Beware of the rottweiler in the room

[bannork]

There were sweet words for Europe from J.D. Vance yesterday but everyone knows the man will say anything. He once called Donald Trump “cultural heroin” and said he feared he could be “America’s Hitler.” 

According to David Maddox, those close to Trump say “JD is his mouthpiece. He says what Trump doesn’t want to say personally.”

The aggressive language used last month by Vance in briefings about Europe and the UK represents Trump’s view of Starmer and the UK government much more than Trump's praise for the “special man” Prime Minister Starmer with his “lovely accent”!

 Unfortunately for the UK, Vance is leading trade talks for the US with the UK.

What does Vance want?

He wants to impose tariffs on the UK over what he thinks is a two-tier UK legal system, a policing of social media with people jailed for the content of their tweets, and new laws coming in cracking down on social media.

Vance, Musk, etc actually believe Tommy Robinson is a political prisoner. They see online restrictions as a protectionist assault on the American tech sector.

Recently Vance criticised the conviction of Isabel Vaughan-Spruce for praying silently outside an abortion clinic.

However, the UK ambassador to the US, Lord Mandelson, wants a trade deal focused on the vital industries of artificial intelligence and biosciences.

He is convinced it makes sense for the US and UK,  the two countries with the most Nobel prize winners, the top two destinations for foreign investment and the top two for universities to connect in this manner.

Under his vision the partnership between the two could see the UK and US dominate in these spheres as closely connected allies for decades to come.

 But Vance may not play ball.

 He is no friend of the PM’s and the Mandelson vision of the renewed special relationship means little to him.

As one Trump insider warned: “No one appears prepared for the level of aggression the US is going to display. It will be their way or it will be no way at all.”

Starmer’s ambitions for a Trump trade deal have a big problem – JD Vance

 

[save the frogs]

i thought trump literally had a rottweiler and this thread was about his dog.

ha ha!

 

[MalcolmB]

MAGAs don’t think for themselves they just follow Trump.

They seem to have picked up an anti Ukraine pro Russia view especially since the Ukraine leaders White House visit. If Trump was pro Ukraine they would be also.

 

If Trump was anti tariff/tax they would be also.

 

Absolute sheeple population.

Vance is gutless slime. He knows what Trump is like but is too spineless to go against him, like most other republicans and business people.

Melania is no better either.

 

Only in America with its stupid people would someone like Trump be re-elected.

 

[FlorC]

11 hours ago, bannork said:

He wants to impose tariffs on the UK over what he thinks is a two-tier UK legal system, a policing of social media with people jailed for the content of their tweets, and new laws coming in cracking down on social media.

Vance, Musk, etc actually believe Tommy Robinson is a political prisoner. They see online restrictions as a protectionist assault on the American tech sector.

Recently Vance criticised the conviction of Isabel Vaughan-Spruce for praying silently outside an abortion clinic.

 

He is so right about that.

He was very right when he spoke to the Euro's.

[frank83628]

10 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

MAGAs don’t think for themselves they just follow Trump.

They seem to have picked up an anti Ukraine pro Russia view especially since the Ukraine leaders White House visit. If Trump was pro Ukraine they would be also.

 

If Trump was anti tariff/tax they would be also.

 

Absolute sheeple population.

Vance is gutless slime. He knows what Trump is like but is too spineless to go against him, like most other republicans and business people.

Melania is no better either.

 

Only in America with its stupid people would someone like Trump be re-elected.

 

Yes because its critical thinking anti trumpers that are posting hysterically here nonstop over every lie told them by their Democrat backing media.

[Hamus Yaigh]

30 minutes ago, FlorC said:

He was very right when he spoke to the Euro's.

Just in your opinion only. That doesn't make it right. Including laws like two-tier policing or freedom of speech differences as non-tariff barriers in U.S. trade policy could theoretically align with national interests by pressuring trading partners to align with U.S. values, potentially leveling the playing field where regulatory differences impact trade. For example, stricter speech laws abroad might suppress market-related expression, indirectly affecting U.S. firms. However, this risks infringing on other nations’ sovereignty, as it imposes U.S. standards on domestic legal systems, inviting retaliation and straining diplomatic ties. Tariffs traditionally address trade-specific issues—subsidies, labor costs, environmental standards—where economic impacts are clearer. Expanding tariffs to cover broader legal or cultural differences muddies the waters, likely escalating disputes beyond trade. Trade issues should dominate tariff rationale to maintain focus and avoid overreach.

[Hanaguma]

11 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

MAGAs don’t think for themselves they just follow Trump.

They seem to have picked up an anti Ukraine pro Russia view especially since the Ukraine leaders White House visit. If Trump was pro Ukraine they would be also.

 

If Trump was anti tariff/tax they would be also.

 

Absolute sheeple population.

Vance is gutless slime. He knows what Trump is like but is too spineless to go against him, like most other republicans and business people.

Melania is no better either.

 

Only in America with its stupid people would someone like Trump be re-elected.

 

This is an impressive rant, big fella.  Go easy, or the stomach acid you are generating will give you an ulcer. So like most on the left, you confuse your emotions with facts.  

[SunnyinBangrak]

14 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

MAGAs don’t think for themselves they just follow Trump.

They seem to have picked up an anti Ukraine pro Russia view especially since the Ukraine leaders White House visit. If Trump was pro Ukraine they would be also.

 

If Trump was anti tariff/tax they would be also.

 

Absolute sheeple population.

Vance is gutless slime. He knows what Trump is like but is too spineless to go against him, like most other republicans and business people.

Melania is no better either.

 

Only in America with its stupid people would someone like Trump be re-elected.

 

More we believe the exact opposite of what the vile cult that banned discussion of that laptop and all the anti Trump hoaxes say.

If a laptop denier told me it was sunny outside I wouldn't even need to look outside to know it's pitch black in the middle of the night. Thats what dishonestly censoring known fact for years does to a teams credibility. 

[still kicking]

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