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32 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

He doesn’t, he just needs to obey the law.

 

He is obeying the law!

X is a U.S.-based company, so its primary legal obligations stem from American law. The Stored Communications Act (SCA) governs how U.S. tech companies handle government requests for user data. Under the SCA (18 U.S.C. § 2703), X must comply with U.S. court orders, warrants, or subpoenas for user data—but only if properly issued by U.S. authorities. Foreign governments, like the UK, can’t directly compel X to turn over data stored in the U.S. without going through a mutual legal assistance treaty (MLAT) process.

The U.S.-UK MLAT, streamlined by the 2019 CLOUD Act Agreement, allows UK authorities to request data from U.S. companies like X for serious crimes (e.g., terrorism, child exploitation) without routing through the U.S. Department of Justice, as long as the request meets strict criteria:

It must target a specific individual or account.

It must relate to a criminal investigation, not civil or administrative matters.

It must respect U.S. free speech protections (e.g., not criminalizing speech protected under the First Amendment).

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Posted
15 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

Yes in the US it would be practically unheard to do such thing, they have the First Amendment, the UK sadly does not!

It’s not a ‘first amendment’/ freedom of speech issue.

 

It’s a matter of a business complying with the law by providing the details of accounts on its servers.

 

If there is a freedom of speech issue that is a matter for litigation by the individuals who believe their freedom of speech is being denied.

 

Musk’s duty is obey the law.

 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

He is obeying the law!

X is a U.S.-based company, so its primary legal obligations stem from American law. The Stored Communications Act (SCA) governs how U.S. tech companies handle government requests for user data. Under the SCA (18 U.S.C. § 2703), X must comply with U.S. court orders, warrants, or subpoenas for user data—but only if properly issued by U.S. authorities. Foreign governments, like the UK, can’t directly compel X to turn over data stored in the U.S. without going through a mutual legal assistance treaty (MLAT) process.

The U.S.-UK MLAT, streamlined by the 2019 CLOUD Act Agreement, allows UK authorities to request data from U.S. companies like X for serious crimes (e.g., terrorism, child exploitation) without routing through the U.S. Department of Justice, as long as the request meets strict criteria:

It must target a specific individual or account.

It must relate to a criminal investigation, not civil or administrative matters.

It must respect U.S. free speech protections (e.g., not criminalizing speech protected under the First Amendment).

He’s conducting business in the UK therefore he is subject to UK law on that portion of the business he conducts in the UK.

 

The Clauses within the Acts you cite facilitate the requests of UK (and other jurisdiction) requests.

 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not a ‘first amendment’/ freedom of speech issue.

 

It’s a matter of a business complying with the law by providing the details of accounts on its servers.

 

If there is a freedom of speech issue that is a matter for litigation by the individuals who believe their freedom of speech is being denied.

 

Musk’s duty is obey the law.

 

 

 

You like fascist laws then.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Purdey said:

No one thinks it weird that Musk is diving into people's records in the USA while telling others they shouldn't do that? 

Don't use X or Meta.

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Posted
2 hours ago, hotsun said:

The left can try to silence dissent, Elons got their back though. All non socialist british people are welcome in the US, you can criticize our government all you want

Hasn't X shared info with ICE in the usa?

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Posted
Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

You perhaps don’t know what Purdue was referring to.

 

Maybe not up to date with events and news from the U.S.

I don't watch the news.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not a ‘first amendment’/ freedom of speech issue.

 

It’s a matter of a business complying with the law by providing the details of accounts on its servers.

 

If there is a freedom of speech issue that is a matter for litigation by the individuals who believe their freedom of speech is being denied.

 

Musk’s duty is obey the law.

 

 

 

In the UK, laws like the Investigatory Powers Act 2016 let authorities demand data from companies within UK jurisdiction. But X has no significant legal presence there (its European HQ is in Ireland), so the UK can’t directly enforce this on X’s U.S. servers. Posts on X from March 7, 2025, claim X refused to hand over “hundreds of account details” after the Southport riots last summer, citing Musk’s criticism of the UK jailing people for social media posts. The UK might argue these posts incited violence (illegal under the Public Order Act 1986), but without MLAT compliance, they can’t force X to act.

Right now, there’s no public evidence the UK used MLAT properly for these specific requests. News from March 6, 2025, also shows Musk backing Apple against a UK “secret order” for cloud data, hinting he’d resist informal pressure too. Without a U.S. court order, he’s not legally forced to hand over anything—and he seems ready to fight if pushed.

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