Devastation in Sumy: Dozens Killed as Russian Missiles Strike City Center

[beautifulthailand99]

12 minutes ago, Flyguy330 said:

I'm sort of a fan of George Galloway. I've admired his oratory ever since he took on and defeated the US Senate in a hearing on their own territory. His famous 'Two cheeks of the same ar5se' quote was delivered there.

George has a YouTube channel called MOATS (Mother Of All Talkshows) where he gives a daily monologue, and invites various talking heads on to discuss current affairs. He strenuously supports the Palestinian people, and criticizes and condemns Israel for its murderous campaign against them, especially the indiscriminate bombing of women and children and aid workers. I totally agree with him.

 

However, George is also a BIG supporter of Putin and Russia. He constantly claims that the Russian invasion was asked for and brought on by

NATO encroachment and US dirty tricks, and is therefore justified. Including the indiscriminate bombing of women and children and aid workers. This I find hypocritical and intolerable.

 

In his latest video on his MOATS channel he mentions this attack on Sumy, in a very cursory manner, and makes a slanted reference about a 'Ukrainian military parade' in the town that day. This is meant to justify the attack while he swiftly moves on to other issues.

 

I found that video of the actual attack on another website. What I can see is a city street with just a few pedestrians, then the explosions begin. There is no sign or evidence of any military parade at that area. Another poster here gave a link referencing some kind of military ceremony, no video evidence or location shown. Does this justify lobbing guided missiles onto a civilian street?

 

The video goes on to show the aftermath of the attack. There are plenty more videos on the web showing gruesome images of small children who were blown apart by the explosions. George just passed over this, made no reference at all to it.

 

This to me exposes George as a terrible hypocrite. I can't stand hypocrisy.

I can hear George saying 'This was all the result of Ukraines own behaviour', the same excuse we hear the Zionists use to justify their obliteration of Gaza. But George seems blind to the parallels in these two conflicts, and he hypocritically talks up one aggressors logic, while dismissing the same logic from the other. It's sickening and bare faced hypocrisy.

 

There is no justification for raining missiles on children, whether they be Palestinian or Ukrainian, and George Galloway should be ashamed of himself.

Good points but hell will freeze over before gorgeous George would apologise for anything. That said he is one of the best old school orators who can talk on the hoof we have had post WW2.

[steven100]

2 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Thanks for answering my question !

I still stand by what I said earlier,   Ukraine would have nothing to lose by flattening Moscow.  

When faced with total destruction,  you cut the head off the snake.  

[MicroB]

13 hours ago, Flyguy330 said:

I found that video of the actual attack on another website. What I can see is a city street with just a few pedestrians, then the explosions begin. There is no sign or evidence of any military parade at that area. Another poster here gave a link referencing some kind of military ceremony, no video evidence or location shown. Does this justify lobbing guided missiles onto a civilian street?

 

The video goes on to show the aftermath of the attack. There are plenty more videos on the web showing gruesome images of small children who were blown apart by the explosions. George just passed over this, made no reference at all to it.

 

The fottage is horrendous, particularly the screams from the burning trolley bus. I saw no uniforms among the dead. Some sick individuals on this forum trying to blame Ukraine for this. Some retribution; the Iskander-M unit in Kursk behind this atrocity, the 448th Missile Brigade, or at least their permanent deployment point, got hit.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/ukrainian-forces-strike-russian-brigade-behind-deadly-missile-attack-on-sumy-13349549

 

[MicroB]

13 hours ago, steven100 said:

I still stand by what I said earlier,   Ukraine would have nothing to lose by flattening Moscow.  

When faced with total destruction,  you cut the head off the snake.  

 

But its moot. The major weapons Ukraine did "possess" (they never actually had operational control), the SS-24s, were designed to hit the United States, not Moscow. If Ukraine had refused to give them up, they would have undoubtedly come into conflict with the United States, and become internationally isolated. Maintenance of the launchers and warheads themselves would have required a horrendoust expense; 10% of the US defence budget, $50 bn, is just on maintaining the nuclear weapon forces. The servicing facilties were located in Russia. The inherited weapons were old, and "lifed", with the first ones expiring in 1993, and the last in 2002.

 

A well balanced piece by Volodymyr Horbulin, the Head of the Council for Foreign and Security Policy, a Ukrainian NGO, and a literal rocket scientist, explaining why keeping the nuclear weapons was never a realistic option:

 

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/qviyu2-qb44k/92.pdf

 

 

[gargamon]

18 hours ago, Flyguy330 said:

I'm sort of a fan of George Galloway. I've admired his oratory ever since he took on and defeated the US Senate in a hearing on their own territory. His famous 'Two cheeks of the same ar5se' quote was delivered there.

George has a YouTube channel called MOATS (Mother Of All Talkshows) where he gives a daily monologue, and invites various talking heads on to discuss current affairs. He strenuously supports the Palestinian people, and criticizes and condemns Israel for its murderous campaign against them, especially the indiscriminate bombing of women and children and aid workers. I totally agree with him.

 

However, George is also a BIG supporter of Putin and Russia. He constantly claims that the Russian invasion was asked for and brought on by

NATO encroachment and US dirty tricks, and is therefore justified. Including the indiscriminate bombing of women and children and aid workers. This I find hypocritical and intolerable.

 

In his latest video on his MOATS channel he mentions this attack on Sumy, in a very cursory manner, and makes a slanted reference about a 'Ukrainian military parade' in the town th=at day. This is meant to justify the attack while he swiftly moves on to other issues.

 

I found that video of the actual attack on another website. What I can see is a city street with just a few pedestrians, then the explosions begin. There is no sign or evidence of any military parade at that area. Another poster here gave a link referencing some kind of military ceremony, no video evidence or location shown. Does this justify lobbing guided missiles onto a civilian street?

 

The video goes on to show the aftermath of the attack. There are plenty more videos on the web showing gruesome images of small children who were blown apart by the explosions. George just passed over this, made no reference at all to it.

 

This to me exposes George as a terrible hypocrite. I can't stand hypocrisy.

I can hear George saying 'This was all the result of Ukraines own behaviour', the same excuse we hear the Zionists use to justify their obliteration of Gaza. But George seems blind to the parallels in these two conflicts, and he hypocritically talks up one aggressors logic, while dismissing the same logic from the other. It's sickening and bare faced hypocrisy.

 

There is no justification for raining missiles on children, whether they be Palestinian or Ukrainian, and George Galloway should be ashamed of himself.

I can't believe you wasted all that time analyzing and critiquing some idiot's YouTube channel.

[Flyguy330]

GG isn't some random idiot. He's a British MP, has been in UK politics for 50 years, is a Labour activist of long standing with a very high profile in the UK labour movement. He has a huge following on social media. He's a regular speaker at political events, a TV commentator, and has debated at the Oxford Union (et al). He has influence beyond any random idiot. He's also a clever man.

Maybe you aren't familiar with him.

 

Unfortunately I think he's wrong on Ukraine.

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Flyguy330 said:

GG isn't some random idiot. He's a British MP, has been in UK politics for 50 years, is a Labour activist of long standing with a very high profile in the UK labour movement. He has a huge following on social media. He's a regular speaker at political events, a TV commentator, and has debated at the Oxford Union (et al). He has influence beyond any random idiot. He's also a clever man.

Maybe you aren't familiar with him.

 

Unfortunately I think he's wrong on Ukraine.

No he's a random idiot.  Workers Union MP for Rochdale, kicked out of the labour party back in 2003 and kicked out of Big Brother reality TV show. A useful idiot for RT Russia where he had his own show