MikeandDow Posted Saturday at 09:57 AM Posted Saturday at 09:57 AM 3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: It was just a minor earthquake ok minor! hate to see how Thailand handles a Major eathquake if they can not handle a minor one 1
richard_smith237 Posted Saturday at 10:02 AM Posted Saturday at 10:02 AM 5 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: ok minor! hate to see how Thailand handles a Major eathquake if they can not handle a minor one 'Thailand' handled this one remarkably well.... How many occupied buildings collapsed causing massive loss of life ??? Reportedly: 10 fatalities and 68 injuries... Though 85 individuals reported missing from the building collapse was tragic - but there are extenuating circumstances for that. Looking at this coldly for perspective - the rate has hardly exceeded the national road fatality daily rate (not a nice thing to say - but it adds a level of balance when responding to comments such as above) Also - if you are going to ask how Thailand 'handles Major Earthquake' then you should first understand the Geology - or Thailand or Rather Bangkok does not sit on a Major fault line / plate boundary. Ultimately, for Thailand (Bangkok) - it can't really get any bigger than yesterdays local magnitude level. 1
MikeandDow Posted Saturday at 10:24 AM Posted Saturday at 10:24 AM 3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Thailand handled this one remarkably well.... How many occupied buildings collapsed causing massive loss of life ??? The building under construction was tragic - but there are extenuating circumstances for that collapse. Also - if you are going to ask how Thailand 'handles Major Earthquake' then you should first understand the Geology - Thailand does not sit on a Major fault line. Ultimately, for Thailand (Bangkok) - it can't really get any bigger than yesterdays local magnitude level. I was replying to a stupid post disagree, I though Thailand handled this very badly, it is NOT how many building colllapes, but how it is Handled !! the emergency responce and evacuation which was zero !! has the PM addressed the people NO ! and the "extenuating circumstances for that collapse" we all know poor workmanship and coruption same as the other 700 cases of structural damage I know and understand the Geology of where i live and again you seem to narrow everything down it is Not eatrhquakes, it Natural Disasters Thailand does not have a clue NO emergency Plans 1
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted Saturday at 10:29 AM Popular Post Posted Saturday at 10:29 AM 1 minute ago, MikeandDow said: I was replying to a stupid post disagree, I though Thailand handled this very badly, it is NOT how many building colllapes, but how it is Handled !! the emergency responce and evacuation which was zero !! has the PM addressed the people NO ! and the "extenuating circumstances for that collapse" we all know poor workmanship and coruption same as the other 700 cases of structural damage I know and understand the Geology of where i live and again you seem to narrow everything down it is Not eatrhquakes, it Natural Disasters Thailand does not have a clue NO emergency Plans There was no need for an evacuation . You cannot get away from Earthquakes by jumping on a bus . There was no need for the people to go anywhere . No need for an evacuation 1 2 3
MikeandDow Posted Saturday at 10:42 AM Posted Saturday at 10:42 AM 8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: There was no need for an evacuation . You cannot get away from Earthquakes by jumping on a bus . There was no need for the people to go anywhere . No need for an evacuation oh ok !! why did they evacute the people from hospitals ect if they did not need to go anywhere YOU need to clear people or another word for it is evacute to safe areas away from buildings
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted Saturday at 10:45 AM Popular Post Posted Saturday at 10:45 AM 1 minute ago, MikeandDow said: oh ok !! why did they evacute the people from hospitals ect if they did not need to go anywhere YOU need to clear people or another word for it is evacute to safe areas away from buildings You was talking about evacuating Bangkok . My reply was that it wasn't necessary to evacuate Bangkok . Evacuating buildings is a different subject 1 2
MikeandDow Posted Saturday at 10:57 AM Posted Saturday at 10:57 AM 7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: You was talking about evacuating Bangkok . My reply was that it wasn't necessary to evacuate Bangkok . Evacuating buildings is a different subject Was i did i say evacuate Bangkok ?? I was talking about emergency responce and evacuation plans which the goverment does not have example how to evacuate a building use stairs not lifts go to the evacuation area ect ect
Nick Carter icp Posted Saturday at 11:04 AM Posted Saturday at 11:04 AM 5 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: Was i did i say evacuate Bangkok ?? I was talking about emergency responce and evacuation plans which the goverment does not have example how to evacuate a building use stairs not lifts go to the evacuation area ect ect People already know how to evacuate buildings , they don't need the Government to tell them how to do it 1 1
MikeandDow Posted Saturday at 11:30 AM Posted Saturday at 11:30 AM 18 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: People already know how to evacuate buildings , they don't need the Government to tell them how to do it well looking at the news and photos people dont know how to evacute a building they are all milling aroud the front entrance and sitting on the steps instead of going to a safe area away from the building have you never been in a fire drill !! and that is just a dangerous assumption "People already know how to evacuate buildings" and you need the goverment to mandate this
Nick Carter icp Posted Saturday at 11:38 AM Posted Saturday at 11:38 AM 6 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: well looking at the news and photos people dont know how to evacute a building they are all milling aroud the front entrance and sitting on the steps instead of going to a safe area away from the building have you never been in a fire drill !! and that is just a dangerous assumption "People already know how to evacuate buildings" and you need the goverment to mandate this So you are telling the Government to go and tell the people where to stand during an Earthquake ? Don't you worry about it, its not your problem 1 1
GammaGlobulin Posted Saturday at 11:45 AM Posted Saturday at 11:45 AM 5 hours ago, factual monk said: Life will move on... we humans will forget this by fortnight and 13 to 17 Apr... bkk will be dancing, boozing and playing with water... life has to go on... happiness and pain is part of life... it's life cycle... numerous civilizations have been wiped out from face of earth by natural disasters... but we will go on... 🙏 Already BLASTING....the same night as the quake. The music festivals in the area were still banging on drums, to beat the band. One thing will ALWAYS go on, around here: Banging on Drums, every day, and all night long. 1
MikeandDow Posted Saturday at 11:58 AM Posted Saturday at 11:58 AM 5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: So you are telling the Government to go and tell the people where to stand during an Earthquake ? Don't you worry about it, its not your problem you definitly never been in a fire drill in a building lets try and spell it out to you the goverment has standards and emergency protocols of what to do, these are mandated into law the company should train employees in the madated emergency protocols 1. Immediate Action Upon Alarm: Evacuate Immediately: Upon hearing the alarm, evacuate the building immediately in a calm and orderly manner. Do Not Panic: Remain calm and follow instructions from fire wardens or emergency personnel. Follow Evacuation Plan: Familiarize yourself with the building's evacuation plan and designated routes. Use Stairs: Always use the stairs for evacuation; do not use elevators. Close Doors: Close doors behind you to help contain the fire and smoke. Leave Belongings: Do not stop to collect personal belongings. Move Away from the Building: Once outside, move away from the building to a safe distance, preferably to the designated assembly point. 2. During Evacuation: Follow Evacuation Routes: Follow clearly marked evacuation routes to the nearest safe exit. Be Aware of Hazards: Be aware of potential hazards, such as smoke and falling debris. Assist Others: If possible, assist others, especially those who may need help evacuating. Stay Calm: Maintain a calm demeanor to ensure an orderly evacuation. Do Not Re-enter: Do not re-enter the building until instructed to do so by emergency responders. 3. At the Assembly Point: Report to Fire Warden: Report to your designated fire warden at the assembly point. Wait for Instructions: Wait for further instructions from emergency responders. Take Attendance: Fire wardens will take attendance to ensure everyone has evacuated. This is not only for fire but any emergency and normally carred out by law every 6 months Thailand does not have this
Caldera Posted Saturday at 01:15 PM Posted Saturday at 01:15 PM 1 hour ago, MikeandDow said: well looking at the news and photos people dont know how to evacute a building they are all milling aroud the front entrance and sitting on the steps instead of going to a safe area away from the building have you never been in a fire drill !! and that is just a dangerous assumption "People already know how to evacuate buildings" and you need the goverment to mandate this In fairness, in Central Bangkok it can be pretty difficult to get to a safe area away from ALL buildings. Because that's the main difference between your fire (drill) scenario and an earthquake - just staying away from YOUR building doesn't help. 1
MikeandDow Posted Saturday at 01:21 PM Posted Saturday at 01:21 PM 2 minutes ago, Caldera said: In fairness, in Central Bangkok it can be pretty difficult to get to a safe area away from ALL buildings. Because that's the main difference between your fire (drill) scenario and an earthquake - just staying away from YOUR building doesn't help. I was giving that as an example there is no diffence between a earthquake and fire drill evacuation there has to be safe areas or there should be !!
Unamerican Posted Saturday at 01:23 PM Posted Saturday at 01:23 PM 3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: but there are extenuating circumstances for that. What are these circumstances, please?
Unamerican Posted Saturday at 01:24 PM Posted Saturday at 01:24 PM 2 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: there has to be safe areas or there should be !! What country does provide such areas??
Popular Post Nick Carter icp Posted Saturday at 01:24 PM Popular Post Posted Saturday at 01:24 PM 1 minute ago, MikeandDow said: I was giving that as an example there is no diffence between a earthquake and fire drill evacuation there has to be safe areas or there should be !! There's a huge difference , You can move away from the burning building , you cannot move away from an earthquake 3
Unamerican Posted Saturday at 01:27 PM Posted Saturday at 01:27 PM 1 hour ago, MikeandDow said: Thailand does not have this So why are you telling us about it?
Unamerican Posted Saturday at 01:30 PM Posted Saturday at 01:30 PM 3 hours ago, MikeandDow said: the emergency responce and evacuation which was zero In what sense was the response zero? What should have been Eva hated, and to where??
MikeandDow Posted Saturday at 01:32 PM Posted Saturday at 01:32 PM Just now, Unamerican said: What country does provide such areas?? Most western countrys do have designated safe area Designate assembly areas or areas, outside your workplace, where employees should gather after evacuating. Make sure your assembly area has sufficient space to accommodate all of your employees. Exterior assembly areas, used when the building must be partially or completely evacuated, are typically located in parking lots or other open areas away from busy streets. Try and designate assembly areas so that you will be up-wind of your building from the most common or prevailing wind direction.
Unamerican Posted Saturday at 01:35 PM Posted Saturday at 01:35 PM Just now, MikeandDow said: Most western countrys do have designated safe area None of my many residences in Northern Europe have had any such provision (mainly because there is no excess space available in which to place them.
MikeandDow Posted Saturday at 01:35 PM Posted Saturday at 01:35 PM 6 minutes ago, Unamerican said: So why are you telling us about it? You need to do your own research if you want to learn rather than being a smart arse
still kicking Posted Saturday at 01:38 PM Posted Saturday at 01:38 PM 14 hours ago, redwood1 said: Yep Cheap Charlies are are adverse to the higher prices on the higher floors. What a nonsense remark 1
Unamerican Posted Saturday at 01:40 PM Posted Saturday at 01:40 PM 3 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: Make sure your assembly area has sufficient space to accommodate all of your employees. You show me anywhere in, for example, Central London where it is possible to find any such spaces! AND There are NO parking lots, or areas away from the (very few) streets! You seem to live in some fairyland of Open Spaces and cars! 1
Unamerican Posted Saturday at 01:42 PM Posted Saturday at 01:42 PM And most of Europe has no prevailing direction for its winds, does it?
Unamerican Posted Saturday at 01:45 PM Posted Saturday at 01:45 PM 1 hour ago, MikeandDow said: the goverment has standards and emergency protocols of what to do Which government might that be?
redwood1 Posted Saturday at 01:47 PM Posted Saturday at 01:47 PM 5 minutes ago, still kicking said: What a nonsense remark Errr.....It was ment to be nonsense.....Because the high floor phobia post......
Caldera Posted Saturday at 02:14 PM Posted Saturday at 02:14 PM 45 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: I was giving that as an example there is no diffence between a earthquake and fire drill evacuation there has to be safe areas or there should be !! I told you exactly what the difference is. My condo building's assembly area borders neighboring buildings. It would be relatively safe if there's a fire in our building. It wouldn't be safe at all if there's an earthquake, as those neighboring buildings are equally a threat. There are simply no safe open spaces anywhere near my condo building, and the same is true for many buildings in Central Bangkok I'd imagine. 1
MikeandDow Posted Saturday at 02:37 PM Posted Saturday at 02:37 PM 21 minutes ago, Caldera said: I told you exactly what the difference is. My condo building's assembly area borders neighboring buildings. It would be relatively safe if there's a fire in our building. It wouldn't be safe at all if there's an earthquake, as those neighboring buildings are equally a threat. There are simply no safe open spaces anywhere near my condo building, and the same is true for many buildings in Central Bangkok I'd imagine. well this seems to be the fault of the goverment
Mike_Hunt Posted Saturday at 05:52 PM Posted Saturday at 05:52 PM This was wild ride https://www.instagram.com/p/DHx8bm5PTyD/?igsh=OGM5M25vZGY5OG5x
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