Marco Rubio Demands Apology from Zelensky After Heated Oval Office Clash

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You do know how to switch the TV on and navigate to the news?

 

Ah! The news! No wonder you are so well informed. 

[Cameroni]

3 hours ago, Walker88 said:

All those in favor of nuclear proliferation scream "MAGA forever!"

 

The US spent 80 years trying to limit the spread of weapons of mass destruction, beginning when the "worst" a nuke could do was vaporize a medium size city. Thanks to Edward Teller, those early nukes are firecrackers. The technology exists today that a deliverable nuke could have a blast radius and radioactive kill zone with a diameter of 1000 miles. The Tsar Bomba, which was purposely toned down so that the aircraft dropping it could escape, had a relatively small blast radius compared to what is possible today, and even that sent a mushroom cloud 60 km high. Can you MAGAs say "nuclear winter"?

 

The nuclear club is on the verge of a major expansion, and why not. The non-nuke members of Europe have every incentive to develop and deploy their own nukes, and that includes even small nations like Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Right now guaranteed Germany, the Netherlands, Finland, Sweden, Denmark and Norway are thinking about building nukes.

 

Japan has every reason---as well as current capability---to build nukes. South Korea can see how quickly an ally can be betrayed in favor of a real dictator, so absolutely South Korea has very good reason to build its own nukes.

 

The more nukes their are in more hands, the greater the likelihood they get used. When one gets used, a second follows....then a third....then....kiss your backside goodbye, if not from the blast or radiation, then from nuclear winter.

 

This, among other terrible things, is what MAGA has brought us. The President accused Zelenskyy of trying to start WWIII. Some day aliens will visit the burned out planet we call Earth, and find it was the US President who brought about the extinction of the human species. AN asteroid took out the dinosaurs. Almost laughably, a Game Show Host is going to take out homo sapiens.

 

Frankly, if we kill ourselves and leave the world to cockroaches, I think that is acceptable to having even a single MAGA still wasting air. Kill'em all and let Zeus sort them out.

 

So you've graduated from posting AI generated fantasies of little Volodymyr going Rocky in the oval office to offer your prediction that Germany will get nuclear weapons. And Netherlands and Denmark. OK genius, let me clue you in on something:

 

1) Zelensky is a little man whose body language showed he was cowed like a serf in rural Ukraine in the White house, he'd no more lead an army to victory than go on a successful political mission in the Oval office. He's a total failure on every front.

 

2) The only risk of nuclear war is the one which the Democrats and the British have unleashed on the world by filling Volodymyr's head with fantasies of never ending Western support, military and financial, and thus encouraging him to go to war, rather than negotiate as he could have done, but was persuaded not to do by Boris Johnson. Kamala Harris and Biden.

 

So the people who increased the risk of nuclear war were the leftists, Democrats and the windbag Boris Johson. 

 

Thankfully, the wise and measured hands of Donald Trump reign in the Oval Office  and this great man is now diffusing the real risk of nuclear war which the Democrats and BJ have created. You should thank Trump for making your world a safer place instead of posting violent AI fantasies that never happened or making predictions that will never happen. Because I can tell you now, before Germany gets nuclear weapons a lot of water will flow under the Nawarat Bridge.

[bamnutsak]

Trump tamed Lil Marco in 2016.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p_ltuXcOH4

 

[brewsterbudgen]

Briiliant

 

 

[impulse]

It appears that a group of senators met with Zelensky and pumped him up for his meeting with Trump.  How irresponsible is that?  It certainly didn't go well for Ukrainians that want to quit dying sooner, rather than in a few more years.

 

 

Group of RINOs and Democrat Senators Met with Zelensky and Blew Smoke Up His A$ Before He Met with Trump – Vigilant News Network

[IsaanT]

On 3/1/2025 at 10:57 AM, novacova said:

 

Zelenskyy proved himself an incapable failure whose in way over his head, a total amateur hour clown show he put on.

Au contraire...  There is increasing credible information to suggest that Trump and Putin are closer than the western world would like, given Putin's proclivities for terminating any opposition.  We don't know exactly what Putin has on Trump, but Trump is doing his usual distortion of the truth to help his own arguments in Russia's favour ('Ukraine started it', 'Zelenskyy's support is very low', 'He's a dictator', etc.).

Zelenskyy is treading on a fine line when dealing with Trump but he acted responsibily for his country under extreme duress and the western world is supporting him.  That's not a coincidence.
 

[Cameroni]

7 minutes ago, IsaanT said:

Au contraire...  There is increasing credible information to suggest that Trump and Putin are closer than the western world would like, given Putin's proclivities for terminating any opposition.  We don't know exactly what Putin has on Trump, but Trump is doing his usual distortion of the truth to help his own arguments in Russia's favour ('Ukraine started it', 'Zelenskyy's support is very low', 'He's a dictator', etc.).

Zelenskyy is treading on a fine line when dealing with Trump but he acted responsibily for his country under extreme duress and the western world is supporting him.  That's not a coincidence.
 

 

WRONG. 

 

Zelensky failed to get the security guarantees he wanted. He only succeeded in annoying everyone. Trump is now considering ending all military aid to Ukraine.

 

Total failure. Not to mention he's losing the war.

 

As for your theory that Donald Trump is a Russian security asset or Putin has a secret dossier on Trump, one marvels at the edge of reason some people can tippy-toe to. Keep dancing, bro.

[Harrisfan]

14 minutes ago, IsaanT said:

Au contraire...  There is increasing credible information to suggest that Trump and Putin are closer than the western world would like, given Putin's proclivities for terminating any opposition.  We don't know exactly what Putin has on Trump, but Trump is doing his usual distortion of the truth to help his own arguments in Russia's favour ('Ukraine started it', 'Zelenskyy's support is very low', 'He's a dictator', etc.).

Zelenskyy is treading on a fine line when dealing with Trump but he acted responsibily for his country under extreme duress and the western world is supporting him.  That's not a coincidence.
 

Still making crap up. You lost. Get over it. Like Chinese whispers with you guys. Z stuffed up and now begging to come back.

[Yellowtail]

On 3/2/2025 at 8:03 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump wants what Putin wants.

 

 

We’ll see in the coming weeks how this plays with the American public

 

 

Again, what does Putin want? 

[transam]

46 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

WRONG. 

 

Zelensky failed to get the security guarantees he wanted. He only succeeded in annoying everyone. Trump is now considering ending all military aid to Ukraine.

 

Total failure. Not to mention he's losing the war.

 

As for your theory that Donald Trump is a Russian security asset or Putin has a secret dossier on Trump, one marvels at the edge of reason some people can tippy-toe to. Keep dancing, bro.

"The Voice of Putin"......................😂

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, transam said:

"The Voice of Putin"......................😂

Uh oh, "The Voice of Starmer"......................😂

[transam]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Uh oh, "The Voice of Starmer"......................😂

Aaaaah, the liar is back..........

[SMIAI]

17 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Again, what does Putin want? 

 

He wants to keep the territory he has taken and he wants a Russia friendly government next door, amongst other things.

Trump, as a Russia friendly president claims his Ukrainian minerals prize and promises to keep those Ukrainians in check.

 

The Europeans want a lasting peace, not Trump and Putin's ceasefire trap. 

 

[scorecard]

On 3/1/2025 at 10:30 AM, Tug said:

Zelenskyy apologize for what?he did nothing wrong it’s trump and Vance that should be apologizing just wow as an American I feel deep shame for what happened it’s the Ukrainians that are dying defending their sovereignty….and Vance wants that PRESIDENT to grovel????the fact of the matter is in my opinion is they were trying to roll the Ukrainian nation…just disgusting 🤢 history is going to be very very unkind to those 2 and if Rubio had any shred of integrity he would resign and refuse to work for this president.

 

By usual well known protocols vance should NOT have been in the room and most certainly should NOT have joined the conversation.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

By usual well known protocols vance should NOT have been in the room and most certainly should NOT have joined the conversation.

Yep, the puppet is a Muppet...

[Chomper Higgot]

23 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Again, what does Putin want? 

He wants the return of Russian imperialism and the end of Ukraine as an independent state.
 

He wants the dismantling of NATO and the dissolution of the EU.

 

All the stuff that you shill on.

 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

He wants the return of Russian imperialism and the end of Ukraine as an independent state.
 

He wants the dismantling of NATO and the dissolution of the EU.

 

All the stuff that you shill on.

 

 

 

I've never "shilled" on any of that. 

 

Why is the left always dependent on making stuff up?

[Yellowtail]

13 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

 

He wants to keep the territory he has taken and he wants a Russia friendly government next door, amongst other things.

Trump, as a Russia friendly president claims his Ukrainian minerals prize and promises to keep those Ukrainians in check.

 

The Europeans want a lasting peace, not Trump and Putin's ceasefire trap. 

 

You mean he wants to keep the territory Obama gave he? 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I've never "shilled" on any of that. 

 

Why is the left always dependent on making stuff up?

You're from the left then...........?  

[rough diamond]

33 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Again, what does Putin want? 

The ex USSR borders and dominance!

[Yellowtail]

14 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

By usual well known protocols vance should NOT have been in the room and most certainly should NOT have joined the conversation.

Was Zelensky threatening the President Trump part of "well known protocols"? 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Was Zelensky threatening the President Trump part of "well known protocols"? 

He was dealing with a felon, I thought we all knew that..............😏

[Flyguy330]

16 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   They opposed Communism rather than opposed Russia .

Russia isn't Communist anymore , so no need to oppose them anymore 

 

Hey man, the Soviet Union fell apart in 1989. That was 35 years ago. But the US continued to blackguard the new Russian Federation just like nothing had changed. 

So you gave a bull crap answer.

I ask again - why has Russia suddenly become the 'friend' of hardline MAGA supporters? What happened to change their attitude so much that they now SUPPORT Russian aggression? I'm waiting - all ears.....

[SMIAI]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

WRONG. 

 

Zelensky failed to get the security guarantees he wanted. He only succeeded in annoying everyone. Trump is now considering ending all military aid to Ukraine.

 

Total failure. Not to mention he's losing the war.

 

As for your theory that Donald Trump is a Russian security asset or Putin has a secret dossier on Trump, one marvels at the edge of reason some people can tippy-toe to. Keep dancing, bro.

 

He didn't fail to get them due to the failed press conference. Trump has no plan to offer such a thing and so lost it in public as Zelenskky brought it up in front of the world. He made Trump confess to pressuring him to sign away the country's mineral rights before securing a lasting peace.

That's not a peace deal, that's extortion. The Trump administration tried try to spin it against Zelenskky. It hasn't worked. They just have a few silly Trolls posting nonsense on forums trying to convince normal people otherwise.

 

Don't get me wrong. I have an understanding of the perspective of all sides(or at least the publicly discussed participants), so for me it's not as simplistic as Russia bad, West good.

 

But certain Trolls lack the ability to conduct nuanced discussions. It's all Trumpian in trying to bludgeon you with their abuse and baiting style of posting.

 

What is not in question is the extortion attempt and the deliberate actions by Trump, the Russia friendly president, to hobble Ukraine, by withholding aid and allowing Russia to take more ground.

They sell it to the American people as their tax dollars being wasted, but it's all really just part of a plot. A plan.

Weaken Ukraine to force them to capitulate.

 

 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Flyguy330 said:

 

Hey man, the Soviet Union fell apart in 1989. That was 35 years ago. But the US continued to blackguard the new Russian Federation just like nothing had changed. 

So you gave a bull crap answer.

I ask again - why has Russia suddenly become the 'friend' of hardline MAGA supporters? What happened to change their attitude so much that they now SUPPORT Russian aggression? I'm waiting - all ears.....

Me too.....🤗

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Was Zelensky threatening the President Trump part of "well known protocols"? 

Making stuff up?!

[SMIAI]

9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Was Zelensky threatening the President Trump part of "well known protocols"? 

 

Perhaps you can explain this to us by using his exact words. 

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Making stuff up?!

No, I guess RawStory cut that part out. 

 

The left lies by omission as much as commission. 

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

No, I guess RawStory cut that part out. 

 

The left lies by omission as much as commission. 

Is that the rightwing  modern equivalent of ‘the dog ate my homework’?

 

[transam]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

No, I guess RawStory cut that part out. 

 

The left lies by omission as much as commission. 

You're from the left then....? 🤥