Wake Up! - EVs Are Here, and Your Gas Guzzler is on Life Support

[JBChiangRai]

2 hours ago, connda said:

I doubt it.  Especially in third-world countries like Thailand.  Here's reality: How do you force an entire population to purchase new EVs?
The average citizens of Thailand is a debt-slave whose credit is already overextended to the breaking point, which in turn is over-extending the viability of Thai banks and financial institutions?

The answer?  They can't. 

At this point Thailand doesn't even have the infrastructure to handle EVs.  Gas stations rein.  EV charging stations don't.  So sure, the government can eventually outlaw ICE vehicles and petrol, but in the process they'll collapse their economies and society to boot.  ICE and EVs will both be sharing the roads in 2035 and beyond.  Slowly - not by government edict but by consumer choice, especially if new EV are cheaper than ICE vehicles to purchase and operate - then perhaps the majority of citizens eventually will own EVs.  Ain't happening anytime soon without tanking the world economies. And if we have a major X-Class CME in the meantime (we're historically way over-due for "The Big One Carrington-style) then all bets are off the table.

I agree with everything you said in your post except this “At this point Thailand doesn't even have the infrastructure to handle EVs. ”

 

Thailand has an excellent EV charging infrastructure.

 

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

I have driven from Chiang Rai to Chiang Mai and back again in the same day, started by topping up in Chiang Rai. I did the trip there and back without refueling. In a Mazda 2.

 

Can you do that?

Yes, and I have done it with just under 20% SoC left.

[atpeace]

19 hours ago, Lacessit said:

About every 2-3 months, I travel between Chiang Rai and Chiang Mai to visit friends. About 200 km.

 

I usually refuel going back at Doi Saket. There are about a dozen fuel pumps at the station, and a single EV charger.

 

So what do you do in that situation if a couple of EV's are waiting there before you to be charged? Drink coffee for an hour?

 

I have no doubt EV's are much cheaper to run, and most owners refuel at home. However, on the road, permit me to doubt they are as convenient to refuel as an ICE.

 

If I did run out of fuel on the road, a jerry can solves the problem. An EV, the only option is a tow truck, unless you want to cart a portable generator around with you.

 

Life support for gas guzzlers? Not in my lifetime.

You are correct IMO in that ICE cars are much better for trips over 200 kilometers ( probably 250to 280).  I drive well over 250 kilometers about once a month and it can be frustrating at times the with the EV.  Usually I just remind myself to calm down and why rush.  I'm retired, have the luxury of time, and usually traveling solo.

 

As one poster stated, It take 20 minutes to charge from 30-80% is far from accurate in my experience and you will be looking for another charger in a little over 100 kilometers after charging to 80%.  Charger not working, chargers full, extremely slow charger, no electronic chargers on your route(detour time!) to name a few of the challenges.

 

I enjoy my EV and it fits my lifestyle very well.  By far the best car I've ever owned.  Just took the Hilux on a 60 kilometer trip and simply don't like it anymore.  Still debating if I need both.  Can't wait till they come out with a Truck that cost around a million baht.

 

 

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, atpeace said:

You are correct IMO in that ICE cars a.  Still debating if I need both.  Can't wait till they come out with a Truck that cost around a million baht.

[atpeace]

9 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Well, there we have it.  Wait a year to verify it is legit and then this will be my next car unless(probable) there is even a better option.  Funny, now that I switched to renewables for most my energy needs, I'm spending more than ever before but it is fun.

[Yellowtail]

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Quicker than it took you to write that daft comment..... 

What next, how long does it take you step out of the car and close the door ????

 

Pathetic Yellowtail - stick with the sensible stuff.

I spent a fair share of the last thirty years doing time studies to balance flow and design workstations, but okay, it takes no time.