Elon Musk Claims X Was Targeted in a ‘Massive Cyberattack’ from the ‘Ukraine Area’

[Chomper Higgot]

9 hours ago, pedro01 said:

 

OK - name the competitors he's redirecting Federal contracts away from? 

Enjoy:

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2025/03/13/elon-musk-hit-with-first-formal-conflict-of-interest-complaint-over-faa-starlink-deal/

[JimHuaHin]

Excuses excuses excuses.

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

That's definitely going to happen - the nature of these people is to fall out. Too many egos.

But hey, they will all love that because, you know, free speech and all that.

Twitter is a smouldering cauldron of hate, full of misinformation and lies and personal attacks. So when Musk does eventually use it to attack Trump in the same manner he has attacked everyone else (via lies and nonsense) the Trump supporters will be fully behind this free speech. I can't wait to see it.

What hate? Give some examples of hate you have encountered

[josephbloggs]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

What hate? Give some examples of hate you have encountered

Jeez, I am not going trawling through Twitter to find an example. If you believe there's no hate or lies on Twitter then that is up to you. I am sure your feed is only people discussing fluffy bunnies.

[frank83628]

29 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Jeez, I am not going trawling through Twitter to find an example. If you believe there's no hate or lies on Twitter then that is up to you. I am sure your feed is only people discussing fluffy bunnies.

So you don't have any examples. 

Just as I expected, 

If you have hate on your feed then you should be able to show what you saw. 

It would seem you are a liar

 

 

[josephbloggs]

16 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

So you don't have any examples. 

Just as I expected, 

If you have hate on your feed then you should be able to show what you saw. 

It would seem you are a liar

 

 

Fluffy bunnies.

[frank83628]

2 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Fluffy bunnies.

More chance of seeing them than you producing some hateful content from your feed

Do you remember when the BBC interviewer tried the same with Musk, he couldnt give 1 example. Same as you.

You're just quoting MSM Lefty buzz words

[josephbloggs]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

More chance of seeing them than you producing some hateful content from your feed

Do you remember when the BBC interviewer tried the same with Musk, he couldnt give 1 example. Same as you.

You're just quoting MSM Lefty buzz words

When I get home from work I will open Twitter and go and find some hate for you. 

I'm hardly making an outrageous claim. I don't think there is a public space anywhere without hate on it.........except in your imagination. 

[BexMan]

It would be pretty idiotic for Ukraine to be behind this as Musk would likely block their use of Starlink as a payback. More probable, in my view, it was a Russian based attack, trying to get the blame attributed to Ukraine.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, frank83628 said:

So you don't have any examples. 

Just as I expected, 

If you have hate on your feed then you should be able to show what you saw. 

It would seem you are a liar

 

 

So kids kill themselves because there is only love on social media?

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, frank83628 said:

More chance of seeing them than you producing some hateful content from your feed

Do you remember when the BBC interviewer tried the same with Musk, he couldnt give 1 example. Same as you.

You're just quoting MSM Lefty buzz words

Did you never see the fluffy bunny show on the BBC.? Great stuff- just lovable.

[frank83628]

21 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

When I get home from work I will open Twitter and go and find some hate for you. 

I'm hardly making an outrageous claim. I don't think there is a public space anywhere without hate on it.........except in your imagination. 

You said 'Twitter is a smouldering cauldron of hate' but you couldnt give an example, now your going to 'look' for some. 

basically X is no different to any social media. 

[frank83628]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

So kids kill themselves because there is only love on social media?

I'm not a kid, so I don't know, I have heard the term 'cyber bullying' but that's more personalised toward to an individual. JB said X was fill of hate, but couldn't give any examples.

Define hate

[pedro01]

On 3/14/2025 at 6:56 AM, sammieuk1 said:

Say's Pedro🤔

 

You must be a leftist.

 

Judging me based on your preception of my race. 

 

Nice.

 

Let me guess - you are a British sexpat that lives in the UK and dreams of living as an immigrant here in Thailand - or are you an British sexpat living in Thailand that doesn't have the intellect to figure out this makes you an immigrant?

 

Should we have a poll?

[pedro01]

On 3/14/2025 at 7:47 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Enjoy:

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2025/03/13/elon-musk-hit-with-first-formal-conflict-of-interest-complaint-over-faa-starlink-deal/

 

 

Aaah - a DEI contract. Makes sense now.

 

Verizon are not performing, the FAA are looking for alternatives because of thi - https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/usdot-says-verizon-not-moving-fast-enough-24-billion-faa-contract-2025-03-11/?utm_source=chatgpt.com - or do you think Verizon should stay on because the identify as a minority?

 

According to GPT

"As of March 2025, Verizon's progress on its $2.4 billion, 15-year contract with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) to modernize air traffic control communications has been criticized for delays. U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy expressed concerns that Verizon is "not moving fast enough," emphasizing the urgency due to one-third of the current systems being outdated and unsustainable.

 

In response to these concerns, the FAA has initiated testing of SpaceX's Starlink terminals, particularly in remote areas like Alaska, to enhance communication reliability. While Starlink offers broad accessibility, it currently falls short compared to fiber-based broadband in terms of speed, cost, and reliability.  The FAA has not yet made a decision regarding a major contract with Starlink. In summary, the delays in Verizon's modernization efforts have raised significant safety concerns, prompting the FAA to explore alternative solutions like Starlink to ensure the reliability and safety of air traffic control communications.

While the exact timeline of the delays has not been specified, the concerns raised by government officials suggest that the modernization efforts are not proceeding at the desired pace, potentially impacting the safety and efficiency of air traffic operations."

As for the "Campaign Legal Center" trying to take this to court - I wonder if they are political.....

 

Major Donors and Their Political Leanings

1. The Wyss Foundation (Hansjorg Wyss)
   • Political Leaning: Left-leaning/Progressive
   • Evidence: Hansjorg Wyss, a Swiss billionaire, has directed significant funds toward progressive and environmental causes in the U.S. through his foundation. The Wyss Foundation has supported organizations like the Center for American Progress and Sixteen Thirty Fund, both tied to liberal advocacy. A 2021 New York Times investigation estimated Wyss donated around $208 million over a decade to left-leaning groups, often focused on climate, voting rights, and healthcare—priorities aligned with Democratic agendas. Critics, including conservative watchdogs like Americans for Public Trust, have accused him of influencing U.S. elections indirectly, though no legal violation has been proven.
   • Context: His support for CLC fits into a broader pattern of funding efforts to strengthen democratic institutions, a stance often embraced by progressives.
2. John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation
   • Political Leaning: Left-leaning/Progressive
   • Evidence: The MacArthur Foundation is widely recognized for its "Genius Grants" and support for social justice, climate change mitigation, and civic engagement—issues that skew toward progressive priorities. It has funded projects like the Safety and Justice Challenge (criminal justice reform) and nuclear disarmament efforts, which align with liberal policy goals. While it avoids direct partisan activity, its grantmaking history leans toward organizations and causes favored by the American left.
   • Context: Its backing of CLC reflects a focus on transparency and equity in governance, consistent with progressive ideals.
3. Open Society Foundations (George Soros)
   • Political Leaning: Strongly Left-leaning/Progressive
   • Evidence: George Soros is a well-known financier of liberal and progressive causes worldwide. Through Open Society Foundations, he has donated billions to support human rights, democracy promotion, and voting access—issues often championed by Democrats. In the U.S., he’s a major donor to Democratic campaigns and groups like the Democracy Alliance. His funding of CLC aligns with his long-standing push against unregulated political spending (e.g., opposing Citizens United), a position that pits him against conservative free-speech advocates.
   • Context: Soros’s involvement with CLC reinforces perceptions of a liberal tilt, given his high-profile status as a bogeyman for the political right.
4. Arnold Ventures (Laura and John Arnold)
   • Political Leaning: Centrist with Progressive Tendencies
   • Evidence: Laura and John Arnold, former hedge fund managers, fund a range of bipartisan reforms through Arnold Ventures, including healthcare transparency, criminal justice reform, and campaign finance oversight. John Arnold has donated to both Democratic and Republican candidates, suggesting pragmatism over ideology. However, their support for reducing money in politics and evidence-based policy often overlaps with progressive critiques of systemic inequality, even if they avoid partisan labels. Critics from the right, like the Capital Research Center, have flagged their funding of left-leaning groups, but their portfolio is less ideologically rigid than Soros’s or Wyss’s.
   • Context: Their contribution to CLC reflects a technocratic, reform-minded stance rather than a clear partisan lean, though it tilts left on election issues.
5. Amy P. Goldman Foundation
   • Political Leaning: Likely Left-leaning (Limited Data)
   • Evidence: Amy P. Goldman Fowler, an heiress to a real estate fortune, is less publicly documented as a political actor compared to others on this list. Her foundation focuses on horticulture, historic preservation, and civic causes, with fewer overt political signals. However, individual donations from Goldman have gone to Democratic candidates and progressive nonprofits in the past, per OpenSecrets data, suggesting a liberal inclination. The foundation’s support for CLC implies alignment with democratic reform, a cause more often associated with the left.
   • Context: Without extensive public records, this is a tentative assessment, but the pattern leans progressive.
6. Sam Bankman-Fried (Individual Donor)
   • Political Leaning: Left-leaning with Strategic Flexibility
   • Evidence: Before his 2022 downfall, Sam Bankman-Fried, the former FTX CEO, was a major political donor, giving over $40 million in the 2022 midterms, mostly to Democrats and left-leaning PACs like Protect Our Future, according to OpenSecrets. He publicly framed his giving as “effective altruism,” prioritizing pandemic preparedness and democracy, but also donated smaller amounts to Republicans to hedge influence. His $2.5 million+ to CLC between 2021-2022 fits his stated goal of supporting “pro-democracy” efforts, a term often coded as progressive in U.S. politics.
   • Context: His lean was pragmatic but predominantly left, driven by policy goals over strict ideology, until his legal troubles shifted focus away from his philanthropy.

Synthesis of Political Leanings

• Dominant Trend: The majority of CLC’s major donors—Wyss, MacArthur, Soros, Goldman, and Bankman-Fried—exhibit clear left-leaning or progressive tendencies. Their funding priorities (e.g., voting rights, campaign finance reform, social justice) align with Democratic Party platforms and broader liberal advocacy networks.
• Exception: Arnold Ventures stands out as more centrist, with a reformist rather than ideological bent, though its election-related giving still overlaps with progressive critiques of political spending.
• Overall Impression: The donor base skews heavily toward the political left, reinforcing perceptions that CLC’s “nonpartisan” mission operates within a framework shaped by progressive money and values. This doesn’t mean every donor is a partisan operative—many frame their support as pro-democracy rather than pro-party—but the cumulative effect tilts leftward.

 

Insane that the left would rather see planes fall from the sky than to see Elon awarded a contract that Verizon are failing to deliver.

 

Is that all you got?

 

[Chomper Higgot]

24 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

 

 

Aaah - a DEI contract. Makes sense now.

 

Verizon are not performing, the FAA are looking for alternatives because of thi - https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/usdot-says-verizon-not-moving-fast-enough-24-billion-faa-contract-2025-03-11/?utm_source=chatgpt.com - or do you think Verizon should stay on because the identify as a minority?

 

According to GPT

"As of March 2025, Verizon's progress on its $2.4 billion, 15-year contract with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) to modernize air traffic control communications has been criticized for delays. U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy expressed concerns that Verizon is "not moving fast enough," emphasizing the urgency due to one-third of the current systems being outdated and unsustainable.

 

In response to these concerns, the FAA has initiated testing of SpaceX's Starlink terminals, particularly in remote areas like Alaska, to enhance communication reliability. While Starlink offers broad accessibility, it currently falls short compared to fiber-based broadband in terms of speed, cost, and reliability.  The FAA has not yet made a decision regarding a major contract with Starlink. In summary, the delays in Verizon's modernization efforts have raised significant safety concerns, prompting the FAA to explore alternative solutions like Starlink to ensure the reliability and safety of air traffic control communications.

While the exact timeline of the delays has not been specified, the concerns raised by government officials suggest that the modernization efforts are not proceeding at the desired pace, potentially impacting the safety and efficiency of air traffic operations."

As for the "Campaign Legal Center" trying to take this to court - I wonder if they are political.....

 

Major Donors and Their Political Leanings

1. The Wyss Foundation (Hansjorg Wyss)
   • Political Leaning: Left-leaning/Progressive
   • Evidence: Hansjorg Wyss, a Swiss billionaire, has directed significant funds toward progressive and environmental causes in the U.S. through his foundation. The Wyss Foundation has supported organizations like the Center for American Progress and Sixteen Thirty Fund, both tied to liberal advocacy. A 2021 New York Times investigation estimated Wyss donated around $208 million over a decade to left-leaning groups, often focused on climate, voting rights, and healthcare—priorities aligned with Democratic agendas. Critics, including conservative watchdogs like Americans for Public Trust, have accused him of influencing U.S. elections indirectly, though no legal violation has been proven.
   • Context: His support for CLC fits into a broader pattern of funding efforts to strengthen democratic institutions, a stance often embraced by progressives.
2. John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation
   • Political Leaning: Left-leaning/Progressive
   • Evidence: The MacArthur Foundation is widely recognized for its "Genius Grants" and support for social justice, climate change mitigation, and civic engagement—issues that skew toward progressive priorities. It has funded projects like the Safety and Justice Challenge (criminal justice reform) and nuclear disarmament efforts, which align with liberal policy goals. While it avoids direct partisan activity, its grantmaking history leans toward organizations and causes favored by the American left.
   • Context: Its backing of CLC reflects a focus on transparency and equity in governance, consistent with progressive ideals.
3. Open Society Foundations (George Soros)
   • Political Leaning: Strongly Left-leaning/Progressive
   • Evidence: George Soros is a well-known financier of liberal and progressive causes worldwide. Through Open Society Foundations, he has donated billions to support human rights, democracy promotion, and voting access—issues often championed by Democrats. In the U.S., he’s a major donor to Democratic campaigns and groups like the Democracy Alliance. His funding of CLC aligns with his long-standing push against unregulated political spending (e.g., opposing Citizens United), a position that pits him against conservative free-speech advocates.
   • Context: Soros’s involvement with CLC reinforces perceptions of a liberal tilt, given his high-profile status as a bogeyman for the political right.
4. Arnold Ventures (Laura and John Arnold)
   • Political Leaning: Centrist with Progressive Tendencies
   • Evidence: Laura and John Arnold, former hedge fund managers, fund a range of bipartisan reforms through Arnold Ventures, including healthcare transparency, criminal justice reform, and campaign finance oversight. John Arnold has donated to both Democratic and Republican candidates, suggesting pragmatism over ideology. However, their support for reducing money in politics and evidence-based policy often overlaps with progressive critiques of systemic inequality, even if they avoid partisan labels. Critics from the right, like the Capital Research Center, have flagged their funding of left-leaning groups, but their portfolio is less ideologically rigid than Soros’s or Wyss’s.
   • Context: Their contribution to CLC reflects a technocratic, reform-minded stance rather than a clear partisan lean, though it tilts left on election issues.
5. Amy P. Goldman Foundation
   • Political Leaning: Likely Left-leaning (Limited Data)
   • Evidence: Amy P. Goldman Fowler, an heiress to a real estate fortune, is less publicly documented as a political actor compared to others on this list. Her foundation focuses on horticulture, historic preservation, and civic causes, with fewer overt political signals. However, individual donations from Goldman have gone to Democratic candidates and progressive nonprofits in the past, per OpenSecrets data, suggesting a liberal inclination. The foundation’s support for CLC implies alignment with democratic reform, a cause more often associated with the left.
   • Context: Without extensive public records, this is a tentative assessment, but the pattern leans progressive.
6. Sam Bankman-Fried (Individual Donor)
   • Political Leaning: Left-leaning with Strategic Flexibility
   • Evidence: Before his 2022 downfall, Sam Bankman-Fried, the former FTX CEO, was a major political donor, giving over $40 million in the 2022 midterms, mostly to Democrats and left-leaning PACs like Protect Our Future, according to OpenSecrets. He publicly framed his giving as “effective altruism,” prioritizing pandemic preparedness and democracy, but also donated smaller amounts to Republicans to hedge influence. His $2.5 million+ to CLC between 2021-2022 fits his stated goal of supporting “pro-democracy” efforts, a term often coded as progressive in U.S. politics.
   • Context: His lean was pragmatic but predominantly left, driven by policy goals over strict ideology, until his legal troubles shifted focus away from his philanthropy.

Synthesis of Political Leanings

• Dominant Trend: The majority of CLC’s major donors—Wyss, MacArthur, Soros, Goldman, and Bankman-Fried—exhibit clear left-leaning or progressive tendencies. Their funding priorities (e.g., voting rights, campaign finance reform, social justice) align with Democratic Party platforms and broader liberal advocacy networks.
• Exception: Arnold Ventures stands out as more centrist, with a reformist rather than ideological bent, though its election-related giving still overlaps with progressive critiques of political spending.
• Overall Impression: The donor base skews heavily toward the political left, reinforcing perceptions that CLC’s “nonpartisan” mission operates within a framework shaped by progressive money and values. This doesn’t mean every donor is a partisan operative—many frame their support as pro-democracy rather than pro-party—but the cumulative effect tilts leftward.

 

Insane that the left would rather see planes fall from the sky than to see Elon awarded a contract that Verizon are failing to deliver.

 

Is that all you got?

 

“Insane that the left would rather see planes fall from the sky than to see Elon awarded a contract that Verizon are failing to deliver.”

 

The same Musk who fired swathes of FAA leadership and staff, an act of vandalism that was swiftly followed by planes falling out of the skies.

 

Insane you say?!

[pedro01]

 A!1

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

“Insane that the left would rather see planes fall from the sky than to see Elon awarded a contract that Verizon are failing to deliver.”

 

The same Musk who fired swathes of FAA leadership and staff, an act of vandalism that was swiftly followed by planes falling out of the skies.

 

Insane you say?!

 

You should just take the loss.

 

Deflecting is a low IQ move. As is the lack of restraint. Try to leave it a few minutes from my reply to yours - or you seem too keen  - like a needy schoolboy chasing the cheerleader that's out of his reach.

 

As they say in Italy "schoolboys only pull the hair of the girls they'd love to kiss"

 

I'm flattered.

[ElwoodP]

Flame removed.

Next flame gets you a day off!

[daveAustin]

On 3/12/2025 at 4:53 PM, kimothai said:

Seems the only thing the lefties have left is hate.  Hate Trump.  Hate Musk. Hate this. Hate that.  Hate, hate, hate and more hate.   The lefty, Fetterman was right when he said lefties ate nothing more than a car alarm that nobody pays attention to anymore.

 

Fetterman Shreds Dem Colleagues for ‘Unhinged Petulance’ During Trump Address: Makes Him Look ‘Presidential’

Both sides of the extreme are as idiotic as one another. Take a step back yourself and listen to the vitriol from those you support. 

[sammieuk1]

3 hours ago, pedro01 said:

 

You must be a leftist.

 

Judging me based on your preception of my race. 

 

Nice.

 

Let me guess - you are a British sexpat that lives in the UK and dreams of living as an immigrant here in Thailand - or are you an British sexpat living in Thailand that doesn't have the intellect to figure out this makes you an immigrant?

 

Should we have a poll?

Your trouble is you do to much guessing and zero thinking 🤔