Nightmare in Kursk: Ukrainian Troops Recount Devastating Retreat

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't support the war, so why would I sign up to it?

So if the Chinese came for New Zealand, you'd be laying out the welcome mat?

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I can understand why he did it- to divert Russian troops from the real war in the east. He just failed to understand that Putin isn't an idiot.

I beg to differ. Only an idiot would launch a war based on intelligence that told him what he wanted to hear.

[Lacessit]

On 3/18/2025 at 10:40 AM, dinsdale said:

You can bet your bottom dollar that war crimes and atrocities have been carried out by both sides. It's a bloody war of attrition. The rule book tends to get thrown out in battle.

AFAIK Ukraine is not bombing hospitals and schools.

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

AFAIK Ukraine is not bombing hospitals and schools.

 

Actuallly, the Ukrainians did kill civilians in Kursk, bombed apartment blocks in Russia, murdered Russian journalists.

[dinsdale]

9 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

AFAIK Ukraine is not bombing hospitals and schools.

Another gem of a post. You do understand that war crimes can also happen on the battlefield? This is war mate. Both sides are out to kill each other and are after victory whatever it takes. If that means for example dropping poisonous gas into the trenches of either side then so be it. It's happening. Both Ukrainian and Russian drones operators are doing this. HELLO! Reality mate.

[beautifulthailand99]

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

You are posting from New Zealand.

The point is he wants to stop the war and isn't encouraging others to fight for it and was actually a member of the armed forces rather than an armchair corporal.

[beautifulthailand99]

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Russia will think it has won.

 

In reality, it is a pariah nation, with a ruined economy, and in demographic collapse. It's a Pyrrhic victory.

 

The Chinese will move on eastern Siberia when the timing is right.

They really won't because they are not stupid and would rather keep Russia in onside than make another enemy. Particuarly so since the west is rattling it's diminshed sabres at the Rising Dragon. Lest we forget the UK has virtually mothballed an aircraft carriet because it can't get the staff and the 5 billion Ajax tank still isn't in service. Something to do with shaking the occupants too much. You really couldn't make this stuff up but Starmer likes the khaki and posing with Macron whilst meanwhile thousands of muslim men land every week and are put up in 4 star hotels.

[Hellfire]

 

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It stopped being their own decision when they started forcing men to go to the front. Do all those Ukrainians hiding in Thailand think the war is a good idea?

Let me ask you. It is a night time. You are going home with your hypothetical granddaughter. Then there is a drunk Russian guy suddenly moving in your direction. He is big, he is strong, he is aggressive. What is your action? Will you calculate that you do not have any chances vs him and will run away leaving your g. daughter to deal with him? Reading your posts - this is exactly what you will do. Most of the Ukrainians are different. They are ready to die - if necessary. Not you and not even your orange clown will tell them what is the best way for them to act.

[Mike_Hunt]

28 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

The point is he wants to stop the war and isn't encouraging others to fight for it and was actually a member of the armed forces rather than an armchair corporal.

Putin can stop the war any day now. 

[rough diamond]

1 minute ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Putin can stop the war any day now. 

Of course he can but why should he now that trump has given in to him?

[Mike_Hunt]

24 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

They really won't because they are not stupid and would rather keep Russia in onside than make another enemy. Particuarly so since the west is rattling it's diminshed sabres at the Rising Dragon. Lest we forget the UK has virtually mothballed an aircraft carriet because it can't get the staff and the 5 billion Ajax tank still isn't in service. Something to do with shaking the occupants too much. You really couldn't make this stuff up but Starmer likes the khaki and posing with Macron whilst meanwhile thousands of muslim men land every week and are put up in 4 star hotels.

https://www.newsweek.com/china-russia-vladivostok-lesson-far-east-backfires-1869327

 

China has their eye on Russian land. 

[Mike_Hunt]

7 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

Of course he can but why should he now that trump has given in to him?

The war is a stalemate.   What do you think should happen moving forward? 

[Hellfire]

11 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Putin can stop the war any day now. 

He cannot stop anything. His stay in power (as well as his regime’s) depends on a result of this war. 

[Hellfire]

Слава Україні, слава українським героям, слава українському козацтву, слава вільному народу України, слава Україні!

[beautifulthailand99]

Et tu Colonel Richard Kemp ? Aye et tu

 

The Kursk offensive may prove to have been Ukraine’s most costly mistake

Since the failed counter offensive in 2023, Western hopes that Zelensky might prevail have sharply fallen away

 

https://archive.ph/NZ5g2

 

Self-evidently, it is vital to show strength ahead of negotiations and the West’s failure over three years to adequately bolster Ukraine’s fighting capability has led us to the opposite position. The defeat at Kursk is a tragic allegory for the dire situation that the country now faces.

 

Some of us have long memories and have receipts.

 

Ukraine has just humiliated Putin. Long may it last
Kyiv’s forces have advanced into Russian territory. This may mark a turn in the West’s fortunes in the struggle against the Kremlin’s despot

 

https://archive.ph/nmqV2