Elon Musk Urges US to 'delete' Federal Agencies in Government Overhaul

[Harrisfan]

22 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Dude cracks me up. 

 

 

What does Churchill know about life in 2025? Nothing. 

[frank83628]

7 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

If Musk is now president and Trump is Vice President, what on earth is Vance? Secretary? The guy who runs to Starbucks? 

Grow up you silly man

[beautifulthailand99]

9 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Maybe one of the , like really stable genius MAGAs here, can riddle me this.....

 

If President Musk deletes 25% of the Federal workforce, how much money is saved?

 

(Hint: It's less than 1% of the Federal Budget, but it will slow govt services like tax refunds, inspecting food for bacteria, getting a passport, approving new drugs, monitoring ports for contraband, etc. But hey, that <1% of the budget, which might mean 26 cents for the average MAGA, is worth waiting 3 years for your passport, right, or a dirty bomb getting through Baltimore and into Washington, DC?)

 

Where's the actual fraud, waste and abuse? I suggest in that Fox Talk Show Host's department...Defense. Of the top 10 defense budgets on planet Earth (is Musk still here?), the US' is larger than the next 9 combined. I don't see anybody invading any of those other 9, except Ukraine. Heck, Pete the SecDef just got $50,000 to repaint his official residence. Now if he and Elon had any brains, they would pay a couple of illegal aliens five hundred bucks to do the job...and THEN deport them. Oh, and Elon isn't on any GS-system; he's getting paid $8 million a month for his DOGEwork, as if he needs the money.

 

It's pretty dangerous to think just because a guy can hire smart engineers who can figure out how to catch a rocket booster he also can instantly determine where all the fraud, waste and abuse is in government, especially when he hires 19 year old college freshman to help. As I noted in another thread about the actions of President Musk, USAID funded prison guards in Syria who look after hundreds of ISIS jihadis. When their pay stopped, the guards left. Shortly thereafter, so did the ISIS jihadis. Call me a cynic, but I don't think those jihadis were rehabilitated in that Syrian jail. I suspect they're going to go back to doing what they do best, which is killing innocent people, some of whom are4 likely to be Americans.

Getting men to Mars ain't cheap.

[John Drake]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Did anyone see the press conference with Musk and Trump in the Oval Office? Musk's son appears to say to Trump you are not president you should leave, and then wipes a booger on his desk. At least somebody knows how to show this man the disrespect that he richly deserves. And the kid is likely repeating what Musk is saying at home. 

 

I like much that DOGE has uncovered and am happy to see cuts where needed. I do feel, however, that the deportment of Musk has been depraved and positively low brow. I'm ready to allow him to run his technical audit. But he has no business using that material to suggest government policies or advocate for bills, such as he and Vivek did for the continuing budget vote. The White House and the Oval Office doesn't need to be made into some nightmare version of Romper Room. Musk is good  at figuring out how to get things into space and maybe make cars. His politics are poisonous however. That Trump can't see this is yet another indictment of Trump's poor people skills. Elon/Trump are leading us into a disaster in Ukraine that will resemble another China 1949 debacle, where Joe Stilwell so poisoned the US relationship with Chiang Kai-shek during World War II that he created an atmosphere that turned off support of Chiang after the war and made Mao's victory possible. Sometimes your allies are going to be corrupt. But it's better them winning than your enemies. I still think Trump wants to do a Nixon Goes To China gambit. And with Musk pushing in that direction, we just might get it. Catastrophe.

[mogandave]

2 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

I like much that DOGE has uncovered and am happy to see cuts where needed. I do feel, however, that the deportment of Musk has been depraved and positively low brow. I'm ready to allow him to run his technical audit. But he has no business using that material to suggest government policies or advocate for bills, such as he and Vivek did for the continuing budget vote. The White House and the Oval Office doesn't need to be made into some nightmare version of Romper Room. Musk is good  at figuring out how to get things into space and maybe make cars. His politics are poisonous however. That Trump can't see this is yet another indictment of Trump's poor people skills. Elon/Trump are leading us into a disaster in Ukraine that will resemble another China 1949 debacle, where Joe Stilwell so poisoned the US relationship with Chiang Kai-shek during World War II that he created an atmosphere that turned off support of Chiang after the war and made Mao's victory possible. Sometimes your allies are going to be corrupt. But it's better them winning than your enemies. I still think Trump wants to do a Nixon Goes To China gambit. And with Musk pushing in that direction, we just might get it. Catastrophe.

Every American has the right to suggest government policy and to advocate for bills. 

 

It is common for grass-roots efforts to have constituents call their representatives and let their opinions be known. 

 

I am all for deleting any number of departments, particularly the Department of DisEducation. 

[frank83628]

7 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Did anyone see the press conference with Musk and Trump in the Oval Office? Musk's son appears to say to Trump you are not president you should leave, and then wipes a booger on his desk. At least somebody knows how to show this man the disrespect that he richly deserves. And the kid is likely repeating what Musk is saying at home. 

How old are you? I think Musks kid haze more credibility than you and everyone posting here, you sad sad  old man

 

[Patong2021]

11 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Like Obama, Biden and Clinton 

 

Ok. However, weren't you previously saying that the Trump collective would change all that?

And no there isn't any evidence to support your claim that the 3 presidents you mention profited from their activity while in office.

Trump obliges his secret service  detail and  white house workers to pay for  accommodation and meals at Trump owned facilities  when he makes his near weekly return to  his home in Florida. Why is Musk allowed access to business competitors' files and contracts? Why was he meeting with Modi at the White House to discuss his projects in India?

The MAGA collective would be the first to scream and claim criminal conspiracies if it was anyone other than the Trump  cabal.

[kwonitoy]

12 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Maybe one of the , like really stable genius MAGAs here, can riddle me this.....

 

If President Musk deletes 25% of the Federal workforce, how much money is saved?

 

(Hint: It's less than 1% of the Federal Budget, but it will slow govt services like tax refunds, inspecting food for bacteria, getting a passport, approving new drugs, monitoring ports for contraband, etc. But hey, that <1% of the budget, which might mean 26 cents for the average MAGA, is worth waiting 3 years for your passport, right, or a dirty bomb getting through Baltimore and into Washington, DC?)

 

Where's the actual fraud, waste and abuse? I suggest in that Fox Talk Show Host's department...Defense. Of the top 10 defense budgets on planet Earth (is Musk still here?), the US' is larger than the next 9 combined. I don't see anybody invading any of those other 9, except Ukraine. Heck, Pete the SecDef just got $50,000 to repaint his official residence. Now if he and Elon had any brains, they would pay a couple of illegal aliens five hundred bucks to do the job...and THEN deport them. Oh, and Elon isn't on any GS-system; he's getting paid $8 million a month for his DOGEwork, as if he needs the money.

 

It's pretty dangerous to think just because a guy can hire smart engineers who can figure out how to catch a rocket booster he also can instantly determine where all the fraud, waste and abuse is in government, especially when he hires 19 year old college freshman to help. As I noted in another thread about the actions of President Musk, USAID funded prison guards in Syria who look after hundreds of ISIS jihadis. When their pay stopped, the guards left. Shortly thereafter, so did the ISIS jihadis. Call me a cynic, but I don't think those jihadis were rehabilitated in that Syrian jail. I suspect they're going to go back to doing what they do best, which is killing innocent people, some of whom are4 likely to be Americans.

 

 

Here's a pretty good answer, Walker

And from a Republican

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/15/2025 at 9:07 AM, Social Media said:

However, critics argue that dismantling entire federal agencies could lead to significant disruptions in essential services and governance.  

Define "essential". Seems to me that what government drones class as essential is merely a means of keeping a well paid job while doing nothing much, or even being bad for society- just make work for government lackeys that don't want to do a real job.

 

I for one wish we had an Elon to lay waste to government malfeasance in this country.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, frank83628 said:

How old are you? I think Musks kid haze more credibility than you and everyone posting here, you sad sad  old man

 

I like that

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, John Drake said:

Sometimes your allies are going to be corrupt. But it's better them winning than your enemies.

I don't remember Russia being the "enemy" prior to the Ukraine invasion. The Euros certainly loved it's gas.

 

Seems the propaganda machine is doing it's work well, in certain circles.

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't remember Russia being the "enemy" prior to the Ukraine invasion. The Euros certainly loved it's gas.

 

Seems the propaganda machine is doing it's work well, in certain circles.

Seems like these days invading your neighbors is the new norm, and it's become acceptable by certain members of this forum. 

[Harrisfan]

7 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Ok. However, weren't you previously saying that the Trump collective would change all that?

And no there isn't any evidence to support your claim that the 3 presidents you mention profited from their activity while in office.

Trump obliges his secret service  detail and  white house workers to pay for  accommodation and meals at Trump owned facilities  when he makes his near weekly return to  his home in Florida. Why is Musk allowed access to business competitors' files and contracts? Why was he meeting with Modi at the White House to discuss his projects in India?

The MAGA collective would be the first to scream and claim criminal conspiracies if it was anyone other than the Trump  cabal.

They all made money. Patong has google. Give it a try.

 

Bill Clinton Increased His Wealth by the Most After Presidency, Barack Obama Was Second

 

https://www.newsweek.com/chart-shows-net-worth-us-presidents-before-after-office-1992975

On 2/13/2025 at 8:54 AM, Harrisfan said:

 

 

[Yellowtail]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't remember Russia being the "enemy" prior to the Ukraine invasion. The Euros certainly loved it's gas.

 

Seems the propaganda machine is doing it's work well, in certain circles.

Yeah, Obama loved him some Russia, not as much as he loved Iran but still....

 

[Harrisfan]

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

When are you going to grow up enough to post something that is not a childish response?

When are you socialists going to stop whining and get some hobbies. It's been 100 years of whining.

[Lacessit]

9 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Paranoid much. He is cutting waste.

IME consultants who come in promising to save money achieve very little. Of course, they claim to have saved a motza.

 

No-one ever goes back a few years later to check how much money was actually saved. Meantime, said consultants reap fat fees for their services.

 

The effect they have is to destroy morale, and create chaos.

 

You think Musk is doing this out of altruism? Naive much? Or are you just thick?

[Yellowtail]

Just now, Lacessit said:

IME consultants who come in promising to save money achieve very little. Of course, they claim to have saved a motza.

 

No-one ever goes back a few years later to check how much money was actually saved. Meantime, said consultants reap fat fees for their services.

 

The effect they have is to destroy morale, and create chaos.

 

You think Musk is doing this out of altruism? Naive much? Or are you just thick?

Please try to keep is down when the adults are speaking. 

[Harrisfan]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

IME consultants who come in promising to save money achieve very little. Of course, they claim to have saved a motza.

 

No-one ever goes back a few years later to check how much money was actually saved. Meantime, said consultants reap fat fees for their services.

 

The effect they have is to destroy morale, and create chaos.

 

You think Musk is doing this out of altruism? Naive much? Or are you just thick?

Give it 6 to 12 months. Whining after a few days please. Give it a rest. Thick people whinge, intelligent people have patience.

[Yellowtail]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Give it 6 to 12 months. Whining after a few days please. Give it a rest.

The left is desperate to keep the gravy train of taxpayer money going to their cronies NGOs. 

 

That they fight tooth and nail to keep the drag shows going is hilarious. 

[Harrisfan]

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The effect they have is to destroy morale, and create chaos.

2 wars

Border chaos

Record inflation

1m covid deaths

 

Biden was good at chaos 

[Harrisfan]

18 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

The left is desperate to keep the gravy train of taxpayer money going to their cronies NGOs. 

 

That they fight tooth and nail to keep the drag shows going is hilarious. 

The left complain non stop. It won't matter what Trump does. It's not about Trump it's about leftists trying to bully people into being leftists. Not all bullies and complainers are leftists but all leftists are bullies and complainers. They hunt in packs because they are herd animals.

[scottiejohn]

10 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

What does Churchill know about life in 2025? Nothing. 

I don't think that Churchill knows anything anymore as he has been dead since 1965!

[scottiejohn]

45 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

When are you going to grow up enough to post something that is not a childish response?

You cannot change the habits of a lifetime!

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

You cannot change the habits of a lifetime!

Get a room you two!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Yellowtail]

12 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

The left complain non stop. It won't matter what Trump does. It's not about Trump it's about leftists trying to bully people into being leftists. Not all bullies and complainers are leftists but all leftists are bullies and complainers. They hunt in packs because they are herd animals.

Yeah, and notice how leftists fancy themselves brilliant, and call everyone they disagree with a fool. They can't stand that even with all their brilliance, so many stupid rich people have more than they do. It's not fair mommy!!!

 

They all seem to be seething with hate as well. I think a lot of hate may come from the way they envy the rich. 

 

[Harrisfan]

8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yeah, and notice how leftists fancy themselves brilliant, and call everyone they disagree with a fool. They can't stand that even with all their brilliance, so many stupid rich people have more than they do. It's not fair mommy!!!

 

They all seem to be seething with hate as well. I think a lot of hate may come from the way they envy the rich. 

 

Not all haters are leftists but all lefists are haters. You never see happy socialists. Look at the famous ones, millionaires but miserable.

[hydraides]

Alot of People on this forum are too dumb to realise this is the, 'Great Reset' by another method, Destroy the old system and replace with AI total control, digital currency etc

 

How can people be so stupid as not to see through this??

[Harrisfan]

19 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

If only they could articulate things as well as you.

(BTW, I know you won't get it, so this is sarcasm)

If only socialists stopped complaining or insulting people but never do. 

[proton]

On 2/15/2025 at 6:29 AM, HappyExpat57 said:

People are already dying for lack of food and medical care USAID used to provide.

 

Evidence? sounds like you wish it was the case to support your claims of DOGE being illegal and damaging. Do you think getting men out of women's sports is killing people as well?

[Harrisfan]

6 minutes ago, hydraides said:

Alot of People on this forum are too dumb to realise this is the, 'Great Reset' by another method, Destroy the old system and replace with AI total control, digital currency etc

 

How can people be so stupid as not to see through this??

So you are smart and others are dumb because they don't wear tin foil hats.