US Halts Military Aid to Ukraine Amid Push for Peace Talks

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

 

You've gone back into ranting mode again. Trump haters etc The hate comes from you. That's why you are ranting and becoming emotional.

For me, it's not personal. For you, you it seems as if you are defending your boyfriend.

We are simply discussing our perceptions of the world. If you are actually hating someone, that's a problem isn't it?

I replied to your questions. No point in ranting at me further. It's my opinion. There's no being perfectly right. We might be right on some things and wrong on others, simply because we don't see the big picture. But we have the luxury of being able to discuss them to the best of our ability without being the ones to make decisions that affect so many lives.

That would be far more interesting than the awful abuse that takes place here. Such an unpleasant environment 😊 Just throwing 💩 at each other all day. The real planet of the apes.

That's what I thought. Go with God brother. 

[rough diamond]

20 minutes ago, transam said:

Stupid question, and the rest of that diatribe is based on schoolboy wording.......🙄

Do you mean primary school wording or kindergarten?

[James105]

46 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

 

In a world where resources matter, it's not just about 'some lines'.

 

So if Russia decided to take your country over, you would just smile meekly and carry on as normal?

It must be quite comfortable in that armchair of yours.

 

If they marched on Kiev and succeeded, where do you think those lines would have been drawn?

 

 

Of course, the whole thing was about money laundering. Now why didn't I think of that?

Can you explain it to me?

 

 

My country is part of NATO so there is no possibility of that happening.  So whenever a bigger country invades a smaller country its the job of the lucky west to keep funding the smaller country to ensure they last as long as possible and their "lucky" frontline soldiers who are the recipients of the weapons from this funding get to die for as long as possible?  For what?  Until when?  They run out of soldiers?  Then what?  Send western soldiers to do the same?  

 

As I understood Russia want the ethnically Russian parts of Ukraine in the east.  Is their stated goal Kiev and full takeover of Ukraine, regime change and onwards to the west, perhaps even the US of A?  It's entirely possible I missed that part if so, but I presume this is the imagined Putin goal of the armchair warmongers who wish to see this war continue.   

[Lacessit]

5 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

My country is part of NATO so there is no possibility of that happening.  So whenever a bigger country invades a smaller country its the job of the lucky west to keep funding the smaller country to ensure they last as long as possible and their "lucky" frontline soldiers who are the recipients of the weapons from this funding get to die for as long as possible?  For what?  Until when?  They run out of soldiers?  Then what?  Send western soldiers to do the same?  

 

As I understood Russia want the ethnically Russian parts of Ukraine in the east.  Is their stated goal Kiev and full takeover of Ukraine, regime change and onwards to the west, perhaps even the US of A?  It's entirely possible I missed that part if so, but I presume this is the imagined Putin goal of the armchair warmongers who wish to see this war continue.   

The eastern parts of Ukraine are not ethnically Russian. That is a Russian lie.

 

During the Holodomor, Stalin killed off about 6 million Ukrainians by famine in the region, which coincidentally is chernozem, the richest agricultural soil on the planet. He then migrated Russians there.

 

Ukraine is fighting a war with one hand tied behind its back. Give it complete air cover, and the ability to use interdicted missiles to strike Moscow, and the Russian army would probably crumble without any NATO boots on the ground. Kyiv gets hit every day with similar missiles.

 

Of course, Trump is busy tying Zelensky's second arm behind his back. The country most vocal about freedom allying itself with a dictator.

 

I would love to know what Putin has on Trump, it must be quite damning.

 

 

[simple1]

3 hours ago, James105 said:

 

Are countries that had a coup as recently as 2014 to overthrow a president considered "Democratic" now?  Since 2014 -2022 there has been a civil war on the eastern part of Ukraine resulting in 14,000 deaths before Russia got involved.   Did anybody care then?  Nope.  Before Russia got involved people were being killed.  After Russia got involved people were being killed.   The only involvement the west should have had is to sit down at a table with both sides, maybe bang some heads together and settle it with some kind of monitored democratic vote on this by the people who live in the contested areas.   

 

There was a prior treaty of friendship signed in1997 between Russia and Ukraine which was broken by the Russian insurgency war commencing 2014. Russia was heavily involved with the killings in Donbas region and of course annexing Crimea. In other words Russia has been busy upsetting the apple cart in Ukraine for a number of years. As I understand Russia had no true intent to "make peace', but to force compliance to their terms for a considerable period of time prior to the outbreak of open warfare. You may recall the West has thought Russia would conquer Ukraine with the capture of Kyiv within a week, but Russia totally screwed up.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian–Ukrainian_Friendship_Treaty#:~:text=The Treaty on Friendship%2C Cooperation,existing borders%2C and respect for

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

The eastern parts of Ukraine are not ethnically Russian. That is a Russian lie.

 

During the Holodomor, Stalin killed off about 6 million Ukrainians by famine in the region, which coincidentally is chernozem, the richest agricultural soil on the planet. He then migrated Russians there.

 

Ukraine is fighting a war with one hand tied behind its back. Give it complete air cover, and the ability to use interdicted missiles to strike Moscow, and the Russian army would probably crumble without any NATO boots on the ground. Kyiv gets hit every day with similar missiles.

 

Of course, Trump is busy tying Zelensky's second arm behind his back. The country most vocal about freedom allying itself with a dictator.

 

I would love to know what Putin has on Trump, it must be quite damning.

 

 

Every intelligence/law enforcement agency and media outlet in the US has been investigating Trump for nine years. I would rather know what the anti-Trumpers have on Zelensky.