Factcheck Trump Ukraine claim

[simple1]

e.g. “Zelenskyy talked the United States of America into spending $350 Billion Dollars, to go into a War that couldn’t be won. … The United States has spent $200 Billion Dollars more than Europe.”

 

Trump’s numbers, as usual, are wrong. The United States has appropriated just over $174 billion, the Congressional Research Service said in a report issued last month. The Kiel Institute for the World Economy, which tracks support for Ukraine, says the United States and the European Union have provided roughly the same amount of military aid, while the Europeans have provided far more nonmilitary aid than the United States — $73 billion versus $52 billion.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/02/trumps-false-and-misleading-ukraine-claims/

[impulse]

DOGE is revealing that the US contribution far exceeds the reported advertised direct support. 

 

That's in all kinds of programs, including Ukraine, NATO, immigration costs, free stuff for lazy people, DEI around the world, and a lot of other programs where the lefties wish the level of spending would stay under cover.

 

I'd add that most fact checking sites are as suspect (or even more so) than the information they're claiming to check.

 

[stevenl]

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

DOGE is revealing that the US contribution far exceeds the reported advertised direct support. 

 

That's in all kinds of programs, including Ukraine, NATO, immigration costs, free stuff for lazy people, DEI around the world, and a lot of other programs where the lefties wish the level of spending would stay under cover.

 

Doge is revealing nothing. Doge is making nany unsubstantiated claims.

[impulse]

12 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Doge is revealing nothing. Doge is making nany unsubstantiated claims.

 

If that was the case, why would so many entrenched entities be trying to block their access to the accounting systems?

 

[simple1]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

DOGE is revealing that the US contribution far exceeds the reported advertised direct support. 

 

That's in all kinds of programs, including Ukraine, NATO, immigration costs, free stuff for lazy people, DEI around the world, and a lot of other programs where the lefties wish the level of spending would stay under cover.

 

I'd add that most fact checking sites are as suspect (or even more so) than the information they're claiming to check.

 

 

So you are claiming Congressional Research Service and the Kiel Institute (one of top think tanks in the world) are  misinformation organisations without any proof whatsoever, plus the usual MAGA deflection stuff. Really good idea to back up your claims with facts otherwise just the usual MAGA drivel.

[simple1]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

If that was the case, why would so many entrenched entities be trying to block their access to the accounting systems?

 

 

What immediately comes to mind is manipulation of data for propaganda purposes and breach of privacy / security protocols. How many of the Musk staff have relevant security clearance? trump is now saying Musk doesn't have decision making authority so who is making the decisions

 

Musk is just an adviser with no power to make decisions, White House claims

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/18/turmp-elon-musk-doge

[3NUMBAS]

The money spent on us weapons keeping their factory’s busy and testing new weapons on the battlefield ,many given to Ukraine are old stock due to be disarmed ,sidewinders are at the end of their life and can’t be renewed due to obsolete components ,and have to be redesigned