Elon Musk Interview

[Yagoda]

Here is the Posts article on it. Ill watch the interview later. 

 

https://nypost.com/2025/03/27/us-news/elon-musk-says-doges-trillion-dollar-target-quite-achievable-without-services-cut/

 

Isnt transparency wonderful? Winning! The People are regaining control

[kingstonkid]

Here is the interview not just with him buit with his team

 

My questions are

if the Dems hate this somuch why did Obama champion it?

How can you justify thinking a system where a 9 month old and a 140 year old can get business loans?

Whewre there is somuch fraud in the medicare system that the fraus alone is taking away funds that could go to others?

 

With out stating how you could do it better?

 

It seems that they are attacking trump and Musk but they are only attacking the person they are not saying there s no fraud nor are there too many people with obsolets systems.  They just want to swera dn use profanity while maligning people in wheelchairs and ot coming up with a plan of their own to resolve these issues.

 

 

 

 

[impulse]

Just the other day, there was a thread about the long wait on hold at Social Security.

 

Turns out that 40% of their incoming calls are fraudsters calling to have someone's benefits funneled into a different bank account.  How anyone can be against ferreting out that kind of thing is beyond me to understand. 

 

Unless they have the syndrome, or they're benefitting from it.

 

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Here is the Posts article on it. Ill watch the interview later. 

 

https://nypost.com/2025/03/27/us-news/elon-musk-says-doges-trillion-dollar-target-quite-achievable-without-services-cut/

 

Isnt transparency wonderful? Winning! The People are regaining control

No no no, I only want to see MSM edited versions of the interview that fuel my unhinged mental state of hating Musk and burning teslas for no reason 

[Yagoda]

4 hours ago, impulse said:

Turns out that 40% of their incoming calls are fraudsters calling to have someone's benefits funneled into a different bank account.  How anyone can be against ferreting out that kind of thing is beyond me to understand. 

 

Guess why they have new requirements to change direct deposit.

[placeholder]

11 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Here is the Posts article on it. Ill watch the interview later. 

 

https://nypost.com/2025/03/27/us-news/elon-musk-says-doges-trillion-dollar-target-quite-achievable-without-services-cut/

 

Isnt transparency wonderful? Winning! The People are regaining control

Musk tried to put a stop to the fact-checking of his claims by eliminating codes that could identify programs and expenditures allegedly cut. He got called out on that.

DOGE Reverses Move That Made Its Claims Nearly Impossible to Check

In early March, the group — which had been caught in a series of high-profile errors — began posting itemized claims about the savings it had achieved from canceling federal grants. Its website interface provided only minimal details about those grants but the site’s public source code included identification numbers, making it possible to glean more information from other official sources.

On March 5, however, the group removed those identifiers from the code, while also adding thousands more grants, making it very difficult to verify the figures provided. A White House official said the group had withheld identifying information “for security purposes.”

https://archive.ph/jCl5o

[Cameroni]

11 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Here is the Posts article on it. Ill watch the interview later. 

 

https://nypost.com/2025/03/27/us-news/elon-musk-says-doges-trillion-dollar-target-quite-achievable-without-services-cut/

 

Isnt transparency wonderful? Winning! The People are regaining control

 

Brilliant article, rock on Elon! ROCK ON!

 

 Elon Musk said Thursday that slashing a trillion in federal spending is “quite achievable” without impacting the core services — and vowed that Social Security recipients “will receive more money” thanks to their work.

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9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Brilliant article, rock on Elon! ROCK ON!

 

 Elon Musk said Thursday that slashing a trillion in federal spending is “quite achievable” without impacting the core services — and vowed that Social Security recipients “will receive more money” thanks to their work.

He's said lots of things about how Doge is saving money.. Lot of which turn out to be false.

[CallumWK]

Musk’s DOGE staffers arrive at SEC to hunt for dpending cuts

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/musk-doge-staffers-arrive-sec-144123912.html

 

The agency has historically cost the government less in operating expenses than it produces in revenue from fees and enforcement actions. “In effect, the SEC pays for itself and costs taxpayers nothing,” a group of Columbia Law School professors wrote in a blog post this month. “Cutting its staff and budget is thus counterproductive and inflationary.”

 

“Given Mr. Musk’s history with the SEC, it is troubling that he may now be given influence over the agency’s operations,” they wrote to acting Chair Mark Uyeda.

 

Days before Trump’s second inauguration, the SEC sued Musk again. This time, the regulator accused the billionaire of blowing the deadline to disclose his growing stake in Twitter before he tried to take over the social media platform in 2022.

 

 

[frank83628]

27 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Musk tried to put a stop to the fact-checking of his claims by eliminating codes that could identify programs and expenditures allegedly cut. He got called out on that.

DOGE Reverses Move That Made Its Claims Nearly Impossible to Check

In early March, the group — which had been caught in a series of high-profile errors — began posting itemized claims about the savings it had achieved from canceling federal grants. Its website interface provided only minimal details about those grants but the site’s public source code included identification numbers, making it possible to glean more information from other official sources.

On March 5, however, the group removed those identifiers from the code, while also adding thousands more grants, making it very difficult to verify the figures provided. A White House official said the group had withheld identifying information “for security purposes.”

https://archive.ph/jCl5o

But what you said is simply not true in reality, do you have a direct quote of Musk confirming any of this ?

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

But what you said is simply not true in reality, do you have a direct quote of Musk confirming any of this ?

You mean because Musk doesn't run Doge?

[Cameroni]

16 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Musk’s DOGE staffers arrive at SEC to hunt for dpending cuts

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/musk-doge-staffers-arrive-sec-144123912.html

 

The agency has historically cost the government less in operating expenses than it produces in revenue from fees and enforcement actions. “In effect, the SEC pays for itself and costs taxpayers nothing,” a group of Columbia Law School professors wrote in a blog post this month. “Cutting its staff and budget is thus counterproductive and inflationary.”

 

“Given Mr. Musk’s history with the SEC, it is troubling that he may now be given influence over the agency’s operations,” they wrote to acting Chair Mark Uyeda.

 

Days before Trump’s second inauguration, the SEC sued Musk again. This time, the regulator accused the billionaire of blowing the deadline to disclose his growing stake in Twitter before he tried to take over the social media platform in 2022.

 

 

 

That's a step too far. The SEC was always chronically understaffed. They are vital to uncover financial fraud, even if they did fail miserably in the asset-backed crisis.

[worgeordie]

11 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

How can you justify thinking a system where a 9 month old and a 140 year old can get business loans?

How many have been arrested for fraud ? , 

 

regards Worgeordie

[NoDisplayName]

24 minutes ago, placeholder said:

He's said lots of things about how Doge is saving money.. Lot of which turn out to be false.

 

That implies he also said lots of things about how Doge is saving money...a lot of which turn out to be true.

 

What do you have against saving money?

 

Does the world truly need more transgenderfried mices?

[placeholder]

11 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

Here is the interview not just with him buit with his team

 

My questions are

if the Dems hate this somuch why did Obama champion it?

How can you justify thinking a system where a 9 month old and a 140 year old can get business loans?

Whewre there is somuch fraud in the medicare system that the fraus alone is taking away funds that could go to others?

 

With out stating how you could do it better?

 

It seems that they are attacking trump and Musk but they are only attacking the person they are not saying there s no fraud nor are there too many people with obsolets systems.  They just want to swera dn use profanity while maligning people in wheelchairs and ot coming up with a plan of their own to resolve these issues.

 

 

 

 

You seem awfully credulous of Musk's claims. Where's the actual evidence? He does have a history in regard to his claims.

 

What we know about claims DOGE found $312M in business loans to children

https://www.yahoo.com/news/know-claims-doge-found-312m-232300567.html

[frank83628]

17 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You mean because Musk doesn't run Doge?

No, because I don't give any credibility to a single thing you write. 

[daveAustin]

4 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

Does the world truly need more transgenderfried mices?

Nope. It needs to rid itself of both extreme left and right a-holes having influence on the wider world. Both are as idiotic and as damaging as the another. And, 'normal' SHOULD mean anyone over the age of 60 should have absolutely no power or anything to do with politicy making. 

[placeholder]

8 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

That implies he also said lots of things about how Doge is saving money...a lot of which turn out to be true.

 

What do you have against saving money?

 

Does the world truly need more transgenderfried mices?

Who knows how much he's really saved? And what percentage of federal spending that amounts to? And who knows how much of his savings will actually come back to bite America in a certain place?

 

For instance, will slashing the NIH ultimately save America money or will it cost America a huge amount in the future? As others have pointed out, what management consultants typically do is advise companies to slash their payroll. At first, that does result in increased profits. But over times, when no new products are developed by the company, but rather by their competitors who have hired that displaced staff, it turns out that even in the medium run, it was a huge mistake. In the case of nations, already other countries are looking to snatch up scientists let go by Doge. All that investment in their training and some other country gets to benefit.

 

In another instance, Doge has slashed staffing in the IRS. So, it's going to make finding and prosecuting tax cheats a lot harder. What kind of insanity is that counsels firing the people who actually increase the government's income and pay for their salaries many times over? 

[placeholder]

7 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

No, because I don't give any credibility to a single thing you write. 

Why should anyone care what you believe when you don't back up your arguments with reasoning or facts?

[NoDisplayName]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

In another instance, Doge has slashed staffing in the IRS.

 

Balancing out Biden hiring 87,000 rapacious revenuers.

[still kicking]

7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Why should anyone care what you believe when you don't back up your arguments with reasoning or facts?

 

7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Why should anyone care what you believe when you don't back up your arguments with reasoning or facts?

He is too busy talking to Putin 

[placeholder]

2 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Balancing out Biden hiring 87,000 rapacious revenuers.

First off, far from all of those people were revenuers. Many were there to improve customer service and to upgrade systems which desperately need it. And the revenuers were hired to go after the wealthy not the middle class. And apparently, you believe that if there isn't the means to enforce the tax laws, the wealthy will gladly pay up what they owe the government anyway,

[riclag]

OP apologies ,I had a similar post and didn’t see yours! If I had noticed I wouldn’t of posted it.

Please forgive my intrusion!

 

More than 40% of fraudsters use stolen Social Security numbers , call the SSA try to  convince a agent to change Banking Information , these days are over!

 

Roll on time stamp 10:39

 

 

[NoDisplayName]

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

First off, far from all of those people were revenuers. Many were there to improve customer service and to upgrade systems which desperately need it. And the revenuers were hired to go after the wealthy not the middle class. And apparently, you believe that if there isn't the means to enforce the tax laws, the wealthy will gladly pay up what they owe the government anyway,

 

Then in that case, second off, far from all of those fired were revenuers.  Loads of deadwood, friend's cousins, nephews, and DEI tickboxes.

 

Not sure what I believe, so I'll leave it to you, Mr. Mindreader to tell me what I think.  Pretend I'm a democrat.

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, NoDisplayName said:

Wh

Then in that case, second off, far from all of those fired were revenuers.  Loads of deadwood, friend's cousins, nephews, and DEI tickboxes.

 

Not sure what I believe, so I'll leave it to you, Mr. Mindreader to tell me what to think.  Pretend I'm a democrat.

"Then in that case, second off, far from all of those fired were revenuers.  Loads of deadwood, friend's cousins, nephews, and DEI tickboxes."

What I particularly admire about this assertion is the wealth of evidence you didn't offer to support it. Not even a paucity. Just a nullity which means you got nothing.

 

As for mind reading, you characterized the revenuers as rapacious. Making things personal much? Rapacious means aggressively greedy or grasping? How are these agents aggresively greedy or grasping?   That you call these agents rapacious doesn't leave much room for doubt that you think that those who draw their attention are being unfairly targeted. And if the targeting is unfair, that must mean you believe that they are actually paying what they owe. If that weren't the case, why would it make sense to denigrate IRS agents.

[NoDisplayName]

17 minutes ago, placeholder said:

As for mind reading,

 

Welcome once again, O Great Sage...

 

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

He's said lots of things about how Doge is saving money.. Lot of which turn out to be false.

Please show us the falsifications.

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Musk tried to put a stop to the fact-checking of his claims by eliminating codes that could identify programs and expenditures allegedly cut. He got called out on that.

DOGE Reverses Move That Made Its Claims Nearly Impossible to Check

In early March, the group — which had been caught in a series of high-profile errors — began posting itemized claims about the savings it had achieved from canceling federal grants. Its website interface provided only minimal details about those grants but the site’s public source code included identification numbers, making it possible to glean more information from other official sources.

On March 5, however, the group removed those identifiers from the code, while also adding thousands more grants, making it very difficult to verify the figures provided. A White House official said the group had withheld identifying information “for security purposes.”

https://archive.ph/jCl5o

Please show us what's difficult to verify. What you have looked at yourself, not relying on some press agenda

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

No, because I don't give any credibility to a single thing you write. 

As I'm sure do many others here. I don't know why I even respond to the dude, he never answers a question. 

 

The Democrats, socialist, and America haters are becoming more and more frothingly irrational

 

 

[placeholder]

7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Please show us the falsifications.

Really? That's quite a bubble you live in:

 

Here Are The Biggest DOGE Hoaxes And Inaccuracies—As $8 Million Canceled ICE Contract Listed At $8 Billion

 As billionaire Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency scours federal agencies for cost savings, Musk and his team have repeatedly made baseless or false claims about government spending—or exaggerated the level of fraud and waste uncovered at some agencies.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/02/19/here-are-the-biggest-doge-hoaxes-and-inaccuracies-as-8-million-canceled-ice-contract-listed-at-8-billion/

 

DOGE shared its receipts — and some of them don’t match
“Everyone is very well-aware they’re repeating the wrong numbers,” said one manager at a company on DOGE’s list of cuts.

But among the 1,100-plus contracts purportedly canceled, POLITICO found:

• Contracts that had not yet been awarded
• Instances where a single pot of money is listed multiple times — tripling or quadrupling the amount of savings claimed
• Purchase agreements that have no record of being canceled, but were instead stripped of language related to diversity, equity and inclusion
• Contract savings identified by DOGE that do not match with records they refer to in the Federal Procurement Data System
• Contracts where the underlying document is for an entirely different contract

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/22/doge-data-errors-inconsistencies-00002576

 

Elon Musk makes false claim about billion-dollar National Park survey

Elon Musk claimed in a Fox News interview Thursday night that the Department of Government Efficiency, known as DOGE, frequently uncovers "billions" in government waste, citing a supposed $1 billion survey about National Parks as an example. 

CBS News found no evidence that the Department of the Interior spent or planned to spend that much on a survey or on any single contract. ..

 "For example, [a] simple survey that was literally a 10-question survey [that] you could do with SurveyMonkey, costs about $10,000, the government was being charged almost a billion dollars for that." 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-doge-false-claim-billion-dollar-national-park-survey/