Evidence of Covid19 vaccine shedding

[Red Phoenix]

39 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

Well, they don't. Vulnerable people get sick over and over perhaps but unvaccinated people probably get Covid at higher rates. I say probably because they're less likely to test themselves or seek medical care for milder cases, so it's hard to know the statistics for sure.

When you are unvaccinated getting one of the current Covid-19 infections is actually a blessing, as it will trigger your innate immune system to create antibodies and it will protect you from any more nasty variation of Covid-19. 

But talking people into screwing up their precious immune system by taking these harmful, ineffective and totally unnecessary gen-therapy mRNA injections, is the Crime of the Century as that's a recipe for creating all kinds of short, middle and long term adverse effects.  It's a double win for the Vax-manufacturers, as they first make billions $ on poisoning the public with these shots, and then have ensured themselves an even more profitable avenue by 'treating' the victims they made.  Pfizer invested many of the billions they made, by buying several companies that are developing cancer-cures, as they know full well that the current vax-induced cancer-explosion will be very lucrative for them.

[Denim]

Slightly off topic , but  interesting.

 

Dozens of British women have seen their breasts grow after the Covid jab - experts reveal why

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14263459/women-covid-jab-breast-enlargement-reaction.html

 

Dozens of British women have reported their breasts ballooning in size after receiving a Covid vaccine, MailOnline can reveal.

The revelation comes days after shocking images showed how a 19-year-old Canadian woman's breast quadrupled in size in what experts believe is a rare reaction to Pfizer's Covid jab dubbed the 'Pfizer boob job'.

Now, MailOnline has uncovered data from the British drug medical safety watchdog showing 33 reports of similar cases of 'breast enlargement' following Pfizer's vaccine. 

[impulse]

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Well they are wrong.

They simply do not know what they are talking about.

 

They're confusing "died with Covid" and "died of Covid"

 

I'd like to think it's an honest error.  But the financial incentives were huge.

 

[Airalee]

2 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

The CDC always errs on the side of caution. They would rather everyone have the same message rather than risk misinterpretations. Paul Offit discusses this. He was on the advisory committee when the bivalent vaccine was introduced and he was against recommending it because the data showed it didn't offer much more protection than the Omicron booster and so was unnecessary. The CDC went ahead and recommended it anyway, presumably because they didn't want people to start thinking boosters weren't necessary anymore.

 

It's the same with vaccinating children. Children generally don't get seriously ill or die so it can certainly be argued they don't need the vaccine. But a couple of thousand children have died from Covid and thousands more have been hospitalized. So the CDC figures why risk your child's life, no matter how small the odds. You can agree or disagree with that depending on your point of view.

 

But there has been ample evidence that people who got the original two shots and, perhaps, a booster, are sufficiently protected against serious illness assuming they are in good health and don't have any immune problems.

 

I had two Astra Zeneca shots and that was it. But I never get ill so I wasn't worried. I did catch something last year that might have been Covid, though the PCR test was negative. It was mild and lasted about five days. I didn't even have to stay in bed.

Children like this?

 

 

[impulse]

1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

 

Don't recall any of that? ........Found this......

 

• Later studies and reports, including documents submitted to regulatory agencies, indicated that lipid nanoparticles and spike protein could travel beyond the injection site in some cases. For example:

• Biodistribution studies in animals (presumably they mean non-humans???) showed that small amounts of lipid nanoparticles could be detected in other tissues, such as the liver, spleen, and other organs.

 

Of course you don't recall any of that.  The MSM (and moderators) were squelching anything that stood in the way of getting the "safe and effective" into everyone.

[Will B Good]

56 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Of course you don't recall any of that.  The MSM (and moderators) were squelching anything that stood in the way of getting the "safe and effective" into everyone.

I'm confused......

 

 

1. The New York Times:

The New York Times reported on the mRNA vaccine’s distribution and its breakdown in the body. They highlighted findings from clinical trials and studies that showed the mRNA was not confined to the injection site, but was quickly processed by the body, especially by immune cells. They also reported on how the vaccine’s lipid nanoparticles could reach different organs and how the mRNA’s role was to instruct cells to make the spike protein needed for immune response.

2. BBC News:

The BBC covered studies about how mRNA vaccines function and discussed their distribution in the body. They also reported on how regulatory bodies, such as the UK’s Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), had reviewed the available data, which included understanding the spread of mRNA and its quick breakdown. Their coverage often included insights from health experts and scientists explaining the safety of the vaccines.

3. CNN:

CNN reported on the distribution of mRNA after vaccination, referencing the findings of various studies that tracked how the mRNA was distributed throughout the body. These reports were often featured in the context of explaining vaccine safety, addressing public concerns, and reassuring the public that mRNA was safely degraded in the body after its job was done.

4. The Guardian:

The Guardian also covered scientific studies that demonstrated the rapid breakdown of mRNA after it entered the bloodstream. Their reports often featured interviews with scientists who emphasized the vaccine’s safety profile and the fact that mRNA didn’t stay in the body for an extended period.

5. Reuters and Associated Press (AP):

As part of their science reporting, Reuters and AP included updates based on data and scientific findings regarding the mRNA vaccines, including details about the mRNA’s movement beyond the injection site. These outlets often covered the safety and efficacy of the vaccines as public concerns arose.

6. National Geographic:

National Geographic did an in-depth exploration of how mRNA vaccines work, focusing on the technology behind them and the distribution of the mRNA in the body. They explained how the mRNA is used to teach the immune system to recognize the virus, and how it does not stay in the body for long, dispelling fears about its permanence.

 

In addition to these outlets, many science and health-focused publications (like Nature and Science) have published articles discussing these findings, which were often then referenced by mainstream media.

 

These reports helped educate the public about the way mRNA works in the body, often accompanied by expert opinions to reinforce that the mRNA does not persist in the body in harmful ways. This was important in addressing early concerns about the safety of the vaccines and to clarify the science behind their mechanism.

[Red Phoenix]

18 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

I'm confused......

 

 

1. The New York Times:

The New York Times reported on the mRNA vaccine’s distribution and its breakdown in the body. They highlighted findings from clinical trials and studies that showed the mRNA was not confined to the injection site, but was quickly processed by the body, especially by immune cells. They also reported on how the vaccine’s lipid nanoparticles could reach different organs and how the mRNA’s role was to instruct cells to make the spike protein needed for immune response.

2. BBC News:

The BBC covered studies about how mRNA vaccines function and discussed their distribution in the body. They also reported on how regulatory bodies, such as the UK’s Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), had reviewed the available data, which included understanding the spread of mRNA and its quick breakdown. Their coverage often included insights from health experts and scientists explaining the safety of the vaccines.

3. CNN:

CNN reported on the distribution of mRNA after vaccination, referencing the findings of various studies that tracked how the mRNA was distributed throughout the body. These reports were often featured in the context of explaining vaccine safety, addressing public concerns, and reassuring the public that mRNA was safely degraded in the body after its job was done.

4. The Guardian:

The Guardian also covered scientific studies that demonstrated the rapid breakdown of mRNA after it entered the bloodstream. Their reports often featured interviews with scientists who emphasized the vaccine’s safety profile and the fact that mRNA didn’t stay in the body for an extended period.

5. Reuters and Associated Press (AP):

As part of their science reporting, Reuters and AP included updates based on data and scientific findings regarding the mRNA vaccines, including details about the mRNA’s movement beyond the injection site. These outlets often covered the safety and efficacy of the vaccines as public concerns arose.

6. National Geographic:

National Geographic did an in-depth exploration of how mRNA vaccines work, focusing on the technology behind them and the distribution of the mRNA in the body. They explained how the mRNA is used to teach the immune system to recognize the virus, and how it does not stay in the body for long, dispelling fears about its permanence.

 

In addition to these outlets, many science and health-focused publications (like Nature and Science) have published articles discussing these findings, which were often then referenced by mainstream media.

 

These reports helped educate the public about the way mRNA works in the body, often accompanied by expert opinions to reinforce that the mRNA does not persist in the body in harmful ways. This was important in addressing early concerns about the safety of the vaccines and to clarify the science behind their mechanism.

 

Yes, without any evidence that the mRNA does not persist in the body, ALL of these publications towed the line that the public should not be worried about such 'details' as that would only fuel vaccine uptake hesitancy. 

But it was known from the very start that there was no 'OFF'-ramp for the instruction to your cells to produce the toxic spike-protein.  And of course now it comes out that the fear-mongering anti-vax scientists and researchers that were warning about this, were right all the time.  Articles and studies now indicate that they keep on finding it up to 800 days after last jab ('only' 800 days at the time of conducting the study, because the mRNA jabbed have been turned into 'walking spike-protein factories').

 

[impulse]

2 hours ago, Denim said:

Slightly off topic , but  interesting.

 

Dozens of British women have seen their breasts grow after the Covid jab - experts reveal why

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14263459/women-covid-jab-breast-enlargement-reaction.html

 

Dozens of British women have reported their breasts ballooning in size after receiving a Covid vaccine, MailOnline can reveal.

The revelation comes days after shocking images showed how a 19-year-old Canadian woman's breast quadrupled in size in what experts believe is a rare reaction to Pfizer's Covid jab dubbed the 'Pfizer boob job'.

Now, MailOnline has uncovered data from the British drug medical safety watchdog showing 33 reports of similar cases of 'breast enlargement' following Pfizer's vaccine. 

 

That one is really making the rounds in the wingnut conspiracy websites.  Or should I say the spoiler alert websites?

 

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Yes, without any evidence that the mRNA does not persist in the body, ALL of these publications towed the line that the public should not be worried about such 'details' as that would only fuel vaccine uptake hesitancy. 

But it was known from the very start that there was no 'OFF'-ramp for the instruction to your cells to produce the toxic spike-protein.  And of course now it comes out that the fear-mongering anti-vax scientists and researchers that were warning about this, were right all the time.  Articles and studies now indicate that they keep on finding it up to 800 days after last jab ('only' 800 days at the time of conducting the study, because the mRNA jabbed have been turned into 'walking spike-protein factories').

 

 

 

I thought the issue was that these findings were never reported at all by the msm?

[Will B Good]

2 hours ago, Denim said:

Slightly off topic , but  interesting.

 

Dozens of British women have seen their breasts grow after the Covid jab - experts reveal why

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14263459/women-covid-jab-breast-enlargement-reaction.html

 

Dozens of British women have reported their breasts ballooning in size after receiving a Covid vaccine, MailOnline can reveal.

The revelation comes days after shocking images showed how a 19-year-old Canadian woman's breast quadrupled in size in what experts believe is a rare reaction to Pfizer's Covid jab dubbed the 'Pfizer boob job'.

Now, MailOnline has uncovered data from the British drug medical safety watchdog showing 33 reports of similar cases of 'breast enlargement' following Pfizer's vaccine. 

 

 

Dozens.....555.....don't tell me.....they all then found out they were pregnant....

[cdemundo]

3 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Wow, 3 lies in 1 sentence, that must be a record!

The mRNA itself degrades quickly after being used by the body (#1), and it never integrates into a person’s DNA (#2) or replicates like a live virus would so shedding is impossible (#3).

 

 

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Huh.

[Red Phoenix]

9 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

So you are asserting that these are lies and expect to be believed and trusted simply on your say so.

 

Don't you have to say it 3 times for it to be true?

Nope, you just need some reading skills.

The current thread 'Evidence of Covid vaccine shedding', featured in its opening post a link to James Roguski's Resource Center that contains dozens of links to studies/articles providing such evidence.

> https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/evidence-of-shedding

And that Resource Center consists currently of 18 very comprehensive Chapters covering all the issues with the Covid-19 poison jabs. 

https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p

Here a link to the chapter addressing Evidence of DNA contamination

https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/evidence-of-dna-contamination

 

Might come as a shock that you have been lied to from the very beginning and that all the 'settled science' was a giant smoke-screen that is now falling apart as the real-life harm of this Crime of the Century is gradually being unveiled. 

Just ask yourself the question 'Would you still trust Anthony 'I Am Science' Fauci ' or the continually back-pedalling CDC ?  

 

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, Airalee said:

Children like this?

 

 

Oh come on. That kid in the photo is a poster child for obesity. Healthy my @rse.

[Will B Good]

10 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Oh come on. That kid in the photo is a poster child for obesity. Healthy my @rse.

Maybe the photo was taken after the vaccine injection......before that he was only 9st. 

[cdemundo]

25 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Nope, you just need some reading skills.

The current thread 'Evidence of Covid vaccine shedding', featured in its opening post a link to James Roguski's Resource Center that contains dozens of links to studies/articles providing such evidence.

> https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/evidence-of-shedding

And that Resource Center consists currently of 18 very comprehensive Chapters covering all the issues with the Covid-19 poison jabs. 

https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p

Here a link to the chapter addressing Evidence of DNA contamination

https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/evidence-of-dna-contamination

 

Might come as a shock that you have been lied to from the very beginning and that all the 'settled science' was a giant smoke-screen that is now falling apart as the real-life harm of this Crime of the Century is gradually being unveiled. 

Just ask yourself the question 'Would you still trust Anthony 'I Am Science' Fauci ' or the continually back-pedalling CDC ?  

 

Your only source appears to be James Roguski:

James Roguski is a researcher, author, natural health proponent and an activist.

Me too, I am a researcher, author, health proponent and activist.

Just like him, because I say so.

 

He is a self-published author, Lulu Enterprises and Substack both self-publishing, for-profit entities.

I looked at the links, they are a random assortment of articles related to your claims but none are asserting what you assert.

 

There are unanswered questions about mRNA vaccine after effects, that much is true.

But when you use hysterical language like "Crime of the Century" and "Covid-19 poison jabs" you undermine your own believability.

 

Like all true believers nothing is gonna shake your conviction.

 

 

 

[Lacessit]

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Maybe the photo was taken after the vaccine injection......before that he was only 9st. 

So the vaccine made his appetite too healthy?

 

Help me here, I'm losing count of the side-effects people are claiming.

 

I've seen pregnancy mentioned, does mRNA make people randy?

[Will B Good]

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

So the vaccine made his appetite too healthy?

 

Help me here, I'm losing count of the side-effects people are claiming.

 

I've seen pregnancy mentioned, does mRNA make people randy?

 

Didn't with the b****y wife.

[Lacessit]

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Didn't with the b****y wife.

Got it, mRNA makes women more b!tchy.

 

IME that doesn't stop them from getting pregnant.

[Airalee]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

So the vaccine made his appetite too healthy?

 

Help me here, I'm losing count of the side-effects people are claiming.

 

I've seen pregnancy mentioned, does mRNA make people randy?

No….the vaccine didn’t make his appetite unhealthy.

 

he died from Covid because he was already a fat f***….but the media still held him out as healthy.  Not a single person who has prattled on about their relatives or friends who have died ever offered up a picture of them when I ask to see how healthy they looked….and I’m not just talking about online here where of course people want to be anonymous…but in real life too.
 

I don’t drink….but I can’t even count how many fat alcoholics screamed at me to get jabbed during covid both online here and in real life.  And their diets weren’t any healthier than their hedonistic lifestyles.   So…F them and their dead friends and relatives.

[Red Phoenix]

2 hours ago, cdemundo said:

Your only source appears to be James Roguski:

...

 

Wrong again, I have multiple sources containing testimonies, articles and studies on Covid vaccine shedding. 

But I mentioned James Roguski's Resource Center, as on his website he has a comprehensive overview with summaries and links of several articles/studies on the subject.

[Rimmer]

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[Lacessit]

12 minutes ago, Airalee said:

No….the vaccine didn’t make his appetite unhealthy.

 

he died from Covid because he was already a fat f***….but the media still held him out as healthy.  Not a single person who has prattled on about their relatives or friends who have died ever offered up a picture of them when I ask to see how healthy they looked….and I’m not just talking about online here where of course people want to be anonymous…but in real life too.
 

I don’t drink….but I can’t even count how many fat alcoholics screamed at me to get jabbed during covid both online here and in real life.  And their diets weren’t any healthier than their hedonistic lifestyles.   So…F them and their dead friends and relatives.

I was being sarcastic in the first sentence.

 

I would agree if one doesn't want to be vaccinated, they had better be fit with a normal BMI.

 

A physio told me in my age group, I would be in the top 10% for fitness and mobility. Normal BMI.

 

Having said that, I am in the most vulnerable cohort for COVID. It is simple common sense to get vaccinated.

 

I have had two bouts of COVID. Both lasted no more than three days.

[Airalee]

32 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I was being sarcastic in the first sentence.

 

I would agree if one doesn't want to be vaccinated, they had better be fit with a normal BMI.

 

A physio told me in my age group, I would be in the top 10% for fitness and mobility. Normal BMI.

 

Having said that, I am in the most vulnerable cohort for COVID. It is simple common sense to get vaccinated.

 

I have had two bouts of COVID. Both lasted no more than three days.

And there in lies the rub.  It didn’t matter that I was young and healthy and had doctors tell me not to get vaccinated.  I would be told by so many people that I had to get vaccinated and that if any doctor advised against it, that I needed to find a new doctor.

 

Too many lies were told that flew in the face of science.  Unvaccinated people are driving the mutations?  Nonsense.  A virus wouldn’t need to mutate in order to infect an unvaccinated person.  It’s not entirely different from antibiotics creating bacterial resistance.  I have had this conversation with many doctors…when the virus hits a wall (vaccines)…that is what will drive the mutation.

 

I never had Covid…and like you…I got tested for antibodies also.

 

But too many people decided to shun me (after their ill educated denigrations)…and that is why, as you say, I now have the “empathy of a scorpion” 

[Lacessit]

21 minutes ago, Airalee said:

And there in lies the rub.  It didn’t matter that I was young and healthy and had doctors tell me not to get vaccinated.  I would be told by so many people that I had to get vaccinated and that if any doctor advised against it, that I needed to find a new doctor.

 

Too many lies were told that flew in the face of science.  Unvaccinated people are driving the mutations?  Nonsense.  A virus wouldn’t need to mutate in order to infect an unvaccinated person.  It’s not entirely different from antibiotics creating bacterial resistance.  I have had this conversation with many doctors…when the virus hits a wall (vaccines)…that is what will drive the mutation.

 

I never had Covid…and like you…I got tested for antibodies also.

 

But too many people decided to shun me (after their ill educated denigrations)…and that is why, as you say, I now have the “empathy of a scorpion” 

I don't think I have distanced myself from anyone who is not vaccinated; how would I know their status anyway, unless they told me?

 

I have a friend who is a rabid anti-vaxxer. We just don't go there in conversation, because we both know it leads nowhere.

 

Ironically, when we had COVID almost concurrently, I was mildly ill for 3 days. Pre-COVID, he would walk 15 km a day. Afterwards, for a month or so he could barely walk to his front gate.

 

 

[KhunHeineken]

8 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

The mRNA itself degrades quickly after being used by the body, and it never integrates into a person’s DNA or replicates like a live virus would so shedding is impossible.

Watch between 5mins and 7.30mins of the video in the below link.  More than one doctor speaking about P53 and it's "job" in the body and how MRNA effects it. 

 

https://rumble.com/vtao85-dod-and-fauci-caught-in-massive-scandal-hiding-death-and-damage-from-covid-.html

 

In layman's terms, it can unlock the bad cells in our body to cause cancer. 

 

MRNA may have "coded" people's immune system to fight covid, but at what long term health cost? 

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Watch between 5mins and 7.30mins of the video in the below link.  More than one doctor speaking about P53 and it's "job" in the body and how MRNA effects it. 

 

https://rumble.com/vtao85-dod-and-fauci-caught-in-massive-scandal-hiding-death-and-damage-from-covid-.html

 

In layman's terms, it can unlock the bad cells in our body to cause cancer. 

 

MRNA may have "coded" people's immune system to fight covid, but at what long term health cost? 

 

I'm guessing we will only know for sure.........in the long term.

[KhunHeineken]

10 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I believe in measurement. If you don't measure it, you can't control it.

 

Every three months, I have blood tests, which include a test for COVID antibodies.

 

I still have COVID antibodies in my system after 12 months. Not a lot, but they are there.

 

I don't know about others, but your assertion is false in my case.

You do know that those antibodies, what's left of them, were for only the original strain of covid, and not subsequent strains. 

 

You may have some slight protection against the original strain, should you catch it, but what about the others back then, and the new ones now?

[KhunHeineken]

17 hours ago, Airalee said:

Yup….and on sale!

 

whoo hoo!

 

 

I bet they can't give it away. 

[KhunHeineken]

17 hours ago, Airalee said:

The CDC recommends COVID-19 vaccination for everyone ages 6 months and older, including people who are pregnant, breastfeeding, or might become pregnant in the future.
 

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/covid-19-vaccines-2024-2025

Astra no longer an option, globally.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-08/astrazeneca-withdraws-covid-19-vaccine-vaxzevria/103819422

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, KhunHeineken said:

You do know that those antibodies, what's left of them, were for only the original strain of covid, and not subsequent strains. 

 

You may have some slight protection against the original strain, should you catch it, but what about the others back then, and the new ones now?

I am not concerned about the new ones, they seem to be following the normal pattern of attenuation anyway.

 

I have had two bouts of COVID, the second was after bivalent Moderna. In both cases, runny nose and sore throat for 3 days, no other effects such as loss of taste and smell, or fatigue.

 

Everybody has their own take on what to do. Mine is to look upon COVID just like flu, another potentially dangerous respiratory disease with a jab every year.

 

Although I must say the flu jabs are more effective in preventing infection. I've been having them for more than 40 years, and have not had flu once. Touch wood.