JD Schools the Euro Socialists

[Tug]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Yes. let's do that. Junk the fat-headed deal for $360 billion worth of obsolete nuclear submarines.

 

Australia can start by putting reciprocal tariffs on every American product. The US has a positive balance of trade.

 

Then we can tell you to remove all your secret bases which make us a nuclear target. What the hell, it only neuters half your surveillance capabilities in your race with China.

 

Afterwards, nationalize all American assets in Australia.

 

You need us more than we need you.

 

 

Unfortunately I think the (race with China)is lost.just what do you think XI is going to think of trumps abject abandoning of Ukraine?or Europe for that matter…..

[TedG]

6 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The title of this thread should read: " JD manages to alienate a few more allies".

Your so bias, nothing he states will please you.

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

Unfortunately I think the (race with China)is lost.just what do you think XI is going to think of trumps abject abandoning of Ukraine?or Europe for that matter…..

He's going to think it hilarious how stupid American leftists lie incessantly. 

[JAG]

10 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Oh I didnt mean the Brits at Normandy, but you must be one since you are so offended that Field Marshall Haig was an ignorant butcher

What are you wittering on about - Field Marshal Haig commanded the British Army on the Western Front in the First World War. He died in 1928.

 

[Lacessit]

3 minutes ago, TedG said:

Your so bias, nothing he states will please you.

It's true, I have this bias against liars and religious fruit cakes.

[Yagoda]

10 minutes ago, Tug said:

I apologize for my lousy grammer and spelling I had to start working young please be specific about the freedom hating Cunard and if your leaches comment has do do with military matters they don’t have nearly the facilities nore the commitments we do here in the states.if that comment is directed towards the trade deficit that’s because WE BUY STUFF more than we sell.even a poorly educated one as myself can EASILY understand that 

Even worse than before. Stop drinking.

[Yagoda]

14 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Afterwards, nationalize all American assets in Australia.

Thats the Socialist spirit!

[GammaGlobulin]

15 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

you

 

Me?

 

At my age, I have no skin in this Great Game.

 

Please...

Just leave me out of it...

 

[Yagoda]

9 minutes ago, Tug said:

Unfortunately I think the (race with China)is lost.just what do you think XI is going to think of trumps abject abandoning of Ukraine?or Europe for that matter…..

He is going to worry about the increased firepower we have in the Pacific if we dont have to babysit the Euros over their imaginary pest Russian enemy and keep them from killing each other on ethnic, political or religious grounds.

[Yagoda]

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It's true, I have this bias against liars and religious fruit cakes.

Religious fruitcakes, at least the American kind, are far less dangerous than Socialists.

[blaze master]

6 hours ago, Lacessit said:

6 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Allies implies equality, not a teat sucking infant with a nursery falling apart.

 

You offer nothing in terms of military might.

America was only too happy to have Australian boots on the ground in a number of its military adventures.

 

You should read history, instead of trying to revise it

 

Useless pawns are always needed in military offensives.

[Purdey]

12 hours ago, Yagoda said:

He really hit a nerve as the technocrats are screaming.

 

Here is one mans take:

https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/02/15/jd-vance-has-signed-the-death-warrant-of-the-status-quo/

 

Time for hard truths. Guess we know why we have so much hysteria here from the folks whose boot is being lifted off the people.

 

 

 

Good speech about what not to do, not banning dissenting voices, like was done to the Associated Press for not obeying his boss.

But aside from that confusing message, his speechwriter did a good job.

[RayC]

50 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

 

https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/john-mosier/the-myth-of-the-great-war/

 

You can check his sources.

 

Mosier's is a contranian view. This book has been widely criticised. From his Wikipedia entry:

 

"Mosier has come under criticism, with some scholars calling his work "deeply flawed"[4] and "dreadful".[5] The Myth of the Great War: A New Military History of World War I has been said to have a "contempt for history,"[5] and overlooks huge parts of history that debunk the narrative being created".

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, RayC said:

 

Mosier's is a contranian view. This book has been widely criticised. From his Wikipedia entry:

 

"Mosier has come under criticism, with some scholars calling his work "deeply flawed"[4] and "dreadful".[5] The Myth of the Great War: A New Military History of World War I has been said to have a "contempt for history,"[5] and overlooks huge parts of history that debunk the narrative being created".

Check his sources like I said. Read the book.

[Yagoda]

20 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Good speech about what not to do, not banning dissenting voices, like was done to the Associated Press for not obeying his boss.

But aside from that confusing message, his speechwriter did a good job.

You dont think that the Pres has the power to bar fake news outlets?

 

Especially an organization or members who have potential criminal liability for the possible misuse of Federal funds?

[RayC]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Check his sources like I said. Read the book.

 

Why do his sources negate the criticism?

 

I am not interested enough to spend money on the book.

[Yagoda]

 

4 minutes ago, RayC said:

I am not interested enough to spend money on the book.

I think its free on Kindle Unlimited. I just reread it as part of a Seminar on Attrition

[hotsun]

7 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The title of this thread should read: " JD manages to alienate a few more allies".

Americas allies are israel and japan. Not the euros who focus on other countries problems and not their own

[Lacessit]

6 hours ago, hotsun said:

Americas allies are israel and japan. Not the euros who focus on other countries problems and not their own

I thought Australia was an ally, although it might not be for much longer if Trump persists with his moronic tariffs.

[frank83628]

14 hours ago, WorriedNoodle said:

JD is still in election mode for his US audience. Like a fish out of water outside his personal space. A disgraceful initial performance on the world stage.

In your opinion

[scottiejohn]

9 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

https://www.history.com/news/germany-world-war-i-debt-treaty-versailles

 

US saved europe twice from wars and europe owes the US a great thanks. All speaking German otherwise.

It was NOT done either voluntarily or through altruism.

You were forced into joining both wars LATE!

[scottiejohn]

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Oh I didnt mean the Brits at Normandy, but you must be one since you are so offended that Field Marshall Haig was an ignorant butcher

What is the connection between the WW11 Normandy landings (1944) and WW1 Field Marshall Haig (died 1928)?

[scottiejohn]

8 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

He's going to think it hilarious how stupid American leftists lie incessantly. 

Hilarious statement coming from a MAGAlomaniac. 

How do you know when Trump and his supporters are lying? They speak!

[scottiejohn]

9 hours ago, RayC said:

 

Don't be silly.

He can't help it!

[Yellowtail]

9 hours ago, Purdey said:

Good speech about what not to do, not banning dissenting voices, like was done to the Associated Press for not obeying his boss.

But aside from that confusing message, his speechwriter did a good job.

That the left has to lie is the big tell. 

 

No one has banned dissenting voices but the left. 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

51 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Hilarious statement coming from a MAGAlomaniac. 

How do you know when Trump and his supporters are lying? They speak!

The joke is "their lips are moving" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

[scottiejohn]

37 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

The joke is "their lips are moving" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

I was not joking!  If Trump and his supporters are speaking then there is a very high percentage chance that they sre lying.

Just look at the thousands of lies Trump made during his first term!

 

PS;  Just because their lips are moving it does not mean they are speaking therefore they are not necessarily lying!  Hence the wording I used.

[Yagoda]

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I thought Australia was an ally, although it might not be for much longer if Trump persists with his moronic tariffs.

Servant. Allies implies equality of power, not one who receives more than he gives. 

 

You got bases, you got minerals and not much else. Do you have a Navy? Lots of coastline. The manly Aussie soldiers stalking Japanese in the jungle is no more and you have turned into a nation of entitled woke whingers enabled by our blood and treasure. 

 

We will tariff you as we so chose and there is nothing you can do about it. We guarantee your freedom, now do what you are told when told.

[Galong]

Meanwhile, the background story is that Trump is a puppet for Putin. Vance is alienating our allies by insulting them, which is a tacky move.  It's especially tacky considering the current state of the US.  Putin's goal is to get the US out of NATO so he can eventually take over Europe. Myopic nationalists only focus on the 'socialism' aspect of Europe, which is a problem, but fail to see the big picture. The leaders are counting on the citizens only being able to play Checkers while they're making Chess moves. 

[Kiwiken]

18 hours ago, Lacessit said:

America was only too happy to have Australian boots on the ground in a number of its military adventures.

 

You should read history, instead of trying to revise it.

America has never won any war in the 20th or 21st century on its own