Time for a System Change ?

[nobodysfriend]

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

IMO the answers could lie in taxation, and consensus.

 

Plastic waste has been found at the bottom of the Marianas Trench. Microplastics are in our bodies.

 

Subsidize and incentivize biodegradable plastics, every step of the way. Tax the daylights out of any plastic which is not biodegradable.

 

The Montreal Protocol of 1987 was agreed on by most nations, to eliminate the use of ozone-depleting chemicals, which were destroying the ozone layer. Its success can be measured by the fact the ozone layer is slowly recovering to pre-1980 levels.

 

Consensus on limiting the use of fossil fuels is a much more difficult task, due to a rearguard action by fossil fuel companies. Like plastics, taxation may be the answer. Nations that drag their heels get left behind.

 

I don't have a problem with people getting rich. When it is at a cost to the environment, it is time to say whoa.

 

The first intellectual attractive post so far .

Thanks for that .

[Airalee]

28 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

No way I want to " dictate " anything to anybody . I am not a dictator .

Yes , I am privileged , compared to many others , I know that , So what ?

I am not responsible for other people , I help when I see an emergency , I manage to keep my heart open .

But my priority is to help reduce the suffering of animals here on the island .

We rescued 32 dogs by now from a certain , painful death and gave them a new life , to take good care for all of them , I have to spend about 80000 baht a month . I do not care for the money , they give something back to me that is worth more than this . Loyalty , Honesty , Love .

I have a house that is off-grid , powered exclusively by solar . ( I have another house , a conventional one as well ) , but I prefer the small off grid one because it's location near the mangroves and a beautiful lake .

I think , I will sell the big luxury one , because I do not really need it anymore ...

What do you do ...?

Ok Mr. 1%

 

Keep on virtue signaling

 

Matthew 6:1-4

[nobodysfriend]

Just now, Airalee said:

Ok Mr. 1%

 

Keep on virtue signaling

 

Matthew 6:1-4

You sound so jealous ... how old are you ?

Religious ?

[Yagoda]

46 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

No way I want to " dictate " anything to anybody . I am not a dictator .

Yes , I am privileged , compared to many others , I know that , So what ?

I am not responsible for other people , I help when I see an emergency , I manage to keep my heart open .

But my priority is to help reduce the suffering of animals here on the island .

We rescued 32 dogs by now from a certain , painful death and gave them a new life , to take good care for all of them , I have to spend about 80000 baht a month . I do not care for the money , they give something back to me that is worth more than this . Loyalty , Honesty , Love .

I have a house that is off-grid , powered exclusively by solar . ( I have another house , a conventional one as well ) , but I prefer the small off grid one because it's location near the mangroves and a beautiful lake .

I think , I will sell the big luxury one , because I do not really need it anymore ...

What do you do ...?

Feed a lot of poor people for 80K a month do you.

 

No, dogs. People starve, feed dogs. Check your privs biggly. You sound like a Brown undergrad.

 

 

[Yagoda]

16 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

You sound so jealous ... how old are you ?

Religious ?

He one of the rare folks here who can critically think

[nobodysfriend]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Feed a lot of poor people for 80K a month do you.

 

No, dogs. People starve, feed dogs. Check your privs biggly. You sound like a Brown undergrad.

 

 

 

I prefer dogs to people . They do not lie , steal and are thankful for what they get ...

People are not .

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Subsidize and incentivize biodegradable plastics, every step of the way. Tax the daylights out of any plastic which is not biodegradable.

Most plastics are NOT biodegradable.  So basically you will taxing most all plastic.

 

More taxes never solve anything, as they simply waste more, if they have more.

[nobodysfriend]

14 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Most plastics are NOT biodegradable.  So basically you will taxing most all plastic.

 

More taxes never solve anything, as they simply waste more, if they have more.

 

Non bio-degradable plastic is too cheap . It needs to become expensive , and the problem disappears alone ...

[Airalee]

33 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Feed a lot of poor people for 80K a month do you.

 

No, dogs. People starve, feed dogs. Check your privs biggly. You sound like a Brown undergrad.

 

 

Poor people won’t bow down, lick his feet and show him the adulation that he deserves.

[nobodysfriend]

2 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Poor people won’t bow down, lick his feet and show him the adulation that he deserves.

 

You would not have helped him , I am sure ... well we did ... he was tortured by people .

 

Now he is happy and healthy with us .

 

Ever done something good in your life ...?

 

[Lacessit]

25 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Most plastics are NOT biodegradable.  So basically you will taxing most all plastic.

 

More taxes never solve anything, as they simply waste more, if they have more.

There are 7 companies currently producing biodegradable plastics, mostly based on polylactic acid.

 

Correctly applied, taxes on non-biodegradable plastics should be used to clean up the mess they make. It's a matter of political will and absence of corruption to achieve that result.

 

Our current economic models are flawed, when have you seen one that takes account of environmental costs?

 

I have worked for a range of companies. They had one common factor - they all cheated when it came to their environmental licences.

[Airalee]

12 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

Ever done something good in your life ...?

Nothing that I would post online in order to seek approval from strangers.

[KhunLA]

29 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

Non bio-degradable plastic is too cheap . It needs to become expensive , and the problem disappears alone ...

There is nothing wrong with plastic.  It's how it's used (food industry), and how it's disposed of, landfill or sea.

 

Any plastic not recycled, should be burned for energy. Problem solved.

 

Taxes ... I would have no problem pay more, though prefer a flat tax (income), but the problem is, the govt (USA) wastes most taxes, mismanage their budget, and corruption rules.

 

So NO, I don't want to give them any tax money, and main reason I left the USA.  I literally live  here / TH, on what my monthly tax burden would be in the USA, approximately say $476 / ฿16.3k, (as calculated for 2024), from actual cost.

 

Pretty sure just my real estate taxes would be that amount.  If having one of the last houses I owned there.

 

Time for a 'System Change'. and should be how they spend our taxes collected.   That's the problem, not that they don't already have enough. 

[Yagoda]

10 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

You would not have helped him , I am sure ... well we did ... he was tortured by people .

 

Now he is happy and healthy with us .

 

Ever done something good in your life ...?

I think that depends on how you define good. The other day, I did not step on a roach. That was good. But I think Saint Peter would prefer that I devote my attention to humans.

 

 

[Yagoda]

10 hours ago, Airalee said:

Poor people won’t bow down, lick his feet and show him the adulation that he deserves.

Could be one of those luddites that believes humanity is a disease. I'm always suspicious of people who criticize humans yet love dogs.

[Airalee]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Could be one of those luddites that believes humanity is a disease. I'm always suspicious of people who criticize humans yet love dogs.

Agreed, but I must say that I don’t see shades of Hitler in what he wrote….more like Pol Pot.  I wonder who he would choose for his culling?  
 

Would he step up to be the first in line?  

 

Probably not, because he has “analyzed it and has the answer”.  If only all of us other useless eaters would just fall in line.  No sacrifices to be made on his part….well….except sell his luxury house and of course….no mention of donating the proceeds even though he already “has enough”.

 

I noticed that he also seemed to point fingers only at the upcoming administration.  Maybe if Trump appointed a more diverse and worthy group of henchmen like dear leader Kamala would have….because….joy!

 

But ne’er ye worry.  He has the answer and can pontificate and lord over the rest of us from his island paradise while stroking his army of loyal dogs.

[Yagoda]

45 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Agreed, but I must say that I don’t see shades of Hitler in what he wrote….more like Pol Pot.  I wonder who he would choose for his culling?  
 

Would he step up to be the first in line?  

 

Probably not, because he has “analyzed it and has the answer”.  If only all of us other useless eaters would just fall in line.  No sacrifices to be made on his part….well….except sell his luxury house and of course….no mention of donating the proceeds even though he already “has enough”.

 

I noticed that he also seemed to point fingers only at the upcoming administration.  Maybe if Trump appointed a more diverse and worthy group of henchmen like dear leader Kamala would have….because….joy!

 

But ne’er ye worry.  He has the answer and can pontificate and lord over the rest of us from his island paradise while stroking his army of loyal dogs.

Brilliant! Where were you when I was battling the Trumpophobics before the election LOL

[nobodysfriend]

1 hour ago, Airalee said:

 I wonder who he would choose for his culling?  

 

Guess who ?

 

https://www.learning-mind.com/quotes-about-stupid-people-stupidity/

 

 

 

 

 

[nobodysfriend]

And one more for Airalee and Yagoda ...

 

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[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, nobodysfriend said:

And one more for Airalee and Yagoda ...

 

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Wow thats deep. How intellectual you are, expressing your own idea with such descriptive use of language. 

 

Please, allow me to respond: You have already demonstrated your ideology here, viz: an elitist loathing of humanity that exists in a moral vacuum. Perhaps the Jellyfish is brainless, but it does not set itself above others and seek to destroy them for a false ideal.

 

Meme that.

[Rimmer]

Some off topic bickering posts and replies have been removed

[impulse]

1969 Socialist car  (10 year waiting list, BTW)

 

 

1969 Capitalist cars  (Off the showroom floor...)

 

 

Need I say more?

 

[Airalee]

6 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Brilliant! Where were you when I was battling the Trumpophobics before the election LOL

You know I’m a political agnostic…..and I was having an adventure at that particular time back in the US where I had to literally escape the clutches of wokedom, sometimes in the middle of the night.  Thankfully I escaped back to Thailand before the election….only to have to hastily depart for Da Nang where I’m wating out the 180 day Thai tax rule.  You should come on over….boy do I have some stories to tell!

 

Speaking of taxes (as the OP seems to be quite fond of them for others)…do you think he’ll pay them to Thailand for living here over the 180 day limit?  
 

I’m betting not….but surely, if he has 80k to spare feeding dogs, he must have enough to pay his fair share.  Or will he choose the “rules for thee but not for me” that I find so prevalent in the mindset of the filthy leftists that I have known throughout life?

[Yagoda]

41 minutes ago, Airalee said:

You know I’m a political agnostic…..and I was having an adventure at that particular time back in the US where I had to literally escape the clutches of wokedom, sometimes in the middle of the night.  Thankfully I escaped back to Thailand before the election….only to have to hastily depart for Da Nang where I’m wating out the 180 day Thai tax rule.  You should come on over….boy do I have some stories to tell!

 

Speaking of taxes (as the OP seems to be quite fond of them for others)…do you think he’ll pay them to Thailand for living here over the 180 day limit?  
 

I’m betting not….but surely, if he has 80k to spare feeding dogs, he must have enough to pay his fair share.  Or will he choose the “rules for thee but not for me” that I find so prevalent in the mindset of the filthy leftists that I have known throughout life?

Dont be an agnostic any more. Cant come to Vietnam, on my way to BKK LOL

[nobodysfriend]

3 hours ago, Airalee said:

You know I’m a political agnostic…..

 

For one time ,that seems true ...

" The word agnostic means "without knowledge," basically meaning that you believe you don't know enough to make an educated decision on what's true. "

[nobodysfriend]

5 hours ago, impulse said:

1969 Socialist car  (10 year waiting list, BTW)

 

 

1969 Capitalist cars  (Off the showroom floor...)

 

 

Need I say more?

 

 

What are you saying ?

[Airalee]

18 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

For one time ,that seems true ...

" The word agnostic means "without knowledge," basically meaning that you believe you don't know enough to make an educated decision on what's true. "

Exactly.  I don’t trust either side and can’t extract enough truth from the little information available so I don’t vote.  One thing that I do agree upon is that people (mostly) aren’t honest.  Both fundamentally and intellectually. 
 

My experience with leftists however, is that they want to dictate what I think, jab me with vaccines I don’t want/need, force their pronouns upon me etc etc so I can be certain to not join their team of degenerate mid-wits.  They are the ones who will turn on you and stab you in the back.

 

One is no longer allowed to be neutral and objective.

[uncletiger]

2 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

For one time ,that seems true ...

" The word agnostic means "without knowledge," basically meaning that you believe you don't know enough to make an educated decision on what's true. "

As the brilliant Mark Twain said:

 

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.

 

Only an imbecile would denigrate someone claiming they don't yet have enough information to make a choice. Because none of us know anything with certainty, except those few things that can be mathematically and physically proven. And even physics is open for re-evaluation if our most fundamental models of reality change.

 

Being agnostic implies the highest degree of true intelligence.

[nobodysfriend]

10 hours ago, uncletiger said:

As the brilliant Mark Twain said:

 

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.

 

Only an imbecile would denigrate someone claiming they don't yet have enough information to make a choice. Because none of us know anything with certainty, except those few things that can be mathematically and physically proven. And even physics is open for re-evaluation if our most fundamental models of reality change.

 

Being agnostic implies the highest degree of true intelligence.

 

I know that I know nothing ... but I am not sure about that ...

[Airalee]

On 12/18/2024 at 8:03 PM, uncletiger said:

As the brilliant Mark Twain said:

 

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.

 

Only an imbecile would denigrate someone claiming they don't yet have enough information to make a choice. Because none of us know anything with certainty, except those few things that can be mathematically and physically proven. And even physics is open for re-evaluation if our most fundamental models of reality change.

 

Being agnostic implies the highest degree of true intelligence.

This quote by the OP was comedy gold….