Yes, Virginia, Donald J. Trump WILL be the first convicted felon to become U.S. president

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2 hours ago, G_Money said:

You have nothing.

 

What’s next.  Joe Biden wasn’t the Big Guy?

First of all, 10% of what? Something illegal? What was that illegal act? And it was posted when Joe Biden was not in office  But since we know that Hunter Biden repeatedly invoked his father's name as a scam, what's your point. There was also this:

 A former business partner of Hunter’s named Tony Bobulinski came forward to claim “the big guy” was Joe Biden. But a subsequent email from Hunter says his “Chairman” gave him “an emphatic no,” and a further email clarifies that the chairman is his dad.

https://www.vox.com/22992772/hunter-biden-laptop

[newnative]

34 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You don't understand the electoral collage system vs outright vote counts, and how that affects campaigning? Its ok many biden bros here dont either

    I understand the EC just fine, more's the pity.  Basically, you had roughly half of the voters wanting Trump, roughly half of the voters wanting Harris.  That's the reality.  Neither reached 50% of the vote.  The EC vote can give a very false impression.  A candidate can win every state by 1 vote and have a huge EC win, but the popular vote was razor thin.  Was he or she overwhelmingly favored by the voters?  No.   

[SunnyinBangrak]

Just now, newnative said:

    I understand the EC just fine, more's the pity.  Basically, you had roughly half of the voters wanting Trump, roughly half of the voters wanting Harris.  That's the reality.  Neither reached 50% of the vote.  The EC vote can give a very false impression.  A candidate can win every state by 1 vote and have a huge EC win, but the popular vote was razor thin.  Was he or she overwhelmingly favored by the voters?  No.   

You neglected to point out you had the entire msm apart from fox and nypost as well as the entire democrat party stressing that Trump was literally Hitler and would end democracy. Plus the silly lawfare constantly being referred to as if it was genuine. And in spite of this overwhelming and relentless propaganda Trump still turned the entire map minus a few coastal elite connurbations red. It was an annhialation. A total landslide. 

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53 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You neglected to point out you had the entire msm apart from fox and nypost as well as the entire democrat party stressing that Trump was literally Hitler and would end democracy. Plus the silly lawfare constantly being referred to as if it was genuine. And in spite of this overwhelming and relentless propaganda Trump still turned the entire map minus a few coastal elite connurbations red. It was an annhialation. A total landslide. 

How many times does it have to be pointed out that Trump didn't quite manage to get 50% of the popular vote? You set a very low bar for a landslide.

[Dan O]

3 hours ago, jas007 said:

 If you don't understand all of what I've written above and it makes you comfortable to believe the official propaganda, that's OK with me. It really is.  You're in good company.  Many people are brainwashed and just don't realize it.  

 

Where is it written that I owe you any kind of explanation?  I could write 20 pages, but I would be wasting my time.  

If you cant show any proof then its an opinion. A commonly referenced one by many that have conspiracy complex syndrome. Thats on you. 

 

Dont both replying because you have nothing  worth reading and are just gaslighting the issues you raised and deflecting now because you have no proof. 

[G_Money]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

First of all, 10% of what? Something illegal? What was that illegal act? And it was posted when Joe Biden was not in office  But since we know that Hunter Biden repeatedly invoked his father's name as a scam, what's your point. There was also this:

 A former business partner of Hunter’s named Tony Bobulinski came forward to claim “the big guy” was Joe Biden. But a subsequent email from Hunter says his “Chairman” gave him “an emphatic no,” and a further email clarifies that the chairman is his dad.

https://www.vox.com/22992772/hunter-biden-laptop

Apparently you fell for it.

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12 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Apparently you fell for it.

In other words, you've got nothing to rebut the evidence I've offered. Nothing.

[newnative]

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You neglected to point out you had the entire msm apart from fox and nypost as well as the entire democrat party stressing that Trump was literally Hitler and would end democracy. Plus the silly lawfare constantly being referred to as if it was genuine. And in spite of this overwhelming and relentless propaganda Trump still turned the entire map minus a few coastal elite connurbations red. It was an annhialation. A total landslide. 

49.9 vs. 48.3.  

[CallumWK]

1 minute ago, newnative said:

49.9 vs. 48.3.  

 

He won the POPULAR vote in 34 of 50 states

[SunnyinBangrak]

1 minute ago, newnative said:

49.9 vs. 48.3.  

 

[gamb00ler]

7 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

He won the POPULAR vote in 34 of 50 states

In you own best interest you should learn more about statistics and simple mathematics before posting on the topic.  But, if on the other hand you don't mind being the butt of posts pointing out your obvious weakness.... then carry on as you were.

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19 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

 

If gophers were allowed to vote and voted the way their states did, it would have been a popular vote landslide for Trump.

[CallumWK]

10 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

In you own best interest you should learn more about statistics and simple mathematics before posting on the topic.  But, if on the other hand you don't mind being the butt of posts pointing out your obvious weakness.... then carry on as you were.

 

This has nothing to do with mathematics.

I posted that he won the popular vote in 34 out of 50 states, but you as a sore lefty loser have problem with that fact?

[newnative]

45 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

 

     Thank you.  Exactly the point I was making.  You look at the map and if you didn't know and had to guess you'd think Trump won maybe 80% of the vote to Harris's 20%.   Look at all that red!  My gosh!  The reality is 49.9% vs. 48.3%.   The reality is roughly half of the actual voters preferred Trump and roughly half of the actual voters preferred Harris.  But that reality is not reflected with either your map or the EC.  As I said in a previous post, the map could be entirely red--or blue--and the winner could have won by just 51 votes.

[newnative]

58 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

He won the POPULAR vote in 34 of 50 states

Yes, but still couldn't reach 50% of the POPULAR vote.  Still just 49.9% vs. 48.3 no matter how you try to slice it.   Still roughly half wanting Trump, half Harris.  

[mogandave]

5 minutes ago, newnative said:

     Thank you.  Exactly the point I was making.  You look at the map and if you didn't know and had to guess you'd think Trump won maybe 80% of the vote to Harris's 20%.   Look at all that red!  My gosh!  The reality is 49.9% vs. 48.3%.   The reality is roughly half of the actual voters preferred Trump and roughly half of the actual voters preferred Harris.  But that reality is not reflected with either your map or the EC.  As I said in a previous post, the map could be entirely red--or blue--and the winner could have won by just 51 votes.

Trump won, yes? 

 

 

[jimmybcool]

10 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Actually, what posters here are trying to imply is that he was successfully impeached twice and convicted.  He was not.  Their implications do not change the fact that he was acquitted twice.   The impeachment proceedings were nothing more than unjustified and unsuccessful accusations. 

 

My statement is 100% correct.  Being impeached means he was tried.  The outcome is irrelevant.  Impeachment is the act of having the hearings.  Totally separate from outcome.  And so far in the recent impeachments they have had correct outcomes IMO.

 

Trump was being politically harassed and merited acquittal.  Similar to some of his legal charges only they are held in far left enclaves with leftist judges and DAs so he isn't always acquitted. 

 

Clinton was found guilty.  Yeah I know a lot of people didn't catch that.  He committed perjury and was caught.  And the punishment was appropriate for his crime.  What he did was stupid and illegal but he was a second term popular president and it was a personal issue unrelated to his duties so removal from office would have been over the top punishment.  Since he wasn't removed lots of people think he was also acquitted.  Wrong. 

[newnative]

3 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Trump won, yes? 

 

 

Sure, 49.9 vs. 48.3.   Neither got 50%.  Both were liked, or disliked, about equally.

[mogandave]

1 minute ago, newnative said:

Sure, 49.9 vs. 48.3.   Neither got 50%.  Both were liked, or disliked, about equally.

Trump got more than Harris, yes? 

 

 

[newnative]

23 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Trump got more than Harris, yes? 

 

 

Likes or dislikes?

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48 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

 

My statement is 100% correct.  Being impeached means he was tried.  The outcome is irrelevant.  Impeachment is the act of having the hearings.  Totally separate from outcome.  And so far in the recent impeachments they have had correct outcomes IMO.

 

Trump was being politically harassed and merited acquittal.  Similar to some of his legal charges only they are held in far left enclaves with leftist judges and DAs so he isn't always acquitted. 

 

Clinton was found guilty.  Yeah I know a lot of people didn't catch that.  He committed perjury and was caught.  And the punishment was appropriate for his crime.  What he did was stupid and illegal but he was a second term popular president and it was a personal issue unrelated to his duties so removal from office would have been over the top punishment.  Since he wasn't removed lots of people think he was also acquitted.  Wrong. 

In what criminal court proceeding was Bill Clinton found to be guilty of perjury? Nor did the Senate  vote tdidn't result in him being removed from office. 

[Hawaiian]

7 hours ago, RPCVguy said:

There was a court ruling atop the initial votes of the House and Senate:
A majority of the Colorado Supreme court held that:  "Trump is disqualified from holding the office of president under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment,”
Trump engaged in insurrection, court says: "The top Colorado court upheld the trial judge’s conclusions that the January 6 assault on the US Capitol was an insurrection and that Trump “engaged in” that insurrection. These are key legal hurdles that the challengers needed to clear before Trump could be removed from any ballot, largely because the text of the 14th Amendment doesn’t actually define an “insurrection” or spell out what it means to “engage in” insurrection."  https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/colorado-trump-14th-amendment-12-19-23/index.html
Then back to my original post, this was not the only adjudication. The House and Senate each voted by a majority vote to the same offenses. The federal case was successfully stalled from going to trial, but the evidence gathered exceeded what the House Select Committee had the ability to gather.

Quoting the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution

Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

The disqualification is real, I've underlined the key words (no mention of conviction) and Americans saw Trump's past and ongoing "support for, comfort to" while putting the remedy Congress can supply in bold print.
Congress is likely to duck their responsibility. My point is that until this is resolved, the ceremony planned for January 20th will be in violation of the law. I don't expect anyone to enforce it. ... A sad day for the rule of law.

On March 4,2024, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Colorado cannot ban Trump from the presidential ballot.  While specifically naming Colorado it applies to all states.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68280062

[jimmybcool]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

In what criminal court proceeding was Bill Clinton found to be guilty of perjury? Nor did the Senate  vote tdidn't result in him being removed from office. 

 

Reading comprehension is a good skill.  Learn it.  No where did I say he was found guilty in a court of law nor that he was removed from office.  In fact I said the opposite. 

[Hawaiian]

9 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

 

Reading comprehension is a good skill.  Learn it.  No where did I say he was found guilty in a court of law nor that he was removed from office.  In fact I said the opposite. 

You wrote "Clinton was found guilty"......."He committed perjury and was caught."

[jimmybcool]

1 hour ago, Hawaiian said:

You wrote "Clinton was found guilty"......."He committed perjury and was caught."

Yes - by the impeachment committee. 

[Hawaiian]

14 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

Yes - by the impeachment committee. 

It's quite obvious you are TOTALLY confused and have no idea what you are talking about. 

[Captain Flack]

Off topic baiting post removed

[thaibeachlovers]

On 1/5/2025 at 10:38 PM, Golden Triangle said:

Trump is probably the biggest dork ever to unfortunately hold the title of president of the US of A. Americans should hang their heads in shame.

 

It because of opinions like that that Trump became popular enough to win, IMO. Soooo you helped him win

[rasg]

On 1/4/2025 at 5:42 AM, Jingthing said:

Under an odd quirk of New York state law, a person found guilty of a felony or many felonies as in the case of the president elect, can't technically be an actual CONVICTED felon until sentencing.

Many have assumed he had dodge that bullet.
He has not.

The sentencing is scheduled for January 10.

His inauguration is January 20.

Ipso facto -- convicted felon president.

So he can add that to his honors such as first president ever impeached TWICE.

 

You forgot to mention that not only were the two impeachments trumped up to get rid of him, he was convicted by neither of them.

You know the so-called felonies that were not actually felonies will be thrown out on appeal and Judge Merchan will at least have ended his own legal career at the minimum.

[jimmybcool]

3 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

It's quite obvious you are TOTALLY confused and have no idea what you are talking about. 

 

Not really.  You seem to confuse what it means to be impeached.  But hey the internet is replete with people who don't understand things.