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Americans could not afford vacations long before Donald Trump 1.0 or 2.0.  Many simply "charge it".  Just look at the amount of credit card and personal loan debt that Americans currently hold.  CNBC estimates American credit debt exceeds 1.21 Trillion debt and growing. 

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28 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Especially Republicans they have something about spending their money on U.S. related things

Hogwash.

If Musk was able to get an exemption for tarrifs on his Chinese made Tesla MAGA would buy it INSTANTLY 

 

If it's cheap enough. 👍

 

Americans LOVE cheap chinese commie cr🍏p.

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5 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

There are many things to do in the USA without leaving the country.   

Indeed and it is very beautiful, having done dozens of states back in the day. However, most Americans don't really seem to travel since they tend to have scant knowledge of the outside world, or think it's beyond them, or too expensive, or too difficult etc. It's bizarre that the richest nation has its 'normal' folk having generally the least amount of vacation time allotted to them (is it even paid?) in the western world, then there's the whole paying through the nose for medical and the ridiculous tipping culture thing. What's the point in being super rich and 'the best' if you can't have time off and enjoy life? Not a dig at the place, and it's nowt to do with Trump, it's always been that way, but it's all a bit fugged up!

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12 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

There are many things to do in the USA without leaving the country.   

But it widens your mind .....OK I see

 

regards worgeordie

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19 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

Indeed and it is very beautiful, having done dozens of states back in the day. However, most Americans don't really seem to travel since they tend to have scant knowledge of the outside world, or think it's beyond them, or too expensive, or too difficult etc. It's bizarre that the richest nation has its 'normal' folk having generally the least amount of vacation time allotted to them (is it even paid?) in the western world, then there's the whole paying through the nose for medical and the ridiculous tipping culture thing. What's the point in being super rich and 'the best' if you can't have time off and enjoy life? Not a dig at the place, and it's nowt to do with Trump, it's always been that way, but it's all a bit fugged up!

The US is not superrich, only its elites are. The majority of the population can hardly make ends meet. The income distribution is on on par with corrupt banana republics. Sad, but o so true. 

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39 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Free holiday 365 days a year with pool

 

40 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Free holiday 365 days a year with pool

That's gives less enjoyment than a three weeks vacation when you are 25.

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 America is hard to explain.  Can Americans "afford" to take vacations?  What do you mean by vacation?  What do you mean by "afford"? 

 

A certain segment of the population can afford to do anything they want, including travel at home or travel around the world. 

 

Much of what's left of the middle class can still "afford" to travel, so long as Visa, Mastercard, or American Express is involved.  Fly now, pay later.

 

And some can't even pay their rent or buy groceries, let alone travel anywhere. 

 

I saw a news story today about Door Dash food delivery that now comes with a financing option.  That should tell you something about Americans and their financial situation. 

 

And there's also a cultural component to it all.  Some think the end all be all to a great vacation is hoping on a plane and going to Florida or California.  That's their mindset.  And some don't want to travel because they think they're indispensable at work.  

 

On the whole, I'd say not many Americans can or will do much traveling. 

 

 

 

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43 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

Indeed and it is very beautiful, having done dozens of states back in the day. However, most Americans don't really seem to travel since they tend to have scant knowledge of the outside world, or think it's beyond them, or too expensive, or too difficult etc. It's bizarre that the richest nation has its 'normal' folk having generally the least amount of vacation time allotted to them (is it even paid?) in the western world, then there's the whole paying through the nose for medical and the ridiculous tipping culture thing. What's the point in being super richxes local stat federal lol it sucks and 'the best' if you can't have time off and enjoy life? Not a dig at the place, and it's nowt to do with Trump, it's always been that way, but it's all a bit fugged up!

left out taxes local state and federal is sucks 

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1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Everyone in my extended family will take one. Some of us are always on vacation.

In Cambodia, why not.................:clap2:

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13 minutes ago, jas007 said:

 America is hard to explain.  Can Americans "afford" to take vacations?  What do you mean by vacation?  What do you mean by "afford"? 

 

A certain segment of the population can afford to do anything they want, including travel at home or travel around the world. 

 

Much of what's left of the middle class can still "afford" to travel, so long as Visa, Mastercard, or American Express is involved.  Fly now, pay later.

 

And some can't even pay their rent or buy groceries, let alone travel anywhere. 

 

I saw a news story today about Door Dash food delivery that now comes with a financing option.  That should tell you something about Americans and their financial situation. 

 

And there's also a cultural component to it all.  Some think the end all be all to a great vacation is hoping on a plane and going to Florida or California.  That's their mindset.  And some don't want to travel because they think they're indispensable at work.  

 

On the whole, I'd say not many Americans can or will do much traveling. 

 

 

 

In 2022, approximately 80.7 million Americans traveled outside the country, a 64% increase from 2021, reaching 81% of pre-pandemic travel levels. 

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Outbound Travel:

In 2022, 80.7 million Americans traveled outside the country, which is 64% more than in 2021 and 81% of 2019 levels. 

Top Destinations:

The top overseas destinations for Americans in 2022 were the United Kingdom, France, the Dominican Republic, Italy, and Germany/Spain. 

Domestic Travel:

In 2022, 61% of Americans chose to travel domestically, with driving and road trips being their preferred method of transportation. 

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12 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

In 2022, 61% of Americans chose to travel domestically

That's what I said.  The majority of Americans are poor and can't afford to go anywhere except to go visit their Aunt Bertha because she just won $200 in the lottery and she's buying McDonald's for everyone. 😆

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13 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The 24th Annual Vacation Deprivation Report was released in June 2024 .

This data was from 9 months ago?

You mean...

All data is from the past? 

Gee.

Because the future hasn't happened yet?

Wow.  So profound. 😄

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14 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

In 2022, approximately 80.7 million Americans traveled outside the country, a 64% increase from 2021, reaching 81% of pre-pandemic travel levels. 

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Outbound Travel:

In 2022, 80.7 million Americans traveled outside the country, which is 64% more than in 2021 and 81% of 2019 levels. 

Top Destinations:

The top overseas destinations for Americans in 2022 were the United Kingdom, France, the Dominican Republic, Italy, and Germany/Spain. 

Domestic Travel:

In 2022, 61% of Americans chose to travel domestically, with driving and road trips being their preferred method of transportation. 

2022?  That's three years ago and a lot has changed since then.  Don't forget inflation. 

 

The government would have us believe inflation is running around 3% or so. A ridiculous number that everyone knows is fake.  It's a lot higher than that, and many people simply aren't buying anything but necessities right now, and many can do that only with credit. 

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2 minutes ago, jas007 said:

2022?  That's three years ago and a lot has changed since then.  Don't forget inflation. 

 

The government would have us believe inflation is running around 3% or so. A ridiculous number that everyone knows is fake.  It's a lot higher than that, and many people simply aren't buying anything but necessities right now, and many can do that only with credit. 

Joe Biden made a mess of things.  We lost 20%. Buying power. 

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2 minutes ago, TedG said:

Joe Biden made a mess of things.  We lost 20%. Buying power. 

I'd be surprised it was that low.  Depending on what you're trying to buy, the number can be a lot higher than that.  Some things are starting to come down, although Trump's tariffs might complicate things for a while.  

 

 

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1 minute ago, jas007 said:

I'd be surprised it was that low.  Depending on what you're trying to buy, the number can be a lot higher than that.  Some things are starting to come down, although Trump's tariffs might complicate things for a while.  

 

 

The CPI-W shows that from  Jan 2021 to Jan 2024, the official number was 21.98%.  Ouch. 

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7 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Trump's tariffs might complicate things for a while.  

Hitler's invasion of Poland might complicate things for awhile but it will all work out in the end.  Positive thinking! 😄

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