I have sugar problem

[Hummin]

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I tell the person cooking the food for me in a food court to leave out the sugar.

 

Sugar is used to balance the chili that is added to many Thai dishes. If the chili is reduced or eliminated, sugar is unnecessary.

And salt accordingly 

[jas007]

26 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

OK, Kiwi juice and Voddy! 555

If you eat the skin of the Kiwi fruit along with the rest of it, that gives you the most fiber.  Maybe a small blender would work. 

[candide]

Easy.

Avoid sugar and anything sweet  such as sodas etc...

Avoid fat, fried food, etc....

Avoid beer like hell.

Eat only very few fruits. Fructose is actually much worse than zaccharose.

Don't eat too much of other carbs: rice, pasta, bread  ....

 

Eat balanced meals: 50% vegetable, 25% proteins, 25% glucides (rice, bread ....). Of course, try not to eat too much, Avoid buffets..

 

There are plenty of good food options left, it's just usually more expensive than eating fried chicken or burgers with fries.

 

Of course, exercise every day.

[Andre0720]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

I tell the person cooking the food for me in a food court to leave out the sugar.

 

Sugar is used to balance the chili that is added to many Thai dishes. If the chili is reduced or eliminated, sugar is unnecessary.

By asking a cook to leave out the sugar, it will only get you a meal without refined sugar from the bowl that they all keep aside.

But then the customer will get the sugar that comes from that bowl of refined sugar, and that was previously added to the sauce prepared for meals.

If then if the meal does not require such a sauce, there are so many bottles of sauces that they all use, and that comes from Minimart Super Cheap, and that typically contain some 20% of added refined sugar.

If a cook says that there is no sugar in the meal, is that they do not know the content of the sauces that they use. Just about nobody reads what is in a bottle of sauce. And certainly not a Thai cooker... (I do not even use the word 'Thai cook').

[G_Money]

The Italian in me will not give up pasta, bread, certain pastries and gelato.

 

Total blasphemy.

 

 

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, Andre0720 said:

By asking a cook to leave out the sugar, it will only get you a meal without refined sugar from the bowl that they all keep aside.

But then the customer will get the sugar that comes from that bowl of refined sugar, and that was previously added to the sauce prepared for meals.

If then if the meal does not require such a sauce, there are so many bottles of sauces that they all use, and that comes from Minimart Super Cheap, and that typically contain some 20% of added refined sugar.

If a cook says that there is no sugar in the meal, is that they do not know the content of the sauces that they use. Just about nobody reads what is in a bottle of sauce. And certainly not a Thai cooker... (I do not even use the word 'Thai cook').

IMO the amount of sugar you would get in a sauce used in cooking would be minimal.

 

I believe if I don't measure it, I can't control it. I have regular blood tests, so far so good.

[Andre0720]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

IMO the amount of sugar you would get in a sauce used in cooking would be minimal.

 

I believe if I don't measure it, I can't control it. I have regular blood tests, so far so good.

You might very well be wrong.

A minimal amount of poison, is still poison, and more and more lethal as we age. Just the way it is.

I never used sugar in any of my cooking before I got here. And was just stunned when I found out about it.

No more Thai food, and no more signs of arthritic symptoms.

And I have been testing the effect of sugar on my body since then.

Fruit is fine.

Refined sugar is a trigger for some pains in the joints.

I feel better now that I went back to my regular cooking habits.

And my friend who joined me here with his GF, said the same thing. And I remember him saying; "I thought I was eating healthy here".

[Lacessit]

My blood test figures don't lie.

 

Fruit is glucose and fructose. Refined sugar is also glucose and fructose, in the form of sucrose.

 

Glucose is what is reported in blood tests. Fructose is processed by the liver.

 

Stick to strawberries, raspberries and blueberries if you want minimum sugar. Bananas, mangoes and lychees are loaded with sugars.

[Celsius]

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

My blood test figures don't lie.

 

Fruit is glucose and fructose. Refined sugar is also glucose and fructose, in the form of sucrose.

 

Glucose is what is reported in blood tests. Fructose is processed by the liver.

 

Stick to strawberries, raspberries and blueberries if you want minimum sugar. Bananas, mangoes and lychees are loaded with sugars.

 

I suspected the same.

 

What about grapes?

[G_Money]

FFS.  No bread, no pasta, no pastry, no beer. no coke mixers, no ice cream.

 

And now, no fruit.

 

And we’re all going to die regardless.

 

Enjoy life.

 

Get that warm blueberry pie ala mode before you can’t 

[ignis]

19 minutes ago, Celsius said:

 

I suspected the same.

 

What about grapes?

Google is your friend

 

Grapes, especially darkly colored fruits, have an abundance of antioxidant molecules that have the ability to regulate insulin and glucose metabolism and oxidative stress induced in this disease.

 

Strawberries are almost in season

[Lacessit]

26 minutes ago, Celsius said:

 

I suspected the same.

 

What about grapes?

Grapes are high in sugar. Raisins and sultanas are even worse.

[Lacessit]

10 minutes ago, ignis said:

Google is your friend

 

Grapes, especially darkly colored fruits, have an abundance of antioxidant molecules that have the ability to regulate insulin and glucose metabolism and oxidative stress induced in this disease.

 

Strawberries are almost in season

Blueberries are in the top echelon as far as antioxidants go.

 

Red and black grapes have about 15-20 grams of sugars per serving, so it's a mixed bag.

 

The link of antioxidants with regulating insulin and glucose is tenuous, studies are conflicting as to their effectiveness.

[Hummin]

39 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Blueberries are in the top echelon as far as antioxidants go.

 

Red and black grapes have about 15-20 grams of sugars per serving, so it's a mixed bag.

 

The link of antioxidants with regulating insulin and glucose is tenuous, studies are conflicting as to their effectiveness.

 

I prefer to find local fruits instead of import fruit, that do not even taste like blueberries. 

 

Tropical fruits of choice enjoy

 

Dragon Fruit

Bananas

The Orange

Pineapple

Rambutan and Lychee

Jackfruit or Durian

Papaya

Coconut

Mango

https://www.masteringdiabetes.org/tropical-fruits-lower-blood-sugar/

[ignis]

46 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Grapes are high in sugar. Raisins and sultanas are even worse.

 

Many years ago was told Fruit is good sugars by a Diabetic Dr

 

The natural sugars in fruit differ from the added sugar on/in food

 

[CallumWK]

11 minutes ago, ignis said:

 

Many years ago was told Fruit is good sugars by a Diabetic Dr

 

The natural sugars in fruit differ from the added sugar on/in food

 

 

By coincidence I was looking up fruits and Keto diet recently, and the results showed me that sweet fruits are to be avoided because of the sugars/carbs

[novacova]

29 minutes ago, ignis said:

 

Many years ago was told Fruit is good sugars by a Diabetic Dr

 

The natural sugars in fruit differ from the added sugar on/in food

 

Sugar is sugar, no matter the natural source. Of course fruit is part of a healthy diet and is a good source of minerals. The problem with sugar is when it’s heated melts and breaks down into glucose and fructose changing the molecules making it more difficult for the body to assimilate and causing health problems. The sugar in Tipco fruit juice is just as poisonous as table sugar. The raw sugar from cane is no different than sugar in a fresh mango, the only difference is the amount it contains per volume by weight. Not only fruit have sugar, many vegetables are high in sugar, so give that a thought next time you cook up some carrots or beets.

[KhunLA]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Stick to strawberries, raspberries and blueberries if you want minimum sugar. Bananas, mangoes and lychees are loaded with sugars.

 

[KhunLA]

37 minutes ago, novacova said:

Sugar is sugar, no matter the natural source. Of course fruit is part of a healthy diet and is a good source of minerals. The problem with sugar is when it’s heated melts and breaks down into glucose and fructose changing the molecules making it more difficult for the body to assimilate and causing health problems. The sugar in Tipco fruit juice is just as poisonous as table sugar. The raw sugar from cane is no different than sugar in a fresh mango, the only difference is the amount it contains per volume by weight. Not only fruit have sugar, many vegetables are high in sugar, so give that a thought next time you cook up some carrots or beets.

 

[save the frogs]

12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Obviously, I could stop eating ice-cream and cake. But what is life without them? 

 

You could learn to make healthy alternatives of your favorite desserts.

Plenty of recipes on youtube.

And there are sugar substitutes that are much healthier than processed sugar.

Only problem is you can't buy it, you will need to make it and source the ingredients, so it will take some work.

But how lazy can you be where you wouldn't want to put some effort in making healthy desserts and risk the health problems? 

Buy an ice cream machine and make your own. Don't use processed sugar or unhealthy craps they put in the store variety. 

 

[save the frogs]

12 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

 

 

I think there may be an over-obsession with monitoring blood sugar spikes.

I don't think blood sugar spikes are causing health problems.

I think crappy foods that also mostly happen to cause high blood sugar spikes are causing health problems.

I think healthy foods that cause blood sugar spikes are not causing health problems.

Like fruits, for example. 

 

[G_Money]

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

You could learn to make healthy alternatives of your favorite desserts.

Plenty of recipes on youtube.

And there are sugar substitutes that are much healthier than processed sugar.

Only problem is you can't buy it, you will need to make it and source the ingredients, so it will take some work.

But how lazy can you be where you wouldn't want to put some effort in making healthy desserts and risk the health problems? 

 

How many more years of life expectancy do you honestly think you will get from these Utube recipes?

 

[still kicking]

12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

When is it too late?

I have diabetes and I take the medicine.

And I like ice-cream and cake.

Obviously, I could stop eating ice-cream and cake. But what is life without them? 

I have Diabetes 2 as well I don't eat sweets or ice-cream don't drink soft drinks  

[KhunLA]

11 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

I think there may be an over-obsession with monitoring blood sugar spikes.

I don't think blood sugar spikes are causing health problems.

I think crappy foods that also mostly happen to cause high blood sugar spikes are causing health problems.

I think healthy foods that cause blood sugar spikes are not causing health problems.

Like fruits, for example. 

I disagree with that opinion.  

 

Sugar and starchy carbs are a major issue, and right behind trans fats & junk food.  Cut way back on both, and healthier (blood work #s) and feel much better.

[save the frogs]

14 minutes ago, still kicking said:

I have Diabetes 2 as well I don't eat sweets or ice-cream don't drink soft drinks  

I dont believe you

Also, pasta, white flour may cause issues, not just sweets

[tomazbodner]

@Celsius You can get blood glucose test at Watson's - AccuCheck with the test sheets, if you check in the morning and it's over 120/6.5 then you should go and visit a clinic for c-peptide and Hb1ac - to see if there is something to worry about or not, where c-peptide would also tell you amount of insulin your body produces, so you could tell, if you are prone, whether yours would be diabetes type 1, type 2 or both.

 

Contrary to public opinion, sugar consumption isn't related with type 1 nor type 2 diabetes. But once you have it, of course, especially with type 1, sugar and carbohydrates, especially simple ones, and starch can cause a major wreck in your system.

 

If you have high blood glucose, you should be feeling very thirsty. Thirsty all the time. That's usually the first symptom of blood glucose being out of control. Are you?

[CallumWK]

12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

When is it too late?

I have diabetes and I take the medicine.

And I like ice-cream and cake.

Obviously, I could stop eating ice-cream and cake. But what is life without them? 

 

Here we are. Food advises have become woke.

Is there any source that tells you how many years longer you will live if you avoid all foods you like and have eaten all your life?

BTW, if they said I will live 20 years longer, it would encourage me to eat even more of them. My mom died at 92, my dad at 96. Both were healthy until the last year, but I have seen what they went through the last 10 years of their life in the retirement home.

Thanks, but if that is my future, i will pull the plug myself

[still kicking]

9 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I dont believe you

Also, pasta, white flour may cause issues, not just sweets

Why don't you believe me? I just had a blood test done and my Diabetes is border line I do not eat a lot, just fruit in the morning no lunch and just a little dinner.

[OneMoreFarang]

27 minutes ago, still kicking said:

I have Diabetes 2 as well I don't eat sweets or ice-cream don't drink soft drinks  

And probably your behavior will help you to get older - without ice-cream and all that.

Now, will my ice-cream cost me a year? Or 5 years? Or more? That is the question.

Will I really think when I am 70 or 80 that I should have eaten less ice-cream? Maybe.

[still kicking]

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And probably your behavior will help you to get older - without ice-cream and all that.

Now, will my ice-cream cost me a year? Or 5 years? Or more? That is the question.

Will I really think when I am 70 or 80 that I should have eaten less ice-cream? Maybe.

I am 77 now