Undercover International police

[JackGats]

18 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It would not surprise me in the least, especially if the authorities were Americans. They love to engage in nonsense, and enjoy nothing more than arresting a fellow American for sex crimes. 

This is unfortunately not a joke. The Department of Homeland Security now understands its mission statement as waging a war against "trafficking", ie against male heterosexuality. This is ignoble and unprecedented: an government department created to protect its citizens against terrorism and gangsterism dedicating itself instead to getting its own citizens into trouble abroad.

 

https://www.dhs.gov/topics/human-trafficking

[fredwiggy]

37 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It depends entirely on the nature of the crime, human trafficking, having sex with a 15 year old, sex of a non-consensual nature, these are relatively serious crimes. There are a lot of sex crimes which are not and yet the American authorities pursue them anyway. 

 

And very powerful and rich people who are involved in Sex and human trafficking are getting away with it and not being pursued, while little guys  are being pursued for very minor and very petty crimes. 

 

The American authorities are way way overzealous when it comes to the pursuit of sex crimes, and while I agree that serious sex crimes should be pursued, minor ones are not worthy of the resources. 

The American justice system, no matter the troubles, is decades ahead of what goes on here. Human trafficking and sex crimes against minors aren't relatively serious crimes. They are as high on the list as you can go besides murder, and the damage they cause is almost as bad. They should be prosecuted with extreme prejudice with the highest punishment that's allowed. That's the only way they will lower the amount. Any sex crimes are worthy of resources. You let animals that do these crimes off the hook or with a slap on the wrist they surely will do them again. Put them away for years and they'll think harder before trying them again.

 

The only thing that's true is that some are punished for minor crimes, like stealing and damage to property, harshly when others who do violent crimes are given much the same sentences. There was a time not long ago where people were jailed for 20 or more years for possessing marijuana, a drug which should have been legal all along, and some who intentionally kill others, a human life, are given 5 years. That's disturbed thinking by judges and prosecutors and they are the ones who need punishment. What sex crimes do you think aren't warranting punishment?

[fredwiggy]

49 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It is the relatively minor sex crimes that I have an issue with, for instance having sex with a 16 year old while illegal and immoral, is not the kind of crime that should result in a 10-year Federal sentence. 

 

Likewise having photos on your phone or your computer of nude women of legal age is also not a crime and yet people are being prosecuted for it. 

Anyone besides teens who targets a 16 year old for sex is a disturbed individual, should know better, and should be punished harshly. You let them get a fine or suspended sentence they'll do it again and again. The consent age under 18 is from disturbed officials who are thinking as a pedophile does. I haven't heard of anyone being prosecuted for nude photos of legal aged girls, although in some countries anything goes as far as the justice system is concerned. Idiots in power makes many wrong things happen.

[Yagoda]

My understanding is that the US Govt actively chases paeodos in cooperation with the Police in Thailand and Cambodia. Big $$ are involved too.

[georgegeorgia]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

It is the relatively minor sex crimes that I have an issue with, for instance having sex with a 16 year old while illegal and immoral, is not the kind of crime that should result in a 10-year Federal sentence. 

 

Likewise having photos on your phone or your computer of nude women of legal age is also not a crime and yet people are being prosecuted for it. 

16yo is legal age for consensus sex in most countries ( without payment) 

 

I have never heard of being arrested for having legal age nude pics on a phone?

[georgegeorgia]

20 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

prosecuted for it. 

Anyone besides teens who targets a 16 year old for sex is a disturbed individual, should know better, and should be punished harshly

That's your personal opinion and your welcome to it,no doubt your a hypocrite anyway 

 

If the Country or jurisdiction allows consensual sex at 16yo then so be it 

 

but you must follow the Law ,and your personal feelings don't come into it if the Law allows it ( wherever that Country is)

 

 

[fredwiggy]

10 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

That's your opinion,but you must follow the Law ,and your personal feelings don't come into it if the Law allows it ( wherever that Country is)

 

Having said that your personal feelings is based on heterosexuality

My personal feelings are from morality and looking at women as humans and not objects to use, and a person's brain isn't fully developed until their mid 20's, so rational thinking pales when they are still teens. Someone who makes a law that okays children having sex with adults is a very disturbed individual, and we have many of them in power.No doubt I'm a hypocrite? Another assumption. I've never been with any under aged girl in my life, and never will. It's called integrity and morals. People who say such things usually have something to hide and deflect.

[fredwiggy]

15 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

16yo is legal age for consensus sex in most countries ( without payment) 

 

I have never heard of being arrested for having legal age nude pics on a phone?

That age is for teens having consensual sex with teens in most cases, or less then 3 years difference. Doesn't make it right and others use it as an excuse to target young girls.

[cjinchiangrai]

It would be illegal for foreign police to arrest people. They are probably the tourist police. Foreigners helping the RTP. More sensationalist nonsense from this perpetual clown.

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, JackGats said:

This is unfortunately not a joke. The Department of Homeland Security now understands its mission statement as waging a war against "trafficking", ie against male heterosexuality. This is ignoble and unprecedented: an government department created to protect its citizens against terrorism and gangsterism dedicating itself instead to getting its own citizens into trouble abroad.

 

https://www.dhs.gov/topics/human-trafficking

It sounds like a very accurate description of many governmental agencies of the US. The overreach is spectacular and there are over 20 agencies that were formed specifically to fight terrorism which are now intruding upon the lives of innocent Americans on a dozen different levels. Every day. Heinous and mind boggling overuse of power and authority, and a waste of billions. 

[fredwiggy]

12 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It sounds like a very accurate description of many governmental agencies of the US. The overreach is spectacular and there are over 20 agencies that were formed specifically to fight terrorism which are now intruding upon the lives of innocent Americans on a dozen different levels. Every day. Heinous and mind boggling overuse of power and authority, and a waste of billions. 

How are they intruding on the lives of innocent Americans? They find , and stop terrorists. Isn't this what they're supposed to do, protecting others from extremists who kill innocents? What exactly are these agencies? The waste of billions is building a wall that stops very little from entering, and making more weapons than we'll ever need.

[Burma Bill]

22 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

is it true that Western countries have actual undercover police in Pattaya 

 

No proof but "Tourist Police Volunteers"?

No further comment from me.

[JackGats]

37 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

... the ones who think it's okay for older adult males to have sex with 16 year old girls who aren't responsible enough to make such decisions?

But if the male is a local 16-year old hoodlum who doesn't' even know what a condom is, it's suddenly alright for him to bed the 16 year-old girls isn't it? There's a name for this self-defeating ideology: age cuckoldry. Meanwhile the gutless Western man is getting what he deserves:

 

Higher and stricter age of consent laws that blackmail 99% men.
Stricter and less proof for sexual abuse hoax laws that affect 99% men.
Enormous funding for Anglo UN and NGO programs pushing feminism and restricting male heterosexuality.
Government tyranny happy to use feminism for increased power.
Male and female sexual jealousy.
Female sexual marketplace sexual strategy (envious MILFs)
Weak male sexual strategy of appeasing women to get laid.
Hypocritical and pathological christian feminism and evangelism.

 

The list goes on.
 

[jonbsails]

ICYMI.... The USA, in order to fight the International aspect of child s*x trafficking, and p*dophilia by approaching EXTREMELY poor farmers, then pay the farmers money to "rent" their kid a night or 2.  (especially in Camnodia) have some new laws. Which is terrific.  These laws are not enforced in Cambodia or Thailand or Nam or Laos....but whenthese pervs return home to USA they have a little surprise waiting for them.

The AHTJP ( Anti-Human Trafficking of Juvenile Protection), the LSHTSE (Law on the Suppression of Human Trafficking and Serial Exploitation) which are both under the CEOS (Child Exploitation & Obscenity Section)

What these laws do is allow for a felony charge if you go to a foreign nation and do your dirty work there....IF you did ANYTHING to facilitate the commission of these illegal s*x acts abroad. cameras bought that were used to video , posting to "p*rn Hub, even buying ickets to fly to the country where you do these things. Once they catch you, it's your ASS! And they have agents  who are ALL over the dark web, p*rn hub etc using AI to find videos of young ones.... then figuring out who is in the video, who posted etc. 

That's how ole Rugh James Cline got caught, spent 30 months in a Cambodian prison, and got extradited to the USA where he faces 120 years.

I am sick of the armies of pervs who think they can just drop in on a poor country like Cambodia, toss around a few dollars and destroy lives, then go home, safe and sound....immune from any prosecution.... if the SEA police miss them they think they are free. 

What I found is...offer these same people a little cash, and they switch sides pretty quickly! A cpla telphone calls....and imagine getting off the plane in Los Angeles, going through customs, and ending up in handcuff!!!

The USA and its citizens are the number one consumers of illegal s*x with minors and younger. I am sick of it. I wanna lock these scumbags up for as long as the law allows.

[jonbsails]

For the "list goes on" person.... that doesn't mean we don't fight it.  And kids having s*x with their peers is NOT what ANY of this is about. Unless there is an unwilling partner that is just  growing up..whether in Switzerland, Sudan, India  or the USA. We are talking about adults who transgress. And frankly I do not GAF what reasons one may have, or some sociological discussion that dances all over it , and then arrives at a pre-conceived abstract. Adults ...stay TF away from kids. PERIOD! No heart to heart talks about "alternative" lifestyles, no "buttons or flags" that invite curious kids to ask questions...NONE OF THAT <deleted>!

THAT is GROOMING!

I was in HS once, and I can NOT believe what we allow in our classrooms now. All those rainbow glasses, and the pride flag, and the Pride MONTH when people who DIE for this country of America get a SINGLE DAY! We give them a day.... that's it. No more marches/parades with that weird <deleted>. DSo it on your own time in your own private spaces. NOT our public roads to groom our children. IDGAF ....keep this <deleted> away from the kids. When they turn 18, they can do what they want, without any previous indoctrination into a culture. 

Just leave them alone.

How difficult is that, to just leave children OUT of your perversions?  Have all the bars you want, pee on one another in your own bath tubs, show your new tits in private, have an entire room full of porn in YOUR house but keep that <deleted> OUT OF SCOOL libraries. PERIOD!

Just like alcohol... adults can't just have freedom to share anything they want with young ones. There are restrictions. 

You dumbasses don't even realize how angry some parents  have become. 

[Patong2021]

20 hours ago, Andre0720 said:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/rcmp-sting-endangered-canadian-in-thailand/article992277/

 

Senior RCMP officers who approved an undercover operation that lured a Quebec man into buying heroin in Thailand have acknowledged in recently filed court documents that the project was conducted with no concern that it would put a Canadian citizen in danger of getting a death sentence from the Thai authorities.

The court documents filed in a Quebec Superior Court civil suit also show that the RCMP mistook their suspect for his drug-trafficking twin brother when the force's undercover agents went after him.

The man the RCMP targeted, a drug addict with no previous criminal record named Alain Olivier, was sentenced to death in a Bangkok court. He later received a Thai royal pardon, and his sentence was commuted to 40 years in prison.

Now back in Montreal on parole after eight years in a Bangkok jail, Mr. Olivier is suing the RCMP, saying he was unfairly ensnared in a sting operation.

Code-named Deception, the scheme has been controversial because undercover RCMP Corporal Derek Flanagan died during a botched drug purchase in Chiang Mai. Mr. Olivier, who had arranged the transaction, was arrested and handed over to the Thai police.

Transcripts of examinations for discovery were filed in court this week, including the deposition of former chief superintendent Frank Palmer, who, as officer in charge of federal operations in Vancouver, was one of the senior Mounties who approved the operation.

Mr. Palmer retired in 1997 after reaching the rank of deputy commissioner of the RCMP.

"It didn't bother you about bringing a Canadian citizen to Thailand to be arrested in Thailand for a crime you knew carried the death penalty? That didn't bother you at all?" Mr. Olivier's lawyer asked Mr. Palmer.

"No," he replied.

 

The conviction was in 1989. The person was a junkie. Yes, unfortunate, but his case against the RCMP was dismissed because he was not credible and could not substantiate his allegations of wrongdoing.

 

January 8, 2008  Superior Court of Quebec -Action dismissed.

January 17, 2013 Court of Appeal of Quebec -Appeal dismissed.

November 7, 2013  Supreme Court of Canada - Closed file for Leave of Appeal.

 

A case from 25+ years ago has no relevance anyway.

[georgegeorgia]

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

That age is for teens having consensual sex with teens in most cases, or less then 3 years difference. Doesn't make it right and others use it as an excuse to target young girls.

"Doesn't make it right"

Once again your personal feelings and not the Law ( in Australia and I believe the UK )

 

 

 

[fredwiggy]

36 minutes ago, jonbsails said:

ICYMI.... The USA, in order to fight the International aspect of child s*x trafficking, and p*dophilia by approaching EXTREMELY poor farmers, then pay the farmers money to "rent" their kid a night or 2.  (especially in Camnodia) have some new laws. Which is terrific.  These laws are not enforced in Cambodia or Thailand or Nam or Laos....but whenthese pervs return home to USA they have a little surprise waiting for them.

The AHTJP ( Anti-Human Trafficking of Juvenile Protection), the LSHTSE (Law on the Suppression of Human Trafficking and Serial Exploitation) which are both under the CEOS (Child Exploitation & Obscenity Section)

What these laws do is allow for a felony charge if you go to a foreign nation and do your dirty work there....IF you did ANYTHING to facilitate the commission of these illegal s*x acts abroad. cameras bought that were used to video , posting to "p*rn Hub, even buying ickets to fly to the country where you do these things. Once they catch you, it's your ASS! And they have agents  who are ALL over the dark web, p*rn hub etc using AI to find videos of young ones.... then figuring out who is in the video, who posted etc. 

That's how ole Rugh James Cline got caught, spent 30 months in a Cambodian prison, and got extradited to the USA where he faces 120 years.

I am sick of the armies of pervs who think they can just drop in on a poor country like Cambodia, toss around a few dollars and destroy lives, then go home, safe and sound....immune from any prosecution.... if the SEA police miss them they think they are free. 

What I found is...offer these same people a little cash, and they switch sides pretty quickly! A cpla telphone calls....and imagine getting off the plane in Los Angeles, going through customs, and ending up in handcuff!!!

The USA and its citizens are the number one consumers of illegal s*x with minors and younger. I am sick of it. I wanna lock these scumbags up for as long as the law allows.

I agree with much said, but I don't know where you get your information from, as other countries are the ones responsible for more trafficking and under age sex targeting than the US. Thailand is a major hub for this, and will continue to be until there are harsher penalties for trafficking. I agree on punishing these perverts, and who is responsible for attracting these girls into this sick trade.................https://igg-geo.org/en/2020/10/03/underage-prostitution-in-thailand-the-consequence-of-a-mass-sex-tourism/

[Brick Top]

France do have an undercover policeman on assignment in Pattaya, his name is

Inspector Clouseau

[PETERTHEEATER]

On 1/23/2025 at 7:06 AM, georgegeorgia said:

Do you think the rumours are true that Western countries have actual undercover police in Pattaya 

 

I was discussing this with a work colleague last night who told me he had witnessed a Australian  guy  being arrested by Australian Federal police in a Pattaya bar 

Are they stationed in Pattaya and for what reason ?

 

If I knew they were there I would of lodged a  police complaint about the view talay where I was overcharged and kidnapped where the swimming pool area was locked !

 

I recall German undercover police also  arrest people too in Pattaya

Are these rumours true ?

Do they mix around in bars etc ?

 

Who are they after ?

Ronald Biggs and Lord Lucan.

[Evil Penevil]

Forget all the discussions about the age of consent in Thailand.  They aren't relevant when it comes to prostitution.  .  The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, B.E. 2539 (1996) in Section 8 makes it illegal to pay for sex with any person under the age of 18.  Penalties are even tougher if they are under 15. 

 https://web.archive.org/web/20140228033956/http://www.thailaws.com/

 

Moreover, virtually all Western countries claim extraterritoriality when it comes to prostitution with under*ge partners.  That means you can be prosecuted for acts committed abroad.  Even if a foreigner is able to escape prison or get a light sentence in some countries through bribes, he can still get a heavy sentence when he returns home.

 

Thinks of it this way, gentlemen:  there's no country in the world where it is legal to pay for sex with a partner under 18.  End of story.

[fredwiggy]

3 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

"Doesn't make it right"

Once again your personal feelings and not the Law ( in Australia and I believe the UK )

 

 

 

There are many laws that were made by disturbed individuals worldwide, and some make no sense at all. Just because you can legally have sex with a 16 year old doesn't mean you have to. This is one reason the world is so out of control and dying every year. Personal feelings ar why some people attack younger girls and think it's okay. it isn't. They are targeted because they cannot get older women to be with, especially without paying, so resort to using whatever means they can to gain pleasure for themselves. The fact that there are thousands of these type of "men" is another reason we have so many problems. Morality isn't a bad thing. It's what separates us from animals.

[georgegeorgia]

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

There are many laws that were made by disturbed individuals worldwide, and some make no sense at all. Just because you can legally have sex with a 16 year old doesn't mean you have to. This is one reason the world is so out of control and dying every year. Personal feelings ar why some people attack younger girls and think it's okay. it isn't. They are targeted because they cannot get older women to be with, especially without paying, so resort to using whatever means they can to gain pleasure for themselves. The fact that there are thousands of these type of "men" is another reason we have so many problems. Morality isn't a bad thing. It's what separates us from animals.

Oh don't be homophobic and gender bias please !

[fredwiggy]

5 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Oh don't be homophobic and gender bias please !

Try to research more before you post things that have nothing to do with what's being said. I'm not prejudiced against anyone besides the mentally ill that use others for gain.

[jas007]

4 hours ago, JackGats said:

This is unfortunately not a joke. The Department of Homeland Security now understands its mission statement as waging a war against "trafficking", ie against male heterosexuality. This is ignoble and unprecedented: an government department created to protect its citizens against terrorism and gangsterism dedicating itself instead to getting its own citizens into trouble abroad.

 

https://www.dhs.gov/topics/human-trafficking

Years ago, people who didn't t like prostitution figured they would get more traction if they stated labeling all prostitution as "human trafficking."  And so they went on a crusade against "human trafficking." The while thing was turned into a joke.

 

Nutty people.  I don't pay much attention, but it's crazy. Anyone remember the feminist in Canada who was of the opinion that all heterosexual contact was "rape"? 

[Chriso48]

On 1/23/2025 at 4:21 PM, bkk6060 said:

A few years back I met 2 men and a lady in Pattaya at my hotel who said they were from Australia.  They claimed they worked for "an agency" and were investigating men having sex with underage girls.  They seemed legit, not sure who or what agency it was.  

I have met similar in Manila

[Hummin]

A friend of mine was enrolled in the Police special security forces, and often had embassy duty around the world. 

 

He didn't say much about what he actually did, but a few times we noticed high profiled criminal Norwegians had been arrested by local police in the very same places he had been. 

 

 

[KhunHeineken]

17 hours ago, GypsyT said:

Headline nr 2;

"Two Australian Federal Police Officers arrested in Pattaya for failing to do TM-30 in time."

 

Headline No. 3

 

"Two Australian Federal Police arrested in Pattaya now admit to not being Australian Federal Police."    

[KhunHeineken]

18 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

 

Organised crime as well my guess 

Out of their jurisdiction.  They would need to set up a joint task force.  They can be present at the raid / arrest, but it has to be done by Thai police. 

 

If the crime happened in Thailand, they are charged and brought before a court in Thailand.  If the crime happened in Australia, they are extradited and charged and brought before a court in Australia.

[georgegeorgia]

15 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Out of their jurisdiction.  They would need to set up a joint task force.  They can be present at the raid / arrest, but it has to be done by Thai police. 

 

If the crime happened in Thailand, they are charged and brought before a court in Thailand.  If the crime happened in Australia, they are extradited and charged and brought before a court in Australia.

As the case with the Bikie gangs