Trump Moves Forward with Tariffs on Canada and Mexico, Citing Trade Deficit and Border Issue

[FritsSikkink]

On 2/2/2025 at 8:48 AM, The Old Bull said:

Right now the US is strong enough it can bully anyone but when that changes and it will, there is a long list of nations ready to  stick it to them.Trump is making the list longer.

 

Strong enough?

Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, all success stories

[FritsSikkink]

21 hours ago, Smokin Joe said:

 

Citizens? Really?

 

No! People in the USA illegally are not citizens, they are criminals. Which is why they are referred to as illegal aliens.

 

Do you also believe that someone on overstay in Thailand is considered a Thai citizen?

Yet foreigners in Thailand who don't obey immigration laws, claim they don't hurt anyone.

[FritsSikkink]

13 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

 

Ah yes that powerhouse Fentanyl exporter, Canada

43 pounds in a year, OMG the excited states of america will be ruined.

 

The vast amounts of USA's addicts are the problem. Why do they have so many?

[Hummin]

23 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Strong enough?

Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, all success stories

Economical power works different against people, than bombs against people or regimes who is willing to sacrifice 100 thousands of people and also willing  exploit their own people.

[FritsSikkink]

Trump on more tariffs:

_{"It will definitely happen with the European Union. I can tell you that because they've really taken advantage of us," Trump told reporters on Sunday.}

_{"They don't take our cars, they don't take our farm products. They take almost nothing and we take everything from them."}

 

_{Maybe start to make better, healthier products for a change.}

[brfsa2]

On 2/2/2025 at 9:00 AM, Lacessit said:

You have to admire a nation that runs up a $28 trillion debt without being called to account, and just keeps on printing money.

Of course, and that is why both Trump and Musk knows very well that only BTC can't be printed.

 

China is just too strong now in both Goods Manufacturing, Technology and LLM. TRUMP can try to put brakes on the goods manufacturing, he is trying hard to stop Chinese beast of technology by the EV cars tax BS, but that will only put a dent in the Dragon.

 

Just look at the DeepSeek, that was a glorious blow to the USA and the rest of world. Trump will not be able to stop China technological domination even with crazy Taxing.

 

if you dont know Deepseek, it can perform as good and even better in some areas than OpenAI, Claude and Facebook's LlamaAI, and still spend 1/10 of the required processing power and energy.

 

It may sound like no big deal right? it is a huge deal! the power required for AI is really a lot, look at the price of an Nvidia H100 or H200 , with Deepeek I can run it on my mac!

[FritsSikkink]

On 2/2/2025 at 2:54 PM, Keep Right said:

 the United States benefiting from the US strong economy due to innovation, education and the American work ethic. 

Quite delusional: China’s ‘artificial sun’ fuels Western fears it has lost race to energy holy grail

[brfsa2]

6 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Quite delusional: China’s ‘artificial sun’ fuels Western fears it has lost race to energy holy grail

Now Imagine a China with an unlimited source of clean energy. Just imagine, since today their energy requirement is so large, they need to burn coal. what will that mean for the rest of the world, china without need to use coal or hydro, and with new cheap electricity.

Because if they achieve that with Fusion energy, and I think they will very soon, it will put China in a position, kind of game over to the trade tariff wars...

[FritsSikkink]

2 minutes ago, brfsa2 said:

Now Imagine a China with an unlimited source of clean energy. Just imagine, since today their energy requirement is so large, they need to burn coal. what will that mean for the rest of the world, china without need to use coal or hydro, and with new cheap electricity.

Because if they achieve that with Fusion energy, and I think they will very soon, it will put China in a position, kind of game over to the trade tariff wars...

Trump could offer to buy China or invade it.

[CallumWK]

Trump already moves backwards with tariffs.

 

Mexico tariffs already paused, next will be Canada and China, and this is not because they kissed Trump's arse, but because his feet hurt from shooting them.

I have such a feeling that he doesn't make it alive til July. What an idiot. MAGA, Make America Go Appalling.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/live-trump-says-tariffs-on-mexico-paused-for-a-month-canada-china-duties-set-to-take-effect-tuesday-191201428.html

 

 

[kwonitoy]

8 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

The vast amounts of USA's addicts are the problem. Why do they have so many?

 

A lot of it came from the opioid crisis started by Purdue Pharma who flooded the US with oxycontin somewhat legally supplied by pill mills.

People got hooked and when that supply was curtailed they turned to heroin, and fentanyl which is extremely powerful

 

This book has a very good explanation 

• Dreamland: The True Tale of America's Opiate Epidemic. ...

[riclag]

Mexico offering 10 thousand troops to

Stop “ all manifestations of illegal activities”.

1 month wait & see !

 

Good that saves Rubio a trip !

[Bannoi]

Trump is destroying the USA's reputation in the world looks like he's trying to bring it down to his level.