Strange charge at tax office

[offset]

Today I filed for tax at the tax office to prove my address i showed her my rental agreement. She said this has not got a stamp on it and will cost 0.1% of the yearly cost.I did not argue because it was not a lot of money but as anybody had the same happen to them

[motdaeng]

eg. these stamps are used to "legalize" a contract. you can buy them at the tax office .... i believe the staff had good intentions ... 555

[redwood1]

50 minutes ago, offset said:

Today I filed for tax at the tax office to prove my address i showed her my rental agreement. She said this has not got a stamp on it and will cost 0.1% of the yearly cost.I did not argue because it was not a lot of money but as anybody had the same happen to them

 

So we only need to pay 0.1% of our yearly rent to cover our income tax for the entire year.....Smashing baby......Where do I sign up....I will be first in line....

[offset]

4 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

 

So we only need to pay 0.1% of our yearly rent to cover our income tax for the entire year.....Smashing baby......Where do I sign up....I will be first in line....

At least I had the pleasure that I ended up that they owe me money

[bamnutsak]

11 hours ago, offset said:

to prove my address i showed her my rental agreement

 

I wonder if other forms of proof of residence would be sufficient.

 

TM.47? TM.30? Drivers License? Utility bills? Bank correspondence?

 

 

 

I think Tax Stamps need to be affixed within 30 days of execution to "legalize" the document.

 

 

 

10 hours ago, offset said:

At least I had the pleasure that I ended up that they owe me money

 

The run of "no tax paid" continues.

[motdaeng]

20 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

The run of "no tax paid" continues.

 

i like that "the run of no tax paid continues" ...

but in return, you get peace of mind knowing you follow the law, rules, and regulations.

you get a receipt, and for some of us, a nice bit of pocket money from the returning withholding tax .... 

 

[offset]

1 hour ago, motdaeng said:

 

i like that "the run of no tax paid continues" ...

but in return, you get peace of mind knowing you follow the law, rules, and regulations.

you get a receipt, and for some of us, a nice bit of pocket money from the returning withholding tax .... 

 

When did you get the form telling you that no tax is to be paid

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, motdaeng said:

 

i like that "the run of no tax paid continues" ...

but in return, you get peace of mind knowing you follow the law, rules, and regulations.

you get a receipt, and for some of us, a nice bit of pocket money from the returning withholding tax .... 

 

What 'law' are you referring to? I haven't read anywhere that says that we must file a return if we do not owe any tax. Thais certainly don't and we are governed by the same rules.

 

I also have 'peace of mind'. I know that I do not owe TRD any money and can prove it should I be called on to do so. So I'll not bother to waste my time or theirs. 

[motdaeng]

11 minutes ago, offset said:

When did you get the form telling you that no tax is to be paid

 

after my tax return was reviewed by the tax office and declared correct and complete ... !

(i have also received and already redeemed the withholding tax check ...  )

 

you can download this "tax confirmation" for this tax year via the online portal ...

[offset]

6 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

 

after my tax return was reviewed by the tax office and declared correct and complete ... !

(i have also received and already redeemed the withholding tax check ...  )

 

you can download this "tax confirmation" for this tax year via the online portal ...

Can I ask how long did it take them to review you case

[motdaeng]

19 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

What 'law' are you referring to? I haven't read anywhere that says that we must file a return if we do not owe any tax. Thais certainly don't and we are governed by the same rules.

 

I also have 'peace of mind'. I know that I do not owe TRD any money and can prove it should I be called on to do so. So I'll not bother to waste my time or theirs. 

 

the tax situation of each individual is different. the tax regulations specify the income threshold at which a tax declaration must be filed.

up until today, i haven't seen any written instructions from the trd stating that if no taxes are due, a tax declaration doesn't need to be submitted.

there are many reports, that a tax office employee verbally told that no tax declaration is required, but a requests for written confirmation were denied ...

 

everyone must decide for themselves what to do ... 

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, motdaeng said:

 

i like that "the run of no tax paid continues" ...

but in return, you get peace of mind knowing you follow the law, rules, and regulations.

you get a receipt, and for some of us, a nice bit of pocket money from the returning withholding tax .... 

 

 

sadly, mine has the same zero's.

Upside though, I owe nothing !

[motdaeng]

31 minutes ago, offset said:

Can I ask how long did it take them to review you case

 

for my daughter and wife (both holding thai passports), after just 4 days (early january),

the withholding tax was directly transferred to their prompt pay bank account!

 

my case this year was a bit more complicated, i had to submit additional documents.

after clearing up the uncertainties, it took about 10 days until i received the check in the post mail ...

 

(btw, we've all been doing tax refunds for over 10 years ... and this for a good reason )

[Antti]

I guess the somchais at tax office are waking up to the fact that they can make money off of the falang numbnuts who are very eager to pay tax and don't take no for an answer.

[Letseng]

On 3/28/2025 at 9:22 AM, Moonlover said:

What 'law' are you referring to? I haven't read anywhere that says that we must file a return if we do not owe any tax. Thais certainly don't and we are governed by the same rules.

 

I also have 'peace of mind'. I know that I do not owe TRD any money and can prove it should I be called on to do so. So I'll not bother to waste my time or theirs. 

I went to tax office last week. I only have "income" from funds remitted. Didn't remit any in 2024. Was sent away with

"no income", no tax payable".

They didn't want me to file a form. I have no idea if this is correct. But obviously can't force them. This was in Bkk, Timesquare Bldg.

 

[Moonlover]

6 minutes ago, Letseng said:

I went to tax office last week. I only have "income" from funds remitted. Didn't remit any in 2024. Was sent away with

"no income", no tax payable".

They didn't want me to file a form. I have no idea if this is correct. But obviously can't force them. This was in Bkk, Timesquare Bldg.

 

No surprises there then. 

[ujayujay]

On 3/27/2025 at 8:17 PM, offset said:

Today I filed for tax at the tax office to prove my address i showed her my rental agreement. She said this has not got a stamp on it and will cost 0.1% of the yearly cost.I did not argue because it was not a lot of money but as anybody had the same happen to them

Tea money eventually🤣

[TimBKK]

On 3/28/2025 at 9:59 AM, Antti said:

I guess the somchais at tax office are waking up to the fact that they can make money off of the falang numbnuts who are very eager to pay tax and don't take no for an answer.

Guess you missed the bit where the OP said he got money back.  Quite ironic that the ‘numbnut’ slur is much more fitting of you than him.  

[RocketDog]

On 3/29/2025 at 3:41 PM, Moonlover said:

No surprises there then. 

It sounds a bit like you are whistling past the graveyard.

 

If you are sure your stance is correct (for you) there is no need to point it out repetitively. 

 

Is there? 

 

BTW  I agree with you and I keep scrupulous records of proof that I owe nothing and thus have not filed.

 

If I determine that I owe taxes some year then I will file.

I refuse to risk my wife and life in the Kingdom over a few hundred dollars tax. I live here and use the roads and infrastructure too.

 

Every expat should make their own assessment themselves. Probably some of them do owe taxes, "fair" or not.