MAGA civil war as Elon Musk and Vivek clash with hard right on key immigration issue

[G_Money]

8 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Who said they were taking over the USIS?......Musk?......Is that where the clash arose?

Follow the topic.  Some are insinuating they are.

 

They must truly believe Trump is the current president.

 

Yes, he is a high achiever and negotiating different issues but he’s not the POTUS  until January 20th.

[Will B Good]

This is the only reference I can find to Musk in the article posted.....

 

White House AI and crypto czar David Sacks came to Krishnan's defense, arguing he simply wants to remove country caps.

'Right now, every country in the world gets allocated the same number of green cards, no matter how many qualified applicants it has. So applicants from India have an 11 year wait whereas applicants from many other countries have no wait at all,' he said.

'Supporting a limited number of highly skilled immigrants is still a prevalent view on the right. Sriram is definitely not a ''career leftist''.'

Elon Musk responded to Sacks' comments, agreeing they 'make sense.'

 

So Musk wants to limit the numbers and Vivek wants to let rip....in essence??

[G_Money]

25 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Separately...why are they sticking their oars into immigration and the granting of these visas......???

They can’t grant visas.

[GammaGlobulin]

22 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

It's not just these two. Other oligarchs like David Sacks and Peter Thiel are also campaigning for more Indian H1Bs. This is the payment they want for supporting Trump with donations and supporting statements.

 

Indians are NOT needed in the USA, now.

Too many of them.

Culture is garbage.

I want many more Chinese with PhDs.

Chinese are hard-workers.

Also, much more honest.

Remember that Indian who was guiding the scam and pulling the strings behind Elizabeth, on the blood analysis fiasco of a machine?

 

Better to give visas to Chinese.

 

 

[CallumWK]

16 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

He paroled them and processed them cash, phones, and work permits. 

 

And that is just the problem with the liberals, they parole illegal immigrants so they can vote, but the US doesn't need these unskilled people.

 

The Indian visas Musk is talking about are predominantly skilled tech people from India

[G_Money]

18 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Maybe they're overwhelmed and don't have the information on Indian diploma mills.

 

USCIS received a total of 780,884 (approximately 781K) H1B Registrations for the FY 2024 season.

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Total Eligible

Of the total 781K H1B registrations submitted, the total number of eligible registrations stood at 758,994 (approximately 757K). The difference of 21,890 (780,884 -758,994) between submitted vs. eligible registrations is accounted for the duplicate registrations, failed payments, and others deleted by employers before the close of the registration period.

And your point is?

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, G_Money said:

They can’t grant visas.

 

Exactly.....not their remit, so why are they commenting on it?....especially if these Indians are not destined to work in the government.

 

Administrations must have a coherent message......in the UK it is called Cabinet responsibility....sign up or resign.

[G_Money]

Just now, Will B Good said:

 

Exactly.....not their remit, so why are they commenting on it?....especially if these Indians are not destined to work in the government.

 

Administrations must have a coherent message......in the UK it is called Cabinet responsibility....sign up or resign.

It’s their opinions.  Just like yours and everyone else’s. 

 

You’re tink too mutt.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, G_Money said:

It’s their opinions.  Just like yours and everyone else’s. 

 

You’re tink too mutt.

 

Things will unravel quickly if you have powerful figures going rogue..........don't you think?

 

The administration has to remain on message.

[G_Money]

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Exactly.....not their remit, so why are they commenting on it?....especially if these Indians are not destined to work in the government.

 

Administrations must have a coherent message......in the UK it is called Cabinet responsibility....sign up or resign.

This is a USA issue.  Not the UK.

 

As a non USC, why are you so concerned over our H1B quotas?

 

 

[Will B Good]

Just now, G_Money said:

This is a USA issue.  Not the UK.

 

As a non USC, why are you so concerned over our H1B quotas?

 

 

 

Tetchy......why shouldn't I be interested when the alternative is what Bob said to someone in 7/11

[John Drake]

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Things will unravel quickly if you have powerful figures going rogue..........don't you think?

 

The administration has to remain on message.

 

The warning signs were there with the budget extension, where Elon and Vivek started crowing about how they used their influence to stop it. Trump looks like he is being dragged behind them on a leash.

[G_Money]

Just now, Will B Good said:

 

Things will unravel quickly if you have powerful figures going rogue..........don't you think?

 

The administration has to remain on message.

So voicing opinions is now going rogue.

 

Well I suppose the leftists need something new every day to complain about since Trump is outperforming Biden in every category.

 

And he hasn’t been sworn in yet.  How sweet it is!

[Will B Good]

Just now, John Drake said:

 

The warning signs were there with the budget extension, where Elon and Vivek started crowing about how they used their influence to stop it. Trump looks like he is being dragged behind them on a leash.

 

That is my impression.......you can only have one person calling the shots or all hell will break loose.

[GroveHillWanderer]

25 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Based on their qualification and education?

 

I think not.

 

Future Democrat voters and representation.

 

No other reason.

Because all immigrants are automatically Democrat supporters?  Just like Musk and Ramaswamy?

[G_Money]

1 minute ago, John Drake said:

 

The warning signs were there with the budget extension, where Elon and Vivek started crowing about how they used their influence to stop it. Trump looks like he is being dragged behind them on a leash.

After reading your posts and the others all I can say is lefties are still losing it.

 

What will tomorrow bring that will have you all losing it?

 

 

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, G_Money said:

So voicing opinions is now going rogue.

 

Well I suppose the leftists need something new every day to complain about since Trump is outperforming Biden in every category.

 

And he hasn’t been sworn in yet.  How sweet it is!

 

Oh my...wrong time of the month for you?

 

I was interested in how things like this were playing out in US politics......... as it is quite alien in UK politics to have public disagreements on major policies.

 

Feel free not to respond and give us both a break.

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Because all immigrants are automatically Democrat supporters?  Just like Musk and Ramaswamy?

 

 

Yes...I though that was a very odd comment.

[G_Money]

4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

That is my impression.......you can only have one person calling the shots or all hell will break loose.

As if that’s what happened under the Biden administration.

 

Was that your impression?

[John Drake]

2 minutes ago, G_Money said:

After reading your posts and the others all I can say is lefties are still losing it.

 

What will tomorrow bring that will have you all losing it?

 

 

 

I'm not left. I'm not right. I oppose H1bs. If you want to bring in exceptional people, fine. But H1Bs are not exceptional. They're ordinary wage slaves who suppress native wages while increasing the demand on housing prices for American citizens. And I think Trump is going 180 on immigration and China. He doesn't need MAGA anymore. He'll never need any voters support again. Now, he can just cozy up to the Kings of Cash, the Tech Oligarchs.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, G_Money said:

As if that’s what happened under the Biden administration.

 

Was that your impression?

 

Never followed Biden's administration particularly.........so you are saying he faced similar problems with senior figures going off script?

[G_Money]

6 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Because all immigrants are automatically Democrat supporters?  Just like Musk and Ramaswamy?

All ILLEGAL immigrants are.  Just like the ones Biden let in.  Especially the criminals.

 

The two you mentioned are LEGAL immigrants.  They happen to support Trump.  Their choice.

[Will B Good]

Just now, John Drake said:

He'll never need any voters support again

 

 

Now that is a frightening thought and one that ran through my mind.

 

The only hope is he wants to leave a glowing success and maybe a dynasty.....Baron? the other two are hopeless.

[G_Money]

7 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Oh my...wrong time of the month for you?

 

I was interested in how things like this were playing out in US politics......... as it is quite alien in UK politics to have public disagreements on major policies.

 

Feel free not to respond and give us both a break.

Why would I bail out?

 

You appear to be the one blowing a head gasket.

 

Feel free to bail out.  Good for your mental health.

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, G_Money said:

All ILLEGAL immigrants are.  Just like the ones Biden let in.  Especially the criminals.

 

The two you mentioned are LEGAL immigrants.  They happen to support Trump.  Their choice.

 

Musk?

 

Reports have raised questions about Elon Musk’s U.S. citizenship. An investigation by The Washington Post suggests that Musk  worked in the U.S. without proper authorization. Legal experts indicate that if Musk misrepresented information during his immigration process, he could face denaturalization and potential criminal charges.

 

Oh dear!!

[G_Money]

4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Never followed Biden's administration particularly.........so you are saying he faced similar problems with senior figures going off script?

You previous history of posting dictates other wise.

 

Not enough UK threads anymore?  

[G_Money]

20 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

The warning signs were there with the budget extension, where Elon and Vivek started crowing about how they used their influence to stop it. Trump looks like he is being dragged behind them on a leash.

Your opinion has nothing to do with facts.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, G_Money said:

You previous history of posting dictates other wise.

 

Not enough UK threads anymore?  

 

No.

 

Some rubbish about Farage being the UK's saviour as he is a bum-chum of Trump, but that's about it.

 

Rather ironic as his singlehandedly destroyed our relationship with the EU, which is estimated to have cost 27 billion a year in trade.....but what the hell....we have blue passports now and get to stand in long queues every time we cross the channel.

[SunnyinBangrak]

24 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Because all immigrants are automatically Democrat supporters?  Just like Musk and Ramaswamy?

You missed one word that completely fixes your intentionally erroneous statement. ILLEGAL

 

lets try that again. Because all illegal immigrants are automatically Democrat supporters?  correct. Illegals want no laws that could semd thrm home, and as much free stuff as pos. Hence they love democrats.

Just like Musk and Ramaswamy? No. They are LEGAL

[Will B Good]

Just now, SunnyinBangrak said:

You missed one word that completely fixes your intentionally erroneous statement. ILLEGAL

 

lets try that again. Because all illegsl immigrants are automatically Democrat supporters?  correct

Just like Musk and Ramaswamy? No. They are LEGAL

all illegsl immigrants

 

Is that a third category?

 

...and....

 

 

Reports have raised questions about Elon Musk’s U.S. citizenship. An investigation by The Washington Post suggests that Musk  worked in the U.S. without proper authorization. Legal experts indicate that if Musk misrepresented information during his immigration process, he could face denaturalization and potential criminal charges.