Any recent changes to the TM30 document?

[Fiskebolle]

Hello Folks,

 

Done recently a TM30 upon returning back into the country from a short trip.
 

I've done the TM30 myself on the website from immigration and was succesfull *(as usual). On the overview page, I can see that the status is highlighted in green color as; "INFORMED". However, to my surprise, the actual TM30 doc *(when downloading in pdf), does no status at all. It's confusing now to say the least. Has anyone else noticed these changes? Looks like the overall format of the pdf has changed, apart most other details are still on there...

Cheers,

 

FB

[josephbloggs]

1 hour ago, Fiskebolle said:

Hello Folks,

 

Done recently a TM30 upon returning back into the country from a short trip.
 

I've done the TM30 myself on the website from immigration and was succesfull *(as usual). On the overview page, I can see that the status is highlighted in green color as; "INFORMED". However, to my surprise, the actual TM30 doc *(when downloading in pdf), does no status at all. It's confusing now to say the least. Has anyone else noticed these changes? Looks like the overall format of the pdf has changed, apart most other details are still on there...

Cheers,

 

FB

I noticed the same thing.

[ronnie50]

I'm also trying to understand this, and in my case, a bit worried as I'm preparing to apply for O visa (and eventual extension for retirement). A google translation seemed to suggest that the title of the portrait one-page A4 document was maybe just an acknowledgment that updated status had been 'submitted' (but silent otherwise). As you say it's not clear. I'm asking the landlord to send a screenshot of the "Informed" webpage with the green checkmark just so I have both to hand at Immigration.

 

 

[bamnutsak]

On 12/6/2024 at 7:24 PM, Fiskebolle said:

the actual TM30 doc *(when downloading in pdf), does no status at all.

 

Is there a date in the "Inform Date" field?

 

On 12/6/2024 at 7:24 PM, Fiskebolle said:

Looks like the overall format of the pdf has changed

 

Can you describe these changes, or post a redacted copy?

[josephbloggs]

9 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

 

Is there a date in the "Inform Date" field?

 

 

Can you describe these changes, or post a redacted copy?

Here's one I did  a month or so ago (which is exactly like all my previous ones) vs one done a week or so ago.

I have done these many times so I filled out the online notification in exactly the same way as I have always done. I'm not worrying about it - I figure they just changed something and that's it.

[Pattaya57]

I don't see a problem. New format is missing the informed date but still has the check-in date. If that's what the online system spits out why worry?

 

Also as you are supposed to report within 24 hours of check-in date, removing the informed date is actually good for us. If I arrived at my condo 1-Dec and only informed them 7-Dec, technically I'd be liable for a fine. Now it doesn't seem to matter when informed date is

 

[josephbloggs]

2 hours ago, Pattaya57 said:

I don't see a problem. New format is missing the informed date but still has the check-in date. If that's what the online system spits out why worry?

 

Maybe you missed the bit where I said, "I'm not worrying about it - I figure they just changed something and that's it."

[Pattaya57]

2 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Maybe you missed the bit where I said, "I'm not worrying about it - I figure they just changed something and that's it."

Maybe you missed the bit where you're not the OP so I wasn't talking to you lol

[josephbloggs]

34 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

Maybe you missed the bit where you're not the OP so I wasn't talking to you lol

Maybe you missed the quote button so it is obvious who you are replying to.

[Pattaya57]

31 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Maybe you missed the quote button so it is obvious who you are replying to.

No need to quote OP as they get a notification for every message on their thread (and thread would get quite clogged if everyone quoted OP when responding in thread). I also didn't quote you which I would have if replying to you. 

 

Why do you care so much about who is responding to who in the thread?

 

[EVENKEEL]

Please help me to understand. Do folks with 12 month extensions report a TM 30 every time they travel around Thailand for a few days? My TM 30 is stapled in my Passport and updated yearly when I apply for extension and that's it. 

[DrJack54]

6 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Please help me to understand. Do folks with 12 month extensions report a TM 30 every time they travel around Thailand for a few days?

For my first 12 years I had never made one TM30.

Extensions based on retirement dealing with CW.

For my most recent extension I had my condo office me a TM30 as seemed required. 

Never do one after local and international travel. 

As usual immigration offices vary.

[EVENKEEL]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

For my first 12 years I had never made one TM30.

Extensions based on retirement dealing with CW.

For my most recent extension I had my condo office me a TM30 as seemed required. 

Never do one after local and international travel. 

As usual immigration offices vary.

5 yrs ago they made a call to the old lady and that was it for my tm 30

[MangoKorat]

7 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Please help me to understand. Do folks with 12 month extensions report a TM 30 every time they travel around Thailand for a few days? My TM 30 is stapled in my Passport and updated yearly when I apply for extension and that's it. 

My understanding (from previous threads) is that those on 12 month extensions/12 month Non O's only have to report TM30 again upon extension/visa renewal and on change of address.  I often wondered if a trip out of the country or a stay at a Thai hotel for example would cancel your TM30 registration - most replies I've seen say not, providing you return to the registered address but I'd be checking that with your immigration office.

[EVENKEEL]

2 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

My understanding (from previous threads) is that those on 12 month extensions/12 month Non O's only have to report TM30 again upon extension/visa renewal and on change of address.  I often wondered if a trip out of the country or a stay at a Thai hotel for example would cancel your TM30 registration - most replies I've seen say not, providing you return to the registered address but I'd be checking that with your immigration office.

No, I won't be checking with anyone. It's never been as issue whether international travel or domestic throughout Thailand. I was just curious about others posting about it.

 

 

[madisongy]

On 12/8/2024 at 5:49 AM, josephbloggs said:

Here's one I did  a month or so ago (which is exactly like all my previous ones) vs one done a week or so ago.

I have done these many times so I filled out the online notification in exactly the same way as I have always done. I'm not worrying about it - I figure they just changed something and that's it.

 

Thanks much for the examples.   I own a condo in Bkk, set up the website for that address, and plan to fill out the name, passport, address, check in date, etc when we arrive.  We will stay for 82 days.   I was curious about the "Check out date" and the resulting "Number of nights" and noticed you left it blank.  

I may be applying for an extension, in which case we would be there until May 28 and I could input that check out date.  However, we may be making a trip out of Thailand around day 45.  In this case, can I leave the check out date blank?   Or would I fill in May 28, and then modify the check out date once we firm up the trip plans, and then file a new TM30 upon re-entry to Thailand?

Additionally, we may be completing some in country travel.....one by car, and one by air, both under a week, and both returning to the residence indicated on the original TM30.  What are the rules for TM30 regarding these types of travel.

Thanks for any help on this.

 

 

 

[josephbloggs]

49 minutes ago, madisongy said:

Thanks much for the examples.   I own a condo in Bkk, set up the website for that address, and plan to fill out the name, passport, address, check in date, etc when we arrive.  We will stay for 82 days.   I was curious about the "Check out date" and the resulting "Number of nights" and noticed you left it blank.  

 

The check out date and number of nights are not compulsory fields so I leave them blank as I live here and don't know how many nights I will stay - I figure that is more for hotels to complete, but as it is non compulsory leave it blank.

 

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I may be applying for an extension, in which case we would be there until May 28 and I could input that check out date.  However, we may be making a trip out of Thailand around day 45.  In this case, can I leave the check out date blank?   Or would I fill in May 28, and then modify the check out date once we firm up the trip plans, and then file a new TM30 upon re-entry to Thailand?

I am no expert to answer definitively on this at all. Personally I would leave the check out date blank then do a new TM30 upon re-entry to Thailand. That is what I do after foreign trips anyway, whether that is right or wrong I am not sure but better to be safe than sorry. If you are coming in visa exempt then probably no need to bother as you are leaving again soon but if you plan on staying long term I would just do it - it literally takes less than a minute anyway.

 

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Additionally, we may be completing some in country travel.....one by car, and one by air, both under a week, and both returning to the residence indicated on the original TM30.  What are the rules for TM30 regarding these types of travel.

Thanks for any help on this.

99% sure you don't need to do a TM30 after travel within Thailand.

 

[madisongy]

12 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

The check out date and number of nights are not compulsory fields so I leave them blank as I live here and don't know how many nights I will stay - I figure that is more for hotels to complete, but as it is non compulsory leave it blank.

 

I am no expert to answer definitively on this at all. Personally I would leave the check out date blank then do a new TM30 upon re-entry to Thailand. That is what I do after foreign trips anyway, whether that is right or wrong I am not sure but better to be safe than sorry. If you are coming in visa exempt then probably no need to bother as you are leaving again soon but if you plan on staying long term I would just do it - it literally takes less than a minute anyway.

 

99% sure you don't need to do a TM30 after travel within Thailand.

 

Thanks for taking time to respond Joseph.   Your suggestions sound reasonable to me.