Trump’s Bold Stand Against Campus Antisemitism Sends a Clear Message

[Yagoda]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Why is it that you just support the people fighting against the Jewish state ?

Because its full of Jews.

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Yes. They are trained form childhood to hate Jews. Its in their religion.

It goes both ways over there. They hate each other.

[CG1 Blue]

Why aren't students protesting about Hamas?

If Palestinians are being forcibly ruled by Hamas, and if Palestinians don't support Hamas, where is the outrage about that?

 

Unless of course the protestors are ok with Hamas and their human shield tactics, and Hamas' desire to wipe Israel off the map. 

[Yagoda]

Just now, MalcolmB said:

It goes both ways over there. They hate each other.

Show me any educational material that teaches Israeli children to hate Palestinians.

 

Another Jew hating lie from you.

[connda]

Trump’s Bold Stand Against Campus Antisemitism Sends a Clear Message

What - that the First Amendment is dead?

I may agree with the Trump administration on a number of their agendas, but urinating on the First Amendment of the Constitution to appease Israel isn't one of them.  Americans can espouse negative views about Israelis as the day is long, just like they can espouse negative views of Russians, Canadians, Chinese, French, South Americans and anyone else in this world.  It's Protected Speech under the First Amendment of The Constitution. So, the Trump administration's acts to chill the speech of those living in the US legally, citizens or legal aliens, won't hold up to legal challenges taken to the SCOTUS.  And if they do?  That just drove a stake through the heart of the Constitution and the US essentially becomes a totalitarian regime.  Israeli's are not sacrosanct. And at least in the United States of American that I grew up in - they can be criticized like any other nation or state.

[MalcolmB]

14 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Why aren't students protesting about Hamas?

If Palestinians are being forcibly ruled by Hamas, and if Palestinians don't support Hamas, where is the outrage about that?

 

Unless of course the protestors are ok with Hamas and their human shield tactics, and Hamas' desire to wipe Israel off the map. 

Might be because of the tens of thousands of women and children killed and injured? 
Might be because they have wrecked most houses, businesses etc.?

Or it might be because they have destroyed or nearly destroyed all the hospitals?

Maybe because they cut electricity and water supplies?

Or maybe because they have restricted food and medical supplies?

I think you would find that if Palestinians were doing this to Israel that the students would be protesting about that.

[rudi49jr]

25 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Why is it that your fervently support the Palestinian cause and don't support other similar causes ?

   Why is it that you support the Palestinians , but don't support the Rohingyas in Myanmar or the Marsh Arabs or the 5000 of groups of people who want independence ?

     Why is it that you just support the people fighting against the Jewish state ?

You should really stop jumping to conclusions. Who says I don’t support the Rohingya? Or that I don’t support other groups who want independence? Your ‘logic’ doesn’t make any sense.
 

[Yagoda]

5 minutes ago, connda said:

Trump’s Bold Stand Against Campus Antisemitism Sends a Clear Message

What - that the First Amendment is dead?

I may agree with the Trump administration on a number of their agendas, but urinating on the First Amendment of the Constitution to appease Israel isn't one of them.  Americans can espouse negative views about Israelis as the day is long, just like they can espouse negative views of Russians, Canadians, Chinese, French, South Americans and anyone else in this world.  It's Protected Speech under the First Amendment of The Constitution. So, the Trump administration's acts to chill the speech of those living in the US legally, citizens or legal aliens, won't hold up to legal challenges taken to the SCOTUS.  And if they do?  That just drove a stake through the heart of the Constitution and the US essentially becomes a totalitarian regime.  Israeli's are not sacrosanct. And at least in the United States of American that I grew up in - they can be criticized like any other nation or state.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/342/580/

You are wrong on the law.

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, connda said:

Trump’s Bold Stand Against Campus Antisemitism Sends a Clear Message

What - that the First Amendment is dead?

I may agree with the Trump administration on a number of their agendas, but urinating on the First Amendment of the Constitution to appease Israel isn't one of them.  Americans can espouse negative views about Israelis as the day is long, just like they can espouse negative views of Russians, Canadians, Chinese, French, South Americans and anyone else in this world.  It's Protected Speech under the First Amendment of The Constitution. So, the Trump administration's acts to chill the speech of those living in the US legally, citizens or legal aliens, won't hold up to legal challenges taken to the SCOTUS.  And if they do?  That just drove a stake through the heart of the Constitution and the US essentially becomes a totalitarian regime.  Israeli's are not sacrosanct. And at least in the United States of American that I grew up in - they can be criticized like any other nation or state.

 

   The first amendment doesn't mean you can say anything thing you like to anyone anywhere , You still need to abide by the rules and laws of the land 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, rudi49jr said:

You should really stop jumping to conclusions. Who says I don’t support the Rohingya? Or that I don’t support other groups who want independence? Your ‘logic’ doesn’t make any sense.
 

 

   OK, what other groups do you actively support ?

[rudi49jr]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   OK, what other groups do you actively support ?

I thought the topic of this thread was antisemitism, not what other groups I actively support. And by the way, it’s none of your freakin’ business who I do or do not support. 

[Yagoda]

5 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Please watch before commenting.

If you have something specific from an educational institution that proves your point show us. You cant.

 

PS, speaking as an American, I despise Gazans and so called Palestinians. They tortured one of our citizens, still hold another, and have cheered American deaths in the past. 

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, rudi49jr said:

I thought the topic of this thread was antisemitism, not what other groups I actively support. And by the way, it’s none of your freakin’ business who I do or do not support. 

 

   OK, I would have thought that you would have been delighted to give publicity to the other groups that you support and have an opportunity to publicise their cause .

   Is it because you ONLY give support to the Palestinians ?

      Maybe you could just refresh some posts in other threads where you have given support to other causes ?

[Nick Carter icp]

16 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Might be because of the tens of thousands of women and children killed and injured? 
Might be because they have wrecked most houses, businesses etc.?

Or it might be because they have destroyed or nearly destroyed all the hospitals?

Maybe because they cut electricity and water supplies?

Or maybe because they have restricted food and medical supplies?

I think you would find that if Palestinians were doing this to Israel that the students would be protesting about that.

 

   They would be out celebrating,  like they were on Oct 8 th 

[rudi49jr]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   OK, I would have thought that you would have been delighted to give publicity to the other groups that you support and have an opportunity to publicise their cause .

   Is it because you ONLY give support to the Palestinians ?

      Maybe you could just refresh some posts in other threads where you have given support to other causes ?

How old are you? Like, 12? 

[mogandave]

It is encouraging to see such a great percentage of Trump-haters are Hamas supporters. 

 

Unlike the EU, in the US one’s thoughts and speech are protected. But when speech and thoughts lead to action, the actions are not protected. 

 

You are free to speak in unrestricted areas, but you are not free to compel others to listen. 

 

 

[Evil Penevil]

26 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

I think you would find that if Palestinians were doing this to Israel that the students would be protesting about that.

 

The pro-Hamas, I mean pro-Palestinian, students did NOT protest when Hamas attacked unarmed Israeli civilians on Oct. 7, killing children and the elderly, burning houses,  raping women, etc.  On the contrary, many  pro-Palestinians praised or at least excused the attacks as "resistance.".

 

And as @Nick Carter icp noted, there are several conflicts in the world involving disputes over territory that have caused more death, destruction and displacement than the Gaza war.  Millions have died in Sudan and the Congo and tens of millions have been displaced, but the level of protest in the West is miniscule compared with anti-Israel protests.  When was the last time you heard of a protest against civil war  and the massacre of civilians in Sudan or elsewhere in Africa?

[riclag]

On 3/12/2025 at 5:01 AM, Bkk Brian said:

Wrong topic, nothing about AI in this OP, if you went to the right one and actually read it, you would also see your comments are nonsense.

Thats what I like about your comments!

To the point, direct and usually based in common sense .

[ifmu]

does anyone have a copy of this students speech ?  link me 

.... this is trump injecting his opinion into something .... i very much distrust trump and his opinions so i need to see that he is referring to in regards to the student only 

 

oh and whos name is on this post  ....?

[mogandave]

This is not a free speech issue. People can say and think what they like. But:

 

Hamas is an enemy of the US. Supporting them materially is illegal. 

 

Harassing other people is illegal. 

 

Barring students from classes is illegal.

 

Protesting and or “camping” in restricted areas is illegal. 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, connda said:

  Equating protests of Israeli polices doesn't meet the standards of being "hate crimes" or "discrimination," and although it may meet the definition of "antisemitism" as per the IHRA, it is not against US Federal Law.  

 

   The problem was foreign Muslim students (who were possibly funded by Qatar/Iran) were attacking /abusing American students , Jewish American Students .

    Foreigners carrying out anti semitic attacks on American citizens on campuses

[Evil Penevil]

10 minutes ago, ifmu said:

does anyone have a copy of this students speech ?  link me 

Mahmoud Khalil is not facing deportation because he gave a speech.  He was an active supporter of Hamas and his actions were a threat to Jewish students at Columbia.

 

Trump Is Right to Deport Hamas Supporters

Federal law authorizes denying or revoking the visa of anyone who supports terrorist activity.

https://www.city-journal.org/article/trump-deport-hamas-supporters-visa-law

[riclag]

Rubio   Sec of state said this has nothing to do  with freedom of speech but has everything to do with activities 

while in the country as a non citizen green card holder!

He reserves the right to revoke his green card. 
Who are we to argue with  that!It sounds based. 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rubio-revoking-columbia-agitator-mahmoud-khalils-green-card-not-about-free-speech

[connda]

8 minutes ago, riclag said:

Rubio   Sec of state said this has nothing to do  with freedom of speech but has everything to do with activities 

while in the country as a non citizen green card holder!

He reserves the right to revoke his green card. 

"Activities" meaning protesting, meaning exercising freedom of speech. Unless "activities"are breaking US law. If a foreigner isn't breaking a law, foreigners on green cards can protest anything and everything and still be protected just as are US citizens. It becomes a real slippery slope claiming that a foreign student's speech is "antisemitism" and then claim that is a crime and cause for the deportation of the student.  Because at this time, it is not a crime.

So again.

The First Amendment protects free speech for everyone physically present in the U.S., not just citizens and SCOTUS precedents supports this:
Bridges v. Wixon (1945) established that resident aliens enjoy First Amendment rights, stating that "freedom of speech and of press is accorded aliens residing in this country."

United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez (1990) clarified that constitutional protections, including the First Amendment, apply to non-citizens within U.S. borders, though the scope can differ based on context (e.g., immigration proceedings vs. criminal law).

 

This case will lead to a legal battle and my guess is that it will end up in front of the Supreme Court.

[riclag]

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

Rubio   Sec of state said this has nothing to do  with freedom of speech but has everything to do with activities 

while in the country as a non citizen green card holder!

He reserves the right to revoke his green card. 
Who are we to argue with  that!It sounds based. 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rubio-revoking-columbia-agitator-mahmoud-khalils-green-card-not-about-free-speech

Rubio explains sarcastically if you apply

for a visa and tell us that you might engage in anti American activities , the USA wouldn’t issue you a visa!

If you come to the Usa with a visa and and take on anti American activities your visa will be revoked!

Sounds good to me!

[mogandave]

It not only US law, but state and local laws as well. 

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

16 minutes ago, connda said:

You can spew your hatred in the US until you're blue in the face.  It's Protected Speech under the First Amendment - as long as it doesn't cross over into violence, discrimination, or harassment. 

Well, some will argue, "Jewish students will feel threatened."
 

 

   Jews were being discriminated against and abused by the rowdy mob protesting .

The  Jews weren't even Israeli or necessarily Zionist .

    They were being singled out and targeting because of their Religious beliefs 

[riclag]

6 minutes ago, connda said:

"Activities" meaning protesting, meaning exercising freedom of speech. Unless "activities"are breaking US law. If a foreign isn't breaking a law, foreigners on green cards can protest anything and everything and still be protected just as are US citizens. 

So again.

The First Amendment protects free speech for everyone physically present in the U.S., not just citizens and SCOTUS precedents supports this:
Bridges v. Wixon (1945) established that resident aliens enjoy First Amendment rights, stating that "freedom of speech and of press is accorded aliens residing in this country."

United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez (1990) clarified that constitutional protections, including the First Amendment, apply to non-citizens within U.S. borders, though the scope can differ based on context (e.g., immigration proceedings vs. criminal law).

 

This case will lead to a legal battle and my guess is that it will end up in front of the Supreme Court.

Read what Rubio describes as activities  !

[mogandave]

1 minute ago, riclag said:

Rubio explains sarcastically if you apply

for a visa and tell us that you might engage in anti American activities , the USA wouldn’t issue you a visa!

If you come to the Usa with a visa and and take on anti American activities your visa will be revoked!

Sounds good to me!

And if yiu lie on your visa and or green card application, you may be deported. 

 

And we know the Trump-obsessed hater support this, because remember they were calling endlessly for the Fist Lady to be deported..

[connda]

5 minutes ago, riclag said:

Rubio explains sarcastically if you apply

for a visa and tell us that you might engage in anti American activities , the USA wouldn’t issue you a visa!

I find it ironic that the, I ❤️ The US Constitution Trump administration, is now beginning to echo past attempts to limit First Amendment protections on Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Assembly, and Rubio is beginning to sound like Joseph McCarthy from the 1950s Red Scare era, who is now proposing Neo-McCarthism to root out "anti-American activities" and mean speech by foreigners.  What's next?  Root out "anti-American activities" and mean speech by US Citizens? 

It's a slippery slope that I'd advise the Constitution loving DJT to not proceed down. But it's a good question: Are MAGA supporters willing to dismantle the US Constitution for Israel?