Tips for first time tourists, especially western teenage girls

[Harrisfan]

9 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Actually facts as the world's over population can attest, especially with so many single parent families run by moms or grandmas. Are you still with those you slept with on night 1 or 2?

Yes and they have birth control and condoms now. Its not 1850.

[SMIAI]

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

He's asking for advice so he can tell the girls he's talking about before they come.

 

Maybe it's over your head on what real life is about, but assuming isn't going to help you.

 

I know real life. I lived it and am living it. I was that nineteen year old boy who met loads of trusting girls. They had a great time and lots of wonderful memories and we are still friends. Whereas you are just posting from fear of things that you have read about and are assuming. Any girls associated with your way of thinking would have a lonely and boring life. How sad.

[fredwiggy]

13 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Yes and they have birth control and condoms now. Its not 1850.

Funny how the population is still increasing though, as is single parent families.

[Harrisfan]

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Funny how the population is still increasing though, as is single parent families.

From 1 night stands 

[fredwiggy]

13 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

 

I know real life. I lived it and am living it. I was that nineteen year old boy who met loads of trusting girls. They had a great time and lots of wonderful memories and we are still friends. Whereas you are just posting from fear of things that you have read about and are assuming. Any girls associated with your way of thinking would have a lonely and boring life. How sad.

Actually it's you that's assuming. Yes, you met loads of trusting girls, as we all have, and a lot of them became victims of violence from partners, although you don't know this because you don't keep in touch with those loads of girls. If you in fact keep in touch with 5 I'd be very surprised, although you might exaggerate to try and get your point across. it doesn't work here.  I have no fear of anything. I don't assume though many here do. You obviously have no idea how many women and girls live a sad, fearful life because of boys taking advantage of them.

[JackGats]

Tourists can get a SIM card at the airport, although it may come out cheaper from the AIS or TRUE shop in Bangkok. No paying with QR in real time unless you have a Thai bank account I think, although means of payment like Google Wallet or Apple Pay should work but are less often offered by businesses.

 

Thailand a very safe country relatively speaking, although women will like to be potential victims even in Thailand. Even when visiting the Vatican the wymmyns will want to be considered at risk of rape & assault. They wear their victimhood like a badge of honour.

[fredwiggy]

27 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

 

Nonsense. You are an old man who likely didn't go through that rite of passage..

Backpackers trust each other in the main and through that they make friends for life and have amazing experiences.

It doesn't sound as if you had anything like that in your life and hence, your outlook that comes from your bad imagination.

Yes, there are risks. But that's life. Be careful but don't be a stick in the mud who makes no real friends because they don't trust anyone. That's just silly.

I made hundreds of friends whilst backpacking because we decided to trust each other. That's something you old guys who didn't ever do it, won't understand.

If you could see my Contacts list, you might understand. When you trust, you find a whole other world.

 

 

I'm an old man who's probably had twice as many girlfriends than you, so don't assume. I didn't intend to use any of them, as I was always looking for a girlfriend. Things usually don't work out between dating people because of different future plans, so people go their own ways. I have hundreds of friends, yet can really only look to a few if I really needed help. This is how most people are. I have friends from 1965 I still do things with now, and many more I talk to that live elsewhere. I met them and immediately became friends, so don't assume I;m saying you can't make friends immediately. Trusting people, unless you're very naive, takes time, as many are out for no good, and this takes time. Read what I write and understand it better. Don't assume that you know people from a few typed words. Thinking you really know all these "contacts" you have means nothing. Anyone can add new "friends" online and think they know them. You don't. Old men usually have a lot of old friends, and you thinking otherwise is very young thinking. You made hundreds of new acquaintances backpacking. You can call them friends if you like, just as someone who has 12,876 "friends" on Facebook does. Remember, don''t assume, because like all these friends you have, you really only know a few well.

[fredwiggy]

9 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

From 1 night stands 

From 1, 2, 3 or more night stands. A woman can get pregnant the first time she has sex. As an expat of a certain age, I'm thinking you should know this.

[SMIAI]

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Actually it's you that's assuming. Yes, you met loads of trusting girls, as we all have, and a lot of them became victims of violence from partners, although you don't know this because you don't keep in touch with those loads of girls. If you in fact keep in touch with 5 I'd be very surprised, although you might exaggerate to try and get your point across. it doesn't work here.  I have no fear of anything. I don't assume though many here do. You obviously have no idea how many women and girls live a sad, fearful life because of boys taking advantage of them.

 

Allow me to offer you these definitions.

 

Reality: Things that actually happened. I met girls who trusted me and we formed amazing relationships. 

 

Your imagination/assumptions: Things that you read about that happened to other people and subsequently have affected the way that you think. "Trust no one"

 

The rest of your post seems just more of your rampantly negative mind process.

 

From here it appears that it is you who is assuming, whereas I live my life with those trusting girls.

It's why some of us can strike up new relationships at any time, whereas other are locked into not trusting anyone and terribly lonely.

It's clear in which world you are in, simply from your action of doubting me.

 

You will convince yourself that you are right, in order to stay in your safe "trust no one" mode.

 

[SMIAI]

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I'm an old man who's probably had twice as many girlfriends than you, so don't assume.

 

Do you see any irony in that statement?

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 2/21/2025 at 8:08 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

adding a few tips

Steer clear of tourists, actually all foreigners......most these days are dodgy Scammers or miserable moaning bastards 

 

[fredwiggy]

4 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

 

Allow me to offer you these definitions.

 

Reality: Things that actually happened. I met girls who trusted me and we formed amazing relationships. 

 

Your imagination/assumptions: Things that you read about that happened to other people and subsequently have affected the way that you think. "Trust no one"

 

The rest of your post seems just more of your rampantly negative mind process.

 

From here it appears that it is you who is assuming, whereas I live my life with those trusting girls.

It's why some of us can strike up new relationships at any time, whereas other are locked into not trusting anyone and terribly lonely.

It's clear in which world you are in, simply from your action of doubting me.

 

You will convince yourself that you are right, in order to stay in your safe "trust no one" mode.

 

Thinking I don't understand reality is assuming, which some here, like you, do often. Think for a minute before you reply. When I said don't trust anyone, I was of course referring to the OP's asking of others advice so he could relate that advice to 2- 19 year old girls that were thinking of coming to Thailand. It is sound advice for girls by themselves not to trust anyone when they go to another country as there are many girls that become victims every year of trafficking, rape and murder because they trusted someone. 

 

That you don't understand this and call me an old man shows that you're likely in your 20's still or hasn't the sense they should have at a later age. You don't live your life with any girls you knew before. You might talk to a few from your past that are still friends with you, as I do myself. No different than millions of other people, especially if they've reached their 60's and above. 

 

I repeat. I didn't say for everyone not to trust anyone. Trust takes as much time as you allow it to happen, and the longer you know someone, the more you can likely trust them,  although people like Ted Bundy had many friends who thought they knew him. I said those 2 girls that are coming here should not trust anyone. That will keep them a lot safer than if they did. You obviously don't understand psychology and why people do what they do, as you assume you know my life from a few typed words. Try reading and comprehending before you reply,as you missed my point right off.

[fredwiggy]

14 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

 

Do you see any irony in that statement?

No, but I think you missed all of what I wrote and just skimmed before you replied.

[SMIAI]

8 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Steer clear of tourists, actually all foreigners......most these days are dodgy Scammers or miserable moaning bastards 

 

 

To be fair, backpackers have a good time with both tourists and locals. I did. Met some people were were/are very nice with me. 

For people like me who want to have a good life full of good experiences, they way to do that is to create them.

That cannot work if no one trusts each other.

That's part of the backpacking experience. To develop those life skills. Those who didn't do it, wouldn't know.

[SMIAI]

Just now, fredwiggy said:

No, but I think you missed all of what I wrote and just skimmed before you replied.

 

You are correct. I did not read beyond that first line. I hope that you understand why that was so.

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

 

You are correct. I did not read beyond that first line. I hope that you understand why that was so.

If you're who I think you are, with a number of alter egos, I fully understand. If you're not him, then you think a lot alike, because your replies are much the same. You might want to read up on how human traffickers work, along with predators like those that went after these 2...........https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koh_Tao_murders

[spidermike007]

The most important tip to remember is that Thailand is not a foreign country, it is a distant planet! This way when you're searching for signs of common sense and reason you will be able to refer back to this point of view. 

[pub2022]

I always wonder what these young people do in life? Don't they study or work?

[SMIAI]

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

If you're who I think you are, with a number of alter egos, I fully understand. If you're not him, then you think a lot alike, because your replies are much the same. You might want to read up on how human traffickers work, along with predators like those that went after these 2...........https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koh_Tao_murders

 

Your posting style has taken a particularly nasty turn.

 

I'm writing about the positive aspects of making new friends whilst travelling, against your increasingly shrill protestations of "trust no one" and "extreme violence".

 

It seems that you want to insist that your version of the world is the only valid one.

Yet millions of young travellers get to meet each other without getting into trouble. 

Trusting doesn't have to mean giving in to wild abandon. It might simply mean getting to understand the way different people think, developing your skills for life.

But in your imagination...we can see what goes on there. 

 

How else are you going to find the good people amongst you? "Trust no one" is just a starting point. Without trust, what do you have?

[fredwiggy]

11 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

 

Your posting style has taken a particularly nasty turn.

 

I'm writing about the positive aspects of making new friends whilst travelling, against your increasingly shrill protestations of "trust no one" and "extreme violence".

 

It seems that you want to insist that your version of the world is the only valid one.

Yet millions of young travellers get to meet each other without getting into trouble. 

Trusting doesn't have to mean giving in to wild abandon. It might simply mean getting to understand the way different people think, developing your skills for life.

But in your imagination...we can see what goes on there. 

 

How else are you going to find the good people amongst you? "Trust no one" is just a starting point. Without trust, what do you have?

If you actually read what I wrote, again, you might take a few minutes to understand I'm giving advice to the OP's friends so they'll have a safer trip when they come to Thailand. it doesn't mean you aren't friendly. It doesn't mean you can't make friends. It doesn't mean you can't have a great time with new people you meet. It means you don't let your guard down for an instant, as that is how predators work. That you don't understand this is unbelievable if you're over 25 years old. 

 

My posting style hasn't changed in all of my life. I aim to help others that need good advice to protect themselves, whether it be taking a holiday to a foreign country, using correct techniques in weight training, following a healthy lifestyle, taking measures to help with depression, or anything else I have experience in. You keep coming on here trolling me and a few others, using a number of aliases, thinking we don't spot you right off. You reply the same ways all the time, arguing just because someone corrected you earlier. Then you put on the innocent act, saying "we" can see what goes on there. Yes, we here can see what you're all about, and you actually think we can't.

 

Again, I did not say trust no one. I said for the OP to tell these 2 girls, to trust no one when they come here. That will keep them safer, as victims are the people who trust others they don't know. Try researching how human traffickers and rapists work before you reply, because you're not too swift on what goes on in this world, although you've backpacked all over and have so many contacts from over the world. If you trusted all these so called contacts, and act this way, how they remain friends is beyond me, and I'm sure many others here.

[Sierra Tango]

One More Farang, I guess that you didn't really expect anyone here to refer you to a good website for tips (as initially requested) to keep these young ladies safe in their travels around the LoS...and further to my assumptions, you would have no doubt expected the normal barrage of asinine comments and derogatory references to the young ladies expected fate in Thailand. 

You being a life long poster, what were you thinking? If the intended result was to create bickering, done, if it was to draw the usual village idiots into a completely banal war of words then SMIAI and fredwiigy have delivered your dream.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, SMIAI said:

I made hundreds of friends whilst backpacking

Or maybe you just don't know the meaning of the word "friend".

Nobody has hundreds of friends because nobody has time for hundreds of friends.

[fredwiggy]

34 minutes ago, Sierra Tango said:

One More Farang, I guess that you didn't really expect anyone here to refer you to a good website for tips (as initially requested) to keep these young ladies safe in their travels around the LoS...and further to my assumptions, you would have no doubt expected the normal barrage of asinine comments and derogatory references to the young ladies expected fate in Thailand. 

You being a life long poster, what were you thinking? If the intended result was to create bickering, done, if it was to draw the usual village idiots into a completely banal war of wards then SMIAI and fredwiigy have delivered your dream.

Helping out these 2 girls with advice to stay safe isn't coming from village idiots but parents who actually care about other's children and want to see them safe.

[fredwiggy]

4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Or maybe you just don't know the meaning of the word "friend".

Nobody has hundreds of friends because nobody has time for hundreds of friends.

ac·quaint·ance

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  a person one knows slightly, but who is not a close friend.

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[SMIAI]

1 minute ago, Sierra Tango said:

One More Farang, I guess that you didn't really expect anyone here to refer you to a good website for tips (as initially requested) to keep these young ladies safe in their travels around the LoS...and further to my assumptions, you would have no doubt expected the normal barrage of asinine comments and derogatory references to the young ladies expected fate in Thailand. 

You being a life long poster, what were you thinking? If the intended result was to create bickering, done, if it was to draw the usual village idiots into a completely banal war of wards then SMIAI and fredwiigy have delivered your dream.

 

I got involved by recounting my experience as a first time tourist.  It didn't feel like a hotbed of danger. People were in general very nice with each other. 

[SMIAI]

7 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Or maybe you just don't know the meaning of the word "friend".

Nobody has hundreds of friends because nobody has time for hundreds of friends.

 

When you are young, you have time 😊

[OneMoreFarang]

5 minutes ago, Sierra Tango said:

One More Farang, I guess that you didn't really expect anyone here to refer you to a good website for tips (as initially requested) to keep these young ladies safe in their travels around the LoS...and further to my assumptions, you would have no doubt expected the normal barrage of asinine comments and derogatory references to the young ladies expected fate in Thailand. 

You being a life long poster, what were you thinking? If the intended result was to create bickering, done, if it was to draw the usual village idiots into a completely banal war of wards then SMIAI and fredwiigy have delivered your dream.

 

I read a couple of good replies.

Obviously, it was expected that the quality of the replies didn't get better over time.

I decided right from the beginning that it won't be a good idea to share this thread with the girls or their father... 

[SMIAI]

8 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Or maybe you just don't know the meaning of the word "friend".

Nobody has hundreds of friends because nobody has time for hundreds of friends.

 

Acquaintance is fair.

The point being positive interactions, rather than extreme fear.

[Sierra Tango]

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Helping out these 2 girls with advice to stay safe isn't coming from village idiots but parents who actually care about other's children and want to see them safe. You sure take that award for your comment though.

I agree fredwiggy, about keeping the girls safe. All I am saying is that you and SMIAI typing a thousand words a minute attacking each other's character and beliefs is not what the original post was about.

[Sierra Tango]

5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I read a couple of good replies.

Obviously, it was expected that the quality of the replies didn't get better over time.

I decided right from the beginning that it won't be a good idea to share this thread with the girls or their father... 

There were a couple of good ones.... potentially some more relevant to the subject, yet to come.