Tariff pause - Trump IS an idiot !!

[TorquayFan]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

You better look in the mirror. Countries are lining up to give Trump what he wanted. He's a genius. The tariffs are only paused, and he is restructuring global trade. It was always the intention to negotiate different terms with each country.

 

 

 

Cam - I looked in the mirror, thought about it and made suggestions as I had previously posted. Genius ? Poppycock ! You think in a Trumpian dreamworld. None of what you wrote stands up to examination IMO.

[StandardIssue]

2 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

 

You don't get elected twice to be president of the US if you're stupid.

 

You don't know US history very well do you.

[TorquayFan]

JAS and Cam - for a laugh, here's a comment I just saw on the ADVFN website:-

 

"China will target US farmers until Trump squeals like a hormone-grown stuck pig.

They also just need to sell off a few bonds and he'll be forced to kiss their ass.

Terrible humiliation coming for the Sunbed King."

 

Yes indeed - genius ? LOL

[jas007]

35 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

My guess is that he got so much pressure from Wall Street, billionaires and other people who are losing a fortune that he was forced to put a pause on all this. The upside is that hopefully it will give the lowly US a chance to negotiate deals with many nations and avoid this extreme level of economic sabotage that Trump's been engaged in. 

For purposes of the West's Central Banking System, where fiat currencies are all debt based, the bond market always rules.  Unless, of course, a person is intent on destroying the US dollar and the Western world.  Either you know that, or you don't.  That's what's so surprising to me.  People seemed to think otherwise. People seemed to think Trump would willingly destroy the system, and with it the US dollar.  No way.  

 

 

 

 

[jas007]

13 minutes ago, TorquayFan said:

 

(Sophomoric - 'intellectually pretentious, overconfident, conceited, etc.')

 

JAS I commented before : "the mess Trump created will take a lot of clearing up - there will be many discussions before matters are repaired. Meantime, many will have suffered losses, some relationships will take years to repair and some may be irreparable. The unfortunate fact for Trump is that the US deficit is caused by citizens wanting to buy goods made abroad - that problem is still there!

 

Most would have agreed with measured and specific actions to address the deficit, with targeted tariffs for a few, interest rates and taxation - because, in the end, as USA manufacturing will take aeons to regenerate, citizens still want to buy and the USA still has a deficit."

 

JAS - I reject that accusation. ATB

 

I'm fairly certain I never wrote any of that matter you seem to think I wrote.  Can you point me to the specific post or posts?  

[Keep Right]

Trump's team and supporters justify abrupt tariff reversal: It's 'The Art of the Deal,' dummy

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-abrupt-tariff-reversal-explained-the-art-of-the-deal-2025-4

 

There are just so many "dummy" people complaining  about President Trump. These people just do not understand the art of the deal. Trump is making America great again.

[Mark Nothing]

The usa securities enforcement commissioner is Mark Uyeda, a lawyer appointed by president Joe Biden in 2022 to a top position in the SEC.

 

President Trump appointed him Chairman of the SEC in January 2025, when the prior chairman resigned.

 

In theory the SEC is an independent agency acting autonomously to oversee the smooth functioning of the securities markets to keep markets free of insider trading or manipulation.

 

This organization has been very quiet for decades.  Seems more like an insiders club then an actual watchdog.  I would guess the person appointing him to the top SEC chairman position would be immune from any oversight or investigation.

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, Screaming said:

No other President has been able to encourage other countries to drop their anti-competitive tariffs against the United States. 

Please name the countries that have signed a new trade deal with the US.

[Gecko123]

Despite how some are now trying to spin it, chaos and poor planning is not the same thing as playing three dimensional checkers.

[save the frogs]

16 hours ago, TorquayFan said:

Very droll Frogs !

 

Here's yet another theory I have just come across.

It's ALL about China ... even tariffs on other countries have to do with China ..

 

The theory is that Trump is trying to get every country to set anti-China provisions?

He explains why SEA countries have specifically high tariffs ... it's connected to China.

 

It's all rather complex stuff, and I don't think it's fair to say Trump is stupid. It's more complicated than most of us can understand.  

 

 

 

 

[save the frogs]

14 hours ago, TorquayFan said:

Yes indeed - genius ? LOL

 

But then again, some analysts are saying Trump's tariff strategy may backfire and make countries cozy up to China more ... and Make China Great Again. Ha ha ! So you may be right .. Trump may be an idiot after all. Ha ha !!

 

[save the frogs]

14 hours ago, TorquayFan said:

Yes indeed - genius ? LOL

Here, watch this. 

I have no idea if he's right, but he talks about China exports and how Trump is trying to throw a wrench in China's plans with the tariffs. Could be. I dunno. 

 

 

[JustinT]

12 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Here's yet another theory I have just come across.

It's ALL about China ... even tariffs on other countries have to do with China ..

 

The theory is that Trump is trying to get every country to set anti-China provisions?

He explains why SEA countries have specifically high tariffs ... it's connected to China.

 

Trump really didn't think much when he made these tariffs.  The formula he used was simple and childish--The trade deficit divided by the total exports.  Thats it.  There was no grand master plan to hurt China.  The only reason SEA got hit so hard is that the US has a big trade deficit with SEA countries.  Other countries with nothing to do with China such as poor Lesotho got hit just as hard just because of their trade deficit.

[save the frogs]

Anyway, I truly surrender.

There are so many theories out there that I don't know what to believe. 

I'm out. 

Good luck trying to figure out what's going on. 

 

[save the frogs]

15 hours ago, JustinT said:

There was no grand master plan to hurt China.

Well, there is another video that just popped into my feeds which is consistent with my previous post, which suggests Trump is trying to move countries away from China. And according to this, that is what is starting to happen. Even though we've had to sift through 10000 posts on this site about how the world hates Trump. 

 

The world abandons China in a spectacular display of loyalty to Donald Trump

 

[steven100]

14 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Here's yet another theory I have just come across.

It's ALL about China ... even tariffs on other countries have to do with China ..

 

The theory is that Trump is trying to get every country to set anti-China provisions?

He explains why SEA countries have specifically high tariffs ... it's connected to China.

 

It's all rather complex stuff, and I don't think it's fair to say Trump is stupid. It's more complicated than most of us can understand.  

 

 

 

 

what did poor Cambodia do to deserve a 49%  tariff  ?

[save the frogs]

 

Was that part of "The Plan" ?? He he ...

 

 

 

 

[Presnock]

On 4/10/2025 at 6:53 AM, steven100 said:

What a bunch of thief's the US gov admin are ....

 

This is nothing short of  Market Manipulation ...      ALL PLANNED NO DOUBT   !

 

*  check Trump's stock purchases recently and anyone else connected.  I'll bet they made millions shorting stocks ...

 

FFS  ....   absolute crooks    !!

Well normally, the SEC would be the driving force to begin an investigation but who named the new head? El Presidente himself and if this new head started an investigation, there would undoubtely be a newer head.  Oh so the Congress could do an investigation of their members and Trumps advisers?  don't forget, their investigation indicated that there was proof that Gaetz did commit statutory rape, used drugs regularly, trafficked women for sex, etcf - whatever happened to him? oH yeah he was nominated by Trump to be a department head but the Congress said they would provide all that proof to the public so...now he is just rich and doing his thing in Florida I guess.  Like I continue to say IMHO almost all elected or politically named persons in the govts of the world are exactly from the same mold, and most while claiming to be religious of some sort and honest are just lying!

[Presnock]

On 4/10/2025 at 10:18 AM, StandardIssue said:

 

His whole rationale for the Tariffs is flawed. No time to go into it but Tariffs based on trade deficits is just .. dumb. It makes no sense. I saw my retirement portfolio jump wildly about this last week. Insanity by a sophomore elected by a bunch of people who were wholly bamboozled.

really bamboozled too and I really fail to understand people.  Just look at his history (economically) lost a lot of businesses and yeah he didn't lose the money, his investors did.  Trump makes sure his lawyer protects him totally in every endeavor.  That is also why Trump hated to have his taxes paid on earnings for the public to see that the average citizen pays less taxes every year as he suffers losses or at least claims to suffer those losses so he doesn't have to pay taxes.  He basically gives away more than he gets in negotiations - look at Afghanistan - gave all to the Taliban and then left the pickings for Biden and inept or uprepared generals to withdrawal.  The NAFTA trade agreement between Canada and the US took several years to negotitate and now Trumpers seem to think that he can negotitate agreements between the US and 75 or more countries?  What a joke, he will probably give away all of the US half a state per country.  IMHO anyway

[save the frogs]

I haven't watched this yet ... came into my feed. He's talking about the Mar-a-Lago accords, which seems to be where the tariffs are heading.

Will try to watch it later and comment. If anyone else has a chance to watch it, pls let me know what you think.

 

 

[Gecko123]

Additional idiotic (and dishonest) elements of Trump's tariff policies:

 

1. foreign countries will pay the tariffs, not US consumers. This lie ignores the inflationary impact and reduced purchasing power of American consumers which tariffs will have.

 

2. even if manufacturing jobs could be brought back to the US overnight, the high priced American labor market will make US manufactured goods previously made overseas significantly more expensive, putting upward pressure on inflation.

 

3. the Trump administration completely failed to consider what impact the chaotic trade policy might have on demand for assets priced in dollars, particularly US treasurys. 

 

4. the Trump administration completely failed to consider the vulnerability of US brands to overseas and domestic boycotting

 

5. little consideration seems to have been given to how regressive tariff taxes are, As lower and middle income households spend a larger percentage of their income on goods and services, tariffs will impact them more than higher income households.