The EU Is Authoritarian and Hates Democracy

[Yagoda]

Lets see. Criminalizing speech. Negating elections.

Wonder whats next?

https://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2025/03/15/the_eu_killed_romanias_democracy_1097778.html

[RayC]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Lets see. Criminalizing speech. Negating elections.

Wonder whats next?

https://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2025/03/15/the_eu_killed_romanias_democracy_1097778.html

 

Is this piece an example of the journalist quality that those of us who source our information from the MSM are missing? If so, a bit of self-congratulation is in order. Well done me for being so discerning.

 

Do you seriously think that this rambling piece, which moves from discussing a national election in Romania to police raids in  Germany and the UK - no longer an EU member incidentally - in any way supports the headline: "The EU Is Authoritarian and Hates Democracy"?

 

No need to reply: It's a rhetorical question. I know the answer.

[Yagoda]

22 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

Is this piece an example of the journalist quality that those of us who source our information from the MSM are missing? If so, a bit of self-congratulation is in order. Well done me for being so discerning.

 

Do you seriously think that this rambling piece, which moves from discussing a national election in Romania to police raids in  Germany and the UK - no longer an EU member incidentally - in any way supports the headline: "The EU Is Authoritarian and Hates Democracy"?

What would you call the events set forth therein.?

 

Lets start with an easy one.

The EU should stay out of Romania and whoever he is who just got elected should be President Do you agree?

 

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[Hamus Yaigh]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Lets see. Criminalizing speech. Negating elections

Straight out the JV Vance school boys guide to free speech. Vance is arguing its better to have a countries elections be interfered with from Russia as a free speech right where speech can include lies and indoctrination, rather than uphold election law.

With allies like this who needs enemies.

[RayC]

13 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

What would you call the events set forth therein.?

 

Lets start with an easy one.

The EU should stay out of Romania and whoever he is who just got elected should be President Do you agree?

 

 

Romania is a member of the EU. National elections are the responsibility of the individual member states and independent of the EU. The judiciaries in the individual member states are independent of the EU. The interpretation of national law is a matter for the individual member states' judiciaries.

 

You really should familarise yourself with some of the basic facts about the relationship between the individual member states and the EU institutions.

[Yagoda]

20 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

Romania is a member of the EU. National elections are the responsibility of the individual member states and independent of the EU. The judiciaries in the individual member states are independent of the EU. The interpretation of national law is a matter for the individual member states' judiciaries.

 

You really should familarise yourself with some of the basic facts about the relationship between the individual member states and the EU institutions.

So this article is a lie? There was an election, a dude got elected that EU said no to? Its a lie? Dude that won the election is President? Help me out?

[jvs]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

So this article is a lie? There was an election, a dude got elected that EU said no to? Its a lie? Dude that won the election is President? Help me put?

I remember another country where there was an election,a dude got elected and "someone" said no.

Dude that won the election is president?

"Help me put" ?

[RayC]

11 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So this article is a lie? There was an election, a dude got elected that EU said no to? Its a lie? Dude that won the election is President? Help me out?

 

Dude is not President. The Romanian Supreme Court ruled against him. The EU are not involved.

[Ben Zioner]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

The EU should stay out of Romania and whoever he is who just got elected should be President Do you agree?

Not if the "elected President" is a KGB plant and had his campaign funded by Russia. BTW the same may happen to Donald once his links to Poo Tin get clarified. 

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Straight out the JV Vance school boys guide to free speech. Vance is arguing its better to have a countries elections be interfered with from Russia as a free speech right where speech can include lies and indoctrination, rather than uphold election law.

With allies like this who needs enemies.

In other words, some unelected apparatchik in Brussels decides whether the peoples voice is allowed?

[UWEB]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

In other words, some unelected apparatchik in Brussels decides whether the peoples voice is allowed?

Take care for your own Russian Muppet's in the White House, more than enough to do for you.

[Yagoda]

18 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Not if the "elected President" is a KGB plant and had his campaign funded by Russia. BTW the same may happen to Donald once his links to Poo Tin get clarified. 

So elections only count when the dictator says so. Got it. Free and fair as long as "we" approve in Brussels?

[Yagoda]

46 minutes ago, jvs said:

I remember another country where there was an election,a dude got elected and "someone" said no.

Dude that won the election is president?

"Help me put" ?

I dont understand. Did the EU negate the results of an election in Romania? Why are you deflecting?

[jvs]

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I dont understand. Did the EU negate the results of an election in Romania? Why are you deflecting?

Yes there is a lot you do not understand.

 

is ok,most MAGA people don't understand what is going on,hopefully some will realize but it is too late.

[Yagoda]

47 minutes ago, RayC said:

The Romanian Supreme Court ruled against him.

Why?

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[newbee2022]

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Lets see. Criminalizing speech. Negating elections.

Wonder whats next?

https://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2025/03/15/the_eu_killed_romanias_democracy_1097778.html

I don't think you'll get the Pulitzer prize for this copy/paste nonsense 😂

[Yagoda]

14 minutes ago, UWEB said:

Take care for your own Russian Muppet's in the White House, more than enough to do for you.

Well thats deflecting but the article mentions the Afd I think.

 

Do you think the AfD is a legitimate party?

[RayC]

Just now, Yagoda said:

Why?

 

No idea. With apologies to any Romanian readers I have little interest in their domestic politics.

 

I suggest that you research the matter if you are that interested.

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, newbee2022 said:

I don't think you'll get the Pulitzer prize for this copy/paste nonsense 😂

Do you agree with the premise of the article?

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, RayC said:

 

No idea. With apologies to any Romanian readers I have little interest in their domestic politics.

 

I suggest that you research the matter if you are that interested.

I linked the article. What facts does he recite that are inaccurate?

[FlorC]

Democracy in europe means voting until you get the outcome the eu (unelected heads) want.

The globalists grip on the US is slipping , but they hold a strong grip on a fragmented europe with each country having 10's of parties that make a pact to exclude some.

You can guess which ones are excluded.

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Straight out the JV Vance school boys guide to free speech. Vance is arguing its better to have a countries elections be interfered with from Russia as a free speech right where speech can include lies and indoctrination, rather than uphold election law.

With allies like this who needs enemies.

Did the EU interfere in Romanian elections?

[RayC]

20 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

In other words, some unelected apparatchik in Brussels decides whether the peoples voice is allowed?

 

15 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I dont understand. Did the EU negate the results of an election in Romania? Why are you deflecting?

 

17 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So elections only count when the dictator says so. Got it. Free and fair as long as "we" approve in Brussels?

 

The EU did not negate the results of the Romanian election. That is not a matter of opinion. It is a matter of fact. 

 

You should stop posting misinformation.

[Yagoda]

6 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

 

 

The EU did not negate the results of the Romanian election. That is not a matter of opinion. It is a matter of fact. 

 

You should stop posting misinformation.

Thats why I am asking what part of that analysis was wrong. Especially this:

"Leaders in the European Union have been cheering on the blatant destruction of Romania’s democratic process. An Austrian MP openly celebrated Georgescu’s police detainment and is confident that “other countries will follow” in persecuting public figures who speak out against the EU’s Orwellian laws and regulations. Meanwhile, Romanian authorities and the European Commission have been meeting with NGOs to restrict and censor “illegal” content on online platforms like Google, Meta, and TikTok ahead of Romania’s re-run election in May."

[RayC]

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I linked the article. What facts does he recite that are inaccurate?

 

Again, no idea.

 

The linked article talks about 3 domestic issues in Romania, Germany and the UK - which I repeat is NOT an EU member state - and makes only passing reference to the EU.

 

The linked article is tangential to the headline of this thread, 'The EU Is Authoritarian and Hates Democracy', and certainly does not offer much in the way of evidence to support your contention.

[UWEB]

19 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Well thats deflecting but the article mentions the Afd I think.

 

Do you think the AfD is a legitimate party?

The NSAFD is a bunch of Fascists and criminals and soon get dissolved by the German Constitutional Court. With more than a smile on my face I donated some hundred Euros to an Organization of truly Democrats to push this forward. 

[RayC]

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Thats why I am asking what part of that analysis was wrong. Especially this:

"Leaders in the European Union have been cheering on the blatant destruction of Romania’s democratic process. An Austrian MP openly celebrated Georgescu’s police detainment and is confident that “other countries will follow” in persecuting public figures who speak out against the EU’s Orwellian laws and regulations. Meanwhile, Romanian authorities and the European Commission have been meeting with NGOs to restrict and censor “illegal” content on online platforms like Google, Meta, and TikTok ahead of Romania’s re-run election in May."

 

Do I really need to explain the difference between 'cheering on' and 'direct involvement'?

[Middle Aged Grouch]

The EU is killing Europe, no secret.