, which is some 200 miles【322 km】 from St. Helens.

 

Perhaps the relevance may be that people in St. Helens have voted in hope that someday they needn't fear such police raids in St. Helens.

 

[RayC]

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

 

Perhaps the relevance may be that people in St. Helens have voted in hope that someday they needn't fear such police raids in St. Helens.

 

 

I doubt very much that fear of a police raid figured highly in the reasons for voting among the 800 or so people who voted in the recent St. Helens council by-election.

 

I also doubt that worrying about a possible police raid is particularly high on the list of 'Things to Fear' for the overwhelming majority of the +/-70m people who live in the UK.

[BigStar]

45 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

I doubt very much that fear of a police raid figured highly in the reasons for voting among the 800 or so people who voted in the recent St. Helens council by-election.

 

I also doubt that worrying about a possible police raid is particularly high on the list of 'Things to Fear' for the overwhelming majority of the +/-70m people who live in the UK.

 

That hardly needs to be the ONLY factor, you see. Perhaps it's one of many. Perhaps they also don't like police raids happening elsewhere. More broadly, they may not like the wide restrictions on free speech throughout the country. The person who associated the video w/ St. Helens seems to have thought so. You may disagree, but who cares? You may argue it was about potholes if you wish.

 

Fact remains that Farage did pick up another council seat. Is it another indicator of momentum? Maybe, maybe not. Will there be many more? We'll need to wait and see.

[RayC]

13 hours ago, BigStar said:

 

That hardly needs to be the ONLY factor, you see. Perhaps it's one of many. Perhaps they also don't like police raids happening elsewhere. More broadly, they may not like the wide restrictions on free speech throughout the country. The person who associated the video w/ St. Helens seems to have thought so. You may disagree, but who cares? You may argue it was about potholes if you wish.

 

Fact remains that Farage did pick up another council seat. Is it another indicator of momentum? Maybe, maybe not. Will there be many more? We'll need to wait and see.

 

Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps ... In other words, it is idle speculation with nothing to support it. 

 

It is a fact that Reform picked up another council seat and that the polls show increased support for them. However, these events are of very little importance in relation to national governance.

 

The result of an individual council by-election holds no importance for anyone living outside of the local council area.

 

It might be argued that the current increased support for Reform shows that they have the wind behind them, and it might lead to an increase in donations and their membership however, unless there is an unforeseen event, the next general election will not take place until 2028 at the earliest. Therefore Reform's current momentum is of little significance. Let's see where they are in 3 years time.

 

You may disagree but, "who cares"?